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    Chesini Update

    The Chesini Innovation arrived today from France.

    I took a few phone pics (still better than the Ebay pics).

    The blue is deep/purplish and might be a bear to match easily for touch-ups. The panto fill is more gold than yellow (hard to capture in phone photos), so I think I'll nix the idea of yellow tape and saddle...maybe Jagwire gold cabling.

    There are some scratches and chips to fix. The chrome is good, but the paint on the drop-outs is quite beat...I'm thinking I will just strip them to chrome...???

    Thoughts?
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    swee-eet! What tube set? EL-OS?

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    Oh my. Very nice. More, please.
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    Yes EL-OS. Looking forward to seeing what all the fuss is about. That leaves only a MAX bike on this year's vintage radar (theoretically)...

    Quote Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
    swee-eet! What tube set? EL-OS?
    More to come...built up within a week or two, depending on cabling. I have Campy black on hand...would need to order either Jagwire white or gold. Could go silly with gold saddle recover (Avocet 02) and tape as well.

    Thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Poguemahone View Post
    Oh my. Very nice. More, please.
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    Very nice Mark.

    Personally I would try to keep as much as possible period correct. The idea of gold sounds cool, but when a certain part wasn't availbale back than I would hesitate to go for it.
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    Fantastic.

    EL-OS is really all that and more.

    Are you going Chorus 10 or 11 speed with this one?

    I would go subtle on the housing colors to keep the eye on those nice frame details.

    Man, I love these build threads.

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    Hey Mel... You should know by now that I won't use period correct bits...I think the closest thing I own is an '88 Chorus 7s gruppo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elev12k View Post
    Very nice Mark.

    Personally I would try to keep as much as possible period correct. The idea of gold sounds cool, but when a certain part wasn't availbale back than I would hesitate to go for it.
    Grady... I haven't made my final decision on the gruppo...but...if I go Chorus 10s, I will need to buy or trade for an Italian BB...the Chorus 11 is ready to go.

    As far as cabling...you guys don't like the gold...white or black then? White or black saddle/tape??

    Also, what do you guys think about the drop-outs...try to touch them up or strip what's left down to chrome???

    Quote Originally Posted by gomango View Post
    Fantastic.

    EL-OS is really all that and more.

    Are you going Chorus 10 or 11 speed with this one?

    I would go subtle on the housing colors to keep the eye on those nice frame details.

    Man, I love these build threads.
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    I'd strip her down to chrome so you can blind us.

    I really would go with black housing. The frame stays the show that way.

    I just checked and I have an extra Chorus 10 speed crank with Italian bottom bracket on the shelf.

    Definitely have the Chorus calipers as well if you need them.

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    Hey... I have the Record 10 crank, but I would prefer compact. I covered the brakes by buying some Centaur skeletons for another bike and swapping things around.

    I'm gonna post some pics tomorrow with a length of black, white, and gold cable in each...see what we can tell without full cabling and a build-up.

    If I go black cabling/tape/saddle and Chorus 11 then everything is here and ready to go. Coupla days for paint touch-ups...

    Quote Originally Posted by gomango View Post
    I'd strip her down to chrome so you can blind us.

    I really would go with black housing. The frame stays the show that way.

    I just checked and I have an extra Chorus 10 speed crank with Italian bottom bracket on the shelf.

    Definitely have the Chorus calipers as well if you need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buldogge View Post
    Hey... I have the Record 10 crank, but I would prefer compact. I covered the brakes by buying some Centaur skeletons for another bike and swapping things around.

    I'm gonna post some pics tomorrow with a length of black, white, and gold cable in each...see what we can tell without full cabling and a build-up.

    If I go black cabling/tape/saddle and Chorus 11 then everything is here and ready to go. Coupla days for paint touch-ups...
    Sounds like a plan.

    We'll be watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buldogge View Post
    Hey Mel... You should know by now that I won't use period correct bits...I think the closest thing I own is an '88 Chorus 7s gruppo.
    I like what you did with the Batavus, so good luck!
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    Thanx, I'm definitely looking forward to this build!

    Quote Originally Posted by SANTE POLLASTRI View Post
    wonderful,the first slope frame full brazed at the world,complimenti!
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    So...Has anyone ever seen an EL-OS frame with a 27.0 seatpost?

    I'm thinking of reaming the seat tube (although I'm always hesitant). In this case, with the double lugs at the top it seems pretty beefy, although the brazed joint at the very top (between tube and lug IDs) with the thin tubing could always be an issue. Of course, we're only talking about .1mm!

    A 27.0 Thomson slipped after tightening, a 27.0 vintage Gipiemme seems to hold, and a 27.2 Record Carbon doesn't want to go in past the first 1/2" or so.

    So...Today I guess I will ream the ST and face the BB shell, as well as search out touch-up paint...hopefully a close enough match to spray the Time CF fork.
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    So you didn't go with the chrome fork? (I'm Stien over at Serotta) Like it.

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    Nah, the seller agreed on a reduced price without the unmarked chrome fork. I'll find (or maybe even order) a Chesini fork eventually. The Time Equipe Pro Featherlight is a pretty nice CF fork (for 1").

    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan View Post
    So you didn't go with the chrome fork? (I'm Stien over at Serotta) Like it.
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    I'd say Honey Brooks saddle and matching wrap. White cables.,,,,BD
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    Hey Sante... Nice, but too old for the frame. Besides, I started hanging the Chorus 11s on it tonight. Kinda thinking I should go with an Athena alloy (2010) crank instead of the CF though...strangely, the CF looks "heavy" on this frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by SANTE POLLASTRI View Post
    you also can consider this all chesini pantographed super record group
    http://www.bdc-forum.it/market/showp...t/60231/cat/35
    the owner is a my friend from verona,he know very well the father of your innovation,mr cuccato,who worked for chesini.
    he made himself investment cast for slope lugs.
    There definitely won't be a Brooks on this bike...currently leaning towards black Fizik Aliante and matching tape. As far as cabling, the gold Jagwire has arrived, waiting for the white Campy set to arrive...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bikedued View Post
    I'd say Honey Brooks saddle and matching wrap. White cables.,,,,BD
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    Wrong bike for a Brooks.

    The Fizik is a great choice if it fits you, but you know how partial I am to Regals.

    I'd go for the alloy Athena, but it isn't that hard to swap out the cranks if the "look" isn't to your tastes.

    ps I saw you listed on the race list! Way to go.

    I am getting pumped about the series. Now all I have to do is learn how to ride a bike.

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    Yeah...I'll be there. Are you gonna let me tag along, assuming I don't hold you up??

    Hoping to do a hilly gravel 70 miler here in March and another 100 miler two weeks before the Almanzo (maybe not the best idea).

    The Aliante is an older plain black one. I also have an Avocet 40R and a Concor in black. Only extra Regal I have right now is a Girardi in white (some stains/spotting).

    Quote Originally Posted by gomango View Post
    Wrong bike for a Brooks.

    The Fizik is a great choice if it fits you, but you know how partial I am to Regals.

    I'd go for the alloy Athena, but it isn't that hard to swap out the cranks if the "look" isn't to your tastes.

    ps I saw you listed on the race list! Way to go.

    I am getting pumped about the series. Now all I have to do is learn how to ride a bike.
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    I thought this was C&V. What year is this frame made if you're putting carbon and Fizik on it? Nice frame, I guess I just don't get why it should "only" get modern parts, especially since it looks like a typical late eighties Italian frame. Whatever though, I am unsubscribed.,,,,BD


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    Ahh... A 92 model I see now... I really think carbon 11 speed is the wrong way to go, but what do I know...
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    It's a '92 and the first "modern" (production) sloping top tube frame. Campy 7/8s Chorus would be appropriate, but I have no desire for DT shifters. The Chorus 11 stuff is leftover after I "downgraded" parts on my gravel bike to alloy Athena 11.

    Fizik Aliantes have a relatively classic shape (much like Regals)...I choose saddles based on what works for my butt, not purely on aesthetics. Brooks work for me, but they are heavy and they don't fit the character of the bike. I have Swifts on my Meech and Spectrum, a Pro on my Sampson, an Imperial on my Raleigh, and a B17 on my Iron Horse...FWIW.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bikedued View Post
    I thought this was C&V. What year is this frame made if you're putting carbon and Fizik on it? Nice frame, I guess I just don't get why it should "only" get modern parts, especially since it looks like a typical late eighties Italian frame. Whatever though, I am unsubscribed.,,,,BD
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