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    Rubber grommet for internal cables ???

    I found an old thread on this but I'm looking to see if anybody has any fresh ideas...

    I am looking for rubber grommets for the internal cables on my Miele frame..

    Here's dome pics..

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    I had a bike like that once and I wondered what I would do if I lost that piece. I figure a brake noodle and some rubber washers might work. Good luck, I'm not envying that project
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    Quote Originally Posted by triplebutted View Post
    I had a bike like that once and I wondered what I would do if I lost that piece. I figure a brake noodle and some rubber washers might work. Good luck, I'm not envying that project
    Thanks =)

    I was thinking of getting an aluminum tube slightly larger than the the top tube (just the right size so the top tube could slide into it) then cutting ovals out of it slightly larger than the oval hole in the frame (this way the oval would have the correct rounding to it to fit the tube)

    then I could drill an angle hole in them JUST the size of cable housing, polish them both up, and glue them onto the top tube over those holes

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    That's a brilliant idea!! But make it slightly temporary. You never know when you'll come up to a frame in someones garbage that has the exact piece you are looking for!
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    Quote Originally Posted by triplebutted View Post
    That's a brilliant idea!! But make it slightly temporary. You never know when you'll come up to a frame in someones garbage that has the exact piece you are looking for!
    Thanks!

    True... I will glue them on with silicone because that will hold well and come off easily with a little elbow grease

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    IIRC the originals were a molded rubber bit (Gipiemme made?) that snapped into the oval hole. I suppose you could find a round rubber grommet and squish it to fit the oval. The center hole would become more of a slit than a hole, but might grip the housing OK or you could help the grip with some silicone glue. Your idea of fabricating oval AL plates sounds slicker, but any angle you drill thu really thin stock won't offer much "angled" surface for the housing. I wonder if you could take it farther (and more complicated) by bending a piece of it inward to create an angled tab, drill a hole in that tab for a step-down ferrule...glue everything in place with silicone sealant...if I keep thinking I might have to draw a diagram!

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    I'll bet some machinist here could make you one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
    IIRC the originals were a molded rubber bit (Gipiemme made?) that snapped into the oval hole. I suppose you could find a round rubber grommet and squish it to fit the oval. The center hole would become more of a slit than a hole, but might grip the housing OK or you could help the grip with some silicone glue. Your idea of fabricating oval AL plates sounds slicker, but any angle you drill thu really thin stock won't offer much "angled" surface for the housing. I wonder if you could take it farther (and more complicated) by bending a piece of it inward to create an angled tab, drill a hole in that tab for a step-down ferrule...glue everything in place with silicone sealant...if I keep thinking I might have to draw a diagram!
    thanks! well.. what I think I might do it drill a hole a little smaller then hear up... I mean REALLY heat up a piece of drill rod, insert it, and then bend it down.. this will form a bit of an angled slot in the aluminum and the hot drill rod will open up the hole a bit... I may do it out of REALLY thin aluminum or just 2" copper pipe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutter View Post
    Thanks =)

    I was thinking of getting an aluminum tube slightly larger than the the top tube (just the right size so the top tube could slide into it) then cutting ovals out of it slightly larger than the oval hole in the frame (this way the oval would have the correct rounding to it to fit the tube)

    then I could drill an angle hole in them JUST the size of cable housing, polish them both up, and glue them onto the top tube over those holes
    Find a the same diameter of PVC pipe. Cut 2 pcs about 2mm larger in the same oval shape.
    Find a long ferrule, cut off the end so both ends are open, that's your guide.
    Hold the 2 PVC ovals together and drill a hole through both at the angle you want, the size of the ferrule.
    Continue to hold the two PVC ovals together, and slide in the ferrule piece. Adjust for depth.
    Now, remove the "top" piece of PVC oval, and paint the top and edges flat black.
    Keep the ferrule inserted at an angle into the "bottom" piece of PVC oval.
    Slide it out just enough to super-glue around the ferrule, and slide it back in. Let it dry.
    Now, turn the assembly sideways and insert it into the hole.
    Turn it sideways again, so the "bottom" piece of PVC fills the hole and is aligned with it,
    with the ferrule sticking out at the angle you want (I assume rearward).
    Slide the top piece back down over the ferrule, and super-glue it down, over the hole and aligned with it.
    (Put your glue between the two PVC pieces).

    You now should have an oval piece that looks decent, holds the cable the way you want, and won't go anywhere.

    Now, if you wanted a cable "stop" and not a guide, you'd have to alter what you do with the PVC.
    Routing the cable through there is another problem, but you didn't ask about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
    Find a the same diameter of PVC pipe. Cut 2 pcs about 2mm larger in the same oval shape.
    Find a long ferrule, cut off the end so both ends are open, that's your guide.
    Hold the 2 PVC ovals together and drill a hole through both at the angle you want, the size of the ferrule.
    Continue to hold the two PVC ovals together, and slide in the ferrule piece. Adjust for depth.
    Now, remove the "top" piece of PVC oval, and paint the top and edges flat black.
    Keep the ferrule inserted at an angle into the "bottom" piece of PVC oval.
    Slide it out just enough to super-glue around the ferrule, and slide it back in. Let it dry.
    Now, turn the assembly sideways and insert it into the hole.
    Turn it sideways again, so the "bottom" piece of PVC fills the hole and is aligned with it,
    with the ferrule sticking out at the angle you want (I assume rearward).
    Slide the top piece back down over the ferrule, and super-glue it down, over the hole and aligned with it.
    (Put your glue between the two PVC pieces).

    You now should have an oval piece that looks decent, holds the cable the way you want, and won't go anywhere.

    Now, if you wanted a cable "stop" and not a guide, you'd have to alter what you do with the PVC.
    Routing the cable through there is another problem, but you didn't ask about that.
    Wow! Thanks!

    I'm going to try and get to this soon and post my results, Thanks!

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    Instead of going over the hole, why not maybe get something pliable like a short legnth of rubber or vinyl hosing in black, just a bit longer than the oval holes on the tup tube, drill or punch a hole on it so the cable casing could go througn, cut/split it along its legnth and remove a strip of material so you can fold or scroll it and fit it into the TT and then let it open up inside to go against the inner wall of the TT so you will end up covering the open oval hole from the inside. You might have to experiment using different legnths, thickness of tubing for each hole. installing and removing he section of hose from insde the TT should be easy enough by ising a long nosed pliers or hemostats. Just be careful the pieces do not get away from you too much and get out of reach in case you do have to pull them out. You can also add a layer of tubing slightly thicker than the wall of the top tube. Cut it the same size ans shape of the pval hole then glue it to the to surface of the split tube. It will act as a locating piece that will keep the tubing from sliding around in the TT once you install it insode the tube
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    Will the Cinelli cable hole plugs work?
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    Yeah, those show up on Ebay with regularity. Cheap, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buldogge View Post
    Will the Cinelli cable hole plugs work?

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    I think I have some of the Cinelli ones.. Ill take a look.
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    I have some Cinelli ones if needed...
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    I had to google to find a pic of what you're talking about...I think these are what I thought were Gipiemme doohickies, guess they are Cinelli and not so exotic, they call them frame grommets. It's what I'd use for the Miele.
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    Urbane has these in stock if you don't want to go the eBay route. At least, they did a couple of years ago, a big bag of them, I doubt they've sold them all since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
    Urbane has these in stock if you don't want to go the eBay route. At least, they did a couple of years ago, a big bag of them, I doubt they've sold them all since then.

    Thanks everybody!!

    I found these on ebay:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cinelli-Cable-Guides-White-New-Free-Worldwide-Shipping-/220956501858?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337208a762


    BUT thanks for the tip!! I was actually planning on going to Urbane this week to get some chrome forks for that exact frame!!

    Thanks!! (do you remember how much they were??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutter View Post
    BUT thanks for the tip!! I was actually planning on going to Urbane this week to get some chrome forks for that exact frame!!

    Thanks!! (do you remember how much they were??)
    No, I cannot recall how much they were. I was down there today and they have switched a lot of things around, they had a lot of bins of stuff on clearance so you should probably call to be sure they have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
    No, I cannot recall how much they were. I was down there today and they have switched a lot of things around, they had a lot of bins of stuff on clearance so you should probably call to be sure they have them.
    Thanks! Yea, they always have that clearance stuff now... I'll just pop in anyways... I have a couple hours to kill after work..

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