Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-15-12, 12:23 PM   #1
jjhabbs 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jjhabbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes:
Posts: 869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
show'in off

Hey guys. Nobody else cares about my Vintage Schwinn World Voyageur. You may not also. But Im new here to this forum and I am excited to see some retro geeks like me. Its in excellent shape and I restored it to almost new.

Campy pedals, Ultra 6 suntour freewheel and Chain are not stock.

What does everyone think its worth?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg CIMG5933.jpg (99.0 KB, 53 views)
File Type: jpg CIMG5938.jpg (90.9 KB, 45 views)
File Type: jpg CIMG5935.jpg (90.5 KB, 50 views)
File Type: jpg CIMG5937.jpg (96.8 KB, 41 views)
File Type: jpg CIMG5932.jpg (95.2 KB, 59 views)
File Type: jpg CIMG5934.jpg (95.4 KB, 40 views)
jjhabbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:27 PM   #2
CardiacKid
SNARKY MEMBER
 
CardiacKid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: South Austin
Bikes:
Posts: 2,829
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Nice restore. You don't want to sell that bike after putting all that work into it, do you? I imagine it is worth more to you than anyone else out there.
CardiacKid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:29 PM   #3
jjhabbs 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jjhabbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes:
Posts: 869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
No..just curious. Im a slightly out of touch retro bike geek. Im sure its worth more to me. Someone offered me $1000 bucks..I think that is a little high but its worth more to me. I saw a couple at bike swaps and they wanted $600 and they are not in anywhere near as good of shape.
jjhabbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:30 PM   #4
Beach Comber
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Forked River, NJ
Bikes: 1973 Peugeot UE-8, 1985 Schwinn Voyageur, 2010 Trek 1.2, 2012 Bianchi Siempre
Posts: 715
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Very nice!! Original paint and decals?
Beach Comber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:36 PM   #5
jjhabbs 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jjhabbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes:
Posts: 869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yes. Purchased it 20 years ago from Budget bicyle in Madison Wi. for $150. Covered in dust I never got around to restoring it till last winter. I was totally surprised by its condition. Looks almost new except a couple of scratches.
jjhabbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:40 PM   #6
that_guy_zach
Senior Member
 
that_guy_zach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: omicron persei 8
Bikes:
Posts: 808
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
There great bikes, I have one in that color. Value seems to be around 600 on the high side.
that_guy_zach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:45 PM   #7
bikemanbob
Senior Member
 
bikemanbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Bikes: Bertoni Corsa Mondiale, Bridgestone T-700, Miyata 700 GT, Trek 600, Trek 560 Professional Series, Chrome Panasonic DX 2000, Peugeot PH12, Peugeot PX10, Schwinn World Voyageur, Schwinn Circuit, and Schwinn Voyageur
Posts: 859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Very nice bike! I have one, and I think it is great! I don't believe the saddle is original. I believe they came with a Fujita Seamless Saddle. Regardless, you have a very special bike.

I've seen the original documentation for my bike. I believe the MSRP was $250. The original owner paid $220. Depending on your market and demand, I would estimate between $400-600. Another Bike Forum member attempted to sell his restored World Voyageur in the Detroit area for many months without luck. If I recall right, he eventually sold it for in the low to mid $400. Location, condition, season, size, marketing, and luck determine the eventually value of the bike. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

bikemanbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:49 PM   #8
Beach Comber
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Forked River, NJ
Bikes: 1973 Peugeot UE-8, 1985 Schwinn Voyageur, 2010 Trek 1.2, 2012 Bianchi Siempre
Posts: 715
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhabbs View Post
Yes. Purchased it 20 years ago from Budget bicyle in Madison Wi. for $150. Covered in dust I never got around to restoring it till last winter. I was totally surprised by its condition. Looks almost new except a couple of scratches.
More than 20 years ago I think. Thats a 73?
Beach Comber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:50 PM   #9
mainstreetexile
rain dog
 
mainstreetexile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Diego
Bikes:
Posts: 796
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikemanbob View Post
Very nice bike! I have one, and I think it is great! I don't believe the saddle is original. I believe they came with a Fujita Seamless Saddle. Regardless, you have a very special bike.

I've seen the original documentation for my bike. I believe the MSRP was $250. The original owner paid $220. Depending on your market and demand, I would estimate between $400-600. Another Bike Forum member attempted to sell his restored World Voyageur in the Detroit area for many months without luck. If I recall right, he eventually sold it for in the low to mid $400. Location, condition, season, size, marketing, and luck determine the eventually value of the bike. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

Nice bikes! Minor tangent here, but do you know the make of that rear rack?
mainstreetexile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 12:51 PM   #10
skydog6653
Senior Member
 
skydog6653's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190634700232 This one was listed at least 3 times at $600 but never sold.
skydog6653 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 01:08 PM   #11
ColonelJLloyd 
Senior Member
 
ColonelJLloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Louisville
Bikes:
Posts: 8,286
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Gorgeous! That's in fantastic condition; best I've seen. The paint is very fragile as the frame is fully chromed. I can't believe yours is in such good condition. Try messing with your camera's focus settings.

The Ultra 6 freewheel is not original, though it could have been a new, shop supplied upgrade. The origial freewheel was a Schwinn Approved (Suntour) 14-32 (or 34t - I don't recall) 5 speed with the largest two cogs being skip-tooth.

I purchased my World Voyageur last year in Oak Park. I suspect mine was a custom order job as I know of no other 25" World Voyageurs. I'm currently building an original Shimano high flange/Araya 27" wheelset for it as it came to me with unoriginal wheels. Yours should have a serial number on the BB.

If Budget Bicycle were selling that bike today they'd ask $1,800 for it judging by their eBay auctions. Ha!

Great bike. Enjoy it!
__________________
Bikes on Flickr
I prefer email to private messages. You can contact me at justinhughes@me.com
ColonelJLloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 01:25 PM   #12
4Rings6Stars
Seņor Member
 
4Rings6Stars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Boston
Bikes: Lots of em.
Posts: 1,697
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Blasphemy around these parts, but that's prettier than any Paramount I've ever seen.
4Rings6Stars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 01:33 PM   #13
jjhabbs 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jjhabbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes:
Posts: 869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Beach comber..Yes..I purchased it used.

Colonel Lloyd. I have the original Freewheel. HUGE..wanted a gearing that would work for me. I do like to ride it.

Mainstreet. I believe that the saddle I have is original. So are the wheels. Just shined the living daylights out of the rims and hubs with Mothers Chrome polish. Then I relaced them with DT Straight G. spokes.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg CIMG5940.jpg (95.3 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg CIMG5939.jpg (97.2 KB, 18 views)
jjhabbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 01:35 PM   #14
jjhabbs 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jjhabbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes:
Posts: 869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I love the activity of this forum! I cant believe so many responses so quickly. Making my sick day at home more fun. Im inspired to put my Paramount on here and see what you guys can tell me about it.
jjhabbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 01:37 PM   #15
jjhabbs 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jjhabbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes:
Posts: 869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Colonal.. did you get yours at Barnards ? They used to be a client of mine.
jjhabbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 01:55 PM   #16
ColonelJLloyd 
Senior Member
 
ColonelJLloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Louisville
Bikes:
Posts: 8,286
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhabbs View Post
Colonal.. did you get yours at Barnards ? They used to be a client of mine.
I bought it from the son of the original owner. He had recently passed away. He was an Austrian immigrant and bought it "in the early 70s" as his son told me. I'm in Louisville and drove five hours to collect it before the eBay auction even ended. I picked it up a couple of blocks from Frank Lloyd Wright's house. Here's the thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Rings6Stars View Post
Blasphemy around these parts, but that's prettier than any Paramount I've ever seen.
+1 Paramounts were made for decades and decades. The World Voyageur was available only in 1973 and was the first Japanese produced Schwinn. The WV was essentially Japan saying, "Look what we can build and the price for which we can build it."
__________________
Bikes on Flickr
I prefer email to private messages. You can contact me at justinhughes@me.com
ColonelJLloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 01:56 PM   #17
bikemanbob
Senior Member
 
bikemanbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Bikes: Bertoni Corsa Mondiale, Bridgestone T-700, Miyata 700 GT, Trek 600, Trek 560 Professional Series, Chrome Panasonic DX 2000, Peugeot PH12, Peugeot PX10, Schwinn World Voyageur, Schwinn Circuit, and Schwinn Voyageur
Posts: 859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mainstreetexile View Post
Nice bikes! Minor tangent here, but do you know the make of that rear rack?
Sorry, I do not know. The original owner told me, but I didn't pay attention. It does have a sticker "made in England."
bikemanbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 02:00 PM   #18
jjhabbs 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jjhabbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes:
Posts: 869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Honestly. I never saw a 25 inch WV ever. Ive been around a while too. That is a very rare bicycle! My father used to live in the frank lloyd wright area. He didnt have a FLW house but close by. The neighborhood changes every two blocks in that area.
jjhabbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 02:08 PM   #19
ColonelJLloyd 
Senior Member
 
ColonelJLloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Louisville
Bikes:
Posts: 8,286
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhabbs View Post
Honestly. I never saw a 25 inch WV ever. Ive been around a while too. That is a very rare bicycle! My father used to live in the frank lloyd wright area. He didnt have a FLW house but close by. The neighborhood changes every two blocks in that area.
Indeed. There is a rough neighborhood between Oak Park and Chicago proper. I believe my WV was probably a custom order. I don't believe the paint is the exact shade of orange as the 21" or 23" models I've seen. I suspect it is likely a Voyageur II frameset perhaps painted in the Chicago factory, maybe for a Schwinn employee or the like. It has no serial number.
__________________
Bikes on Flickr
I prefer email to private messages. You can contact me at justinhughes@me.com
ColonelJLloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 02:14 PM   #20
auchencrow 
Senior Member
 
auchencrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Detroit
Bikes:
Posts: 10,330
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikemanbob View Post
....Another Bike Forum member attempted to sell his restored World Voyageur in the Detroit area for many months without luck. If I recall right, he eventually sold it for in the low to mid $400. Location, condition, season, size, marketing, and luck determine the eventually value of the bike. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay.
I guess I am the other Bike Forum member bikemanbob alluded to, and this was the bike. It was incredibly clean, but I still had a hell of a time getting $400 for it around here...
It sat for a long time as shown, reposting again and again until someone (obviously not from around here) drove 300 miles to get it.




__________________
- Auchen

Last edited by auchencrow; 02-15-12 at 02:44 PM.
auchencrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 02:30 PM   #21
mkeller234
Rustbelt Rider
 
mkeller234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Canton, OH
Bikes: 1990 Trek 1420 - 1978 Raleigh Professional - 1973 Schwinn Collegiate - 1974 Schwinn Suburban
Posts: 8,295
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
We definitely do care about a great bike like that. Don't sell that one! Better yet, sell it to me!
__________________
|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| ||
|......GO.BROWNS........| ||'|";, ___.
|_..._..._______===|=||_|__|..., ] -
"(@)'(@)"""''"**|(@)(@)*****''(@)
mkeller234 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 03:22 PM   #22
bikemanbob
Senior Member
 
bikemanbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Bikes: Bertoni Corsa Mondiale, Bridgestone T-700, Miyata 700 GT, Trek 600, Trek 560 Professional Series, Chrome Panasonic DX 2000, Peugeot PH12, Peugeot PX10, Schwinn World Voyageur, Schwinn Circuit, and Schwinn Voyageur
Posts: 859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
I guess I am the other Bike Forum member bikemanbob alluded to, and this was the bike. It was incredibly clean, but I still had a hell of a time getting $400 for it around here...
It sat for a long time as shown, reposting again and again until someone (obviously not from around here) drove 300 miles to get it.
You are correct!

Before Auchen sold the bike, I saw it. It was incredibly clean and nice!
bikemanbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 05:08 PM   #23
jbkirby
Senior Member
 
jbkirby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dothan, AL
Bikes: 1971 Raleigh International; 1972 Raleigh International; 1971 Schwinn Sports Tourer
Posts: 264
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
jjhabbs, your bike is gorgeous! So much so, that I am holding you responsible for the drool on my keyboard. Now to compensate for my anguish, just send that beautiful machine to me!
jbkirby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 05:26 PM   #24
wrk101
DRF aka Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The NC Mountains
Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue, 87 Cimarron, 14 frame school custom, 73 Paramount
Posts: 19,976
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
+1 Add me to the list of current 1973 World Voyageur owners. I seem to have a budding collection of Panasonic built Schwinns right now, including the 1973 WV, two 1987 Prologues, and a 1992 Paramount Series 5. I also had a 1991 Paramount Series 3, but it has moved on to another home.

I really don't care for the Giant built Schwinns, but I really like the Panasonic built ones.
wrk101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-12, 05:39 PM   #25
jjhabbs 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jjhabbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes:
Posts: 869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
saw a prologue today. it was red and white fade. Full dura ace. the kid that got it paid 100 bucks for it and its almost mint! He said he just wanted a beater road bike and came across it..I educated him quickly on what he had.
jjhabbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:44 PM.