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Old 02-16-12, 03:06 PM   #1
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New Campagnolo Shifters

I was never ecstatic about the older ergo shifter design. I like to ride on the hoods a lot. The new shifters look really comfy and are insanely inexpensive ($130 new on ribble for centaur). They are no longer rebuildable and are limited to shifting up 3 gears.

Does anyone have experience with the new design? Are the trade offs worth it ?
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I was never ecstatic about the older ergo shifter design. I like to ride on the hoods a lot. The new shifters look really comfy and are insanely inexpensive ($130 new on ribble for centaur). They are no longer rebuildable and are limited to shifting up 3 gears.

Does anyone have experience with the new design? Are the trade offs worth it ?
$130?? Cheap??!...Ergo??? May I remind you that this is the cheapskate land C&V forum
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I'm new to integrated shifting, but have recently read up on Shimergo setups. Last week I ordered Athena 11 alloy Ergos from Ribble ($154) to use with a Shimano 9 speed drivetrain. I'm going to go ahead and order Veloce 10 alloy Ergos ($96) for a bike I have with a Shimano 8 speed drivetrain. It's insane how inexpensive the UK retailers can sell these things. I inquired with my LBS and the guy just had to shake his head. I bought the Athena 11 Ergos with cables, shipped to my door for less than his wholesale cost from his distributor without cables and before freight.

So, no, I don't have experience with them yet, but that should change in the coming days and weeks.



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Haha. Considering a set of used STI shifters goes for about $100, $130 is a really good new price.
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Thanks for posting this. One thing I found is that I'm not a huge fan of the feel of the plastic shifter on the Veloce shifters. Feels flimsy and kinda flops around. Thanks for the link, I might order some Centaur Carbon ones for $140.
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Wait a second, they are Shimano STI compatible????
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I have a slightly older 10sp Veloce with an alloy shift lever that I'm using with a 8 speed Shimano cassette. I prefer the hoods to the STI's that I've tried (600 6400). I really like the mechanism and feel, and I'm starting to look for the rest of the Veloce group (used, hopefully).
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Wait a second, they are Shimano STI compatible????
In certain combinations, yes.
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In certain combinations, yes.
Is there a listing of those combinations, because that'd be good to know. Any triple compatible?
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Thanks for posting this. One thing I found is that I'm not a huge fan of the feel of the plastic shifter on the Veloce shifters. Feels flimsy and kinda flops around.
You're currently using the Veloce Ergos like those pictured above? Is it just that you don't care for the feeling of the plastic shifter or are you genuinely concerned it may break on you? Thanks!
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The current veloce shifters have the best and most comfortable hoods I've experienced. They are light, significantly lighter than 105 shifters even. They are cheaply built. The plastic shift lever feels flimsy. The levers jiggle a bit and pretty much feel on par with a $20 tektro. Shifting is on the clunky side compared to shimano. It's pretty fast though. There is a reason shimano levers are more expensive. I can't say anything about the durability thus far. The rest of the group is actually pretty nice and well finished though.
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The current veloce shifters have the best and most comfortable hoods I've experienced. They are light, significantly lighter than 105 shifters even. They are cheaply built. The plastic shift lever feels flimsy. The levers jiggle a bit and pretty much feel on par with a $20 tektro. Shifting is on the clunky side compared to shimano. It's pretty fast though. There is a reason shimano levers are more expensive. I can't say anything about the durability thus far. The rest of the group is actually pretty nice and well finished though.
Agreed with all of the above. It just feels really flimsy and I'm not crazy about that. Although I suppose my old Ultegra has the same type of plastic shifters, but they feel less flimsy since they can only move in one direction. I actually just ordered the Centaur ones from Ribble. They are having a 25% off sale and all shifters are really cheap. I almost went for the 2010 Chorus 10 speeds on there, but don't want to spend $200.
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Yeah, I would really really like to have some chorus 10 speed shifters, it would make the bike feel much more high end. Are they compatible with veloce derailleurs? Hmm...
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I think the silver levers look good on your bike, though, and Veloce is the only new 10 speed option in silver, right?
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CJL- I hope you will let us know how the Athena shifters work with the 9 speed. I like brifters but would also like cables that don't interfere with a front bag. Also prefer to stay with 9 speed. I've ordered tires from Ribble, no problems, fast shipping.
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I think the silver levers look good on your bike, though, and Veloce is the only new 10 speed option in silver, right?
athena 11 speed... But yeah, they don't look bad and I don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with them functionally, if they prove to be durable and work consistently I'll get past the build quality. I've only ridden the bike once and the axle kept slipping in the dropout, and I was kinda sick, so I can't comment much about how well everything works at this point. Shifting feels like it has a lot of resistance both up and down compared to shimano, it might be because people complained about the older veloce shifters saying they had no feel.
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I didn't realize the new levers had a plastic lever. I have 9s and 10s veloce levers and they feel like solid, high quality products. Has quality of this line gone down?
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I like the new Veloce just fine, having bought an entire group from Ribbles.
I'm running them straight 10-sp with Campy 10-sp wheels and cassette.
They have more play in them than you'd expect from a new Campy product,
but as many steps down the pecking order they are, and for the price,
I was expecting them to work, and they do, and they do a good job.

I've sometimes had problems with Shimanos when my fingers get numb, as far as shifting.
Generally due to cold, but I end up fumbling. Campy system works better for me in that regard.

I kind of like the way I can still feel my way up the cogs, and after years of 8-sp Ergos,
I fully expect to learn just the right amount of push on the thumb lever. If I had it to
do again, I'd get the newer Centaur, but I was buying an entire group at the time, and price mattered.
(bigbossman and Old Fat Guy were 100% correct, as usual) Like the Colonel, I prefer silver.
The tool needed for the crankset was irritating, but this thread is about shifters.

I also have an NOS Centaur group, 10-sp, the last of the "older" Ergos. Haven't ridden them yet.
I figure they'll be very much like the other old Ergos, but with whatever refinements Campy decided on.
Of course, they cost 50% more than the 10-sp Veloce. Go figure, but I'd get more if I could.

I've always liked the way I could feel my way around the cassette with Campy shifters.
The new EPS shifters from Campy retain the "feel" of the shifter, and the clicking noise.
I think That's kind of cool, but unless I win the lottery, I'll be pulling cable with most everyone else.

As far as the 8-sp Ergos (I've never had 9sp), I've had Avanti, Mirage, Veloce, Athena, Chorus and Record.
The Chorus are my favorite, but the Record are smoother. It depends on the spring youth, I'd say.
I do have a nearly NOS set of Mirage, and I find them solid and dependable and like them for touring.

As far as "no longer rebuildable," I swear I saw diagrams on Branford Bike's web site of the new ones.
I was looking at the bike of the month and started cruising through their site. I'll have to ask them.
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I like the new Veloce just fine, having bought an entire group from Ribbles.
I'm running them straight 10-sp with Campy 10-sp wheels and cassette.
They have more play in them than you'd expect from a new Campy product,
but as many steps down the pecking order they are, and for the price,
I was expecting them to work, and they do, and they do a good job.

I've sometimes had problems with Shimanos when my fingers get numb, as far as shifting.
Generally due to cold, but I end up fumbling. Campy system works better for me in that regard.

I kind of like the way I can still feel my way up the cogs, and after years of 8-sp Ergos,
I fully expect to learn just the right amount of push on the thumb lever. If I had it to
do again, I'd get the newer Centaur, but I was buying an entire group at the time, and price mattered.
(bigbossman and Old Fat Guy were 100% correct, as usual) Like the Colonel, I prefer silver.
The tool needed for the crankset was irritating, but this thread is about shifters.

I also have an NOS Centaur group, 10-sp, the last of the "older" Ergos. Haven't ridden them yet.
I figure they'll be very much like the other old Ergos, but with whatever refinements Campy decided on.
Of course, they cost 50% more than the 10-sp Veloce. Go figure, but I'd get more if I could.

I've always liked the way I could feel my way around the cassette with Campy shifters.
The new EPS shifters from Campy retain the "feel" of the shifter, and the clicking noise.
I think That's kind of cool, but unless I win the lottery, I'll be pulling cable with most everyone else.

As far as the 8-sp Ergos (I've never had 9sp), I've had Avanti, Mirage, Veloce, Athena, Chorus and Record.
The Chorus are my favorite, but the Record are smoother. It depends on the spring youth, I'd say.
I do have a nearly NOS set of Mirage, and I find them solid and dependable and like them for touring.

As far as "no longer rebuildable," I swear I saw diagrams on Branford Bike's web site of the new ones.
I was looking at the bike of the month and started cruising through their site. I'll have to ask them.
I think you will love the Centaur 10...

And don't worry about winning the lottery, the EPS pricing was just released and it's a LOT cheaper than I expected.

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