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    Senior Member Lea_Kim's Avatar
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    OK, so voila some pictures of my 1992(?) Marinoni. I still haven't took time to clean it. It's the first time I see the front derailleur attached like this. I forgot to take a picture of the crank and the rear derailleur. Are there "rules" on parts to take picture of when you want to show a bike?

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    Very similar paint and decal scheme to mine, just different colours (same head tube decal, same panto on the fork). SL bike with a full 105 set, looks good.

    The front derailleur attachment - braze-on rather than clamp - is fairly common, usually on nicer bikes (especially Italian ones), certainly throughout the 80s and 90s at least. I'm no expert on the history of that feature, but have seen quite a few. I don't know what advantage it provides, really, except saving possible paint damage on the tube from a clamp...

    Any serial number on this one? I still have to check on mine...

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    My serial number is 00393. But the guy who sold me the bike said he bought it new in 1992. So if the first digit realy is the year it was made, this bike was made in 1990.

    My 3rd Marinoni's serial no. is 60149. I guess it means it's a 2006 because it's a more recent model with a full Campagnolo Athena set and power shifters...

    I'm a bit shy to do so, but I'll ask more infos to Simone at Marinoni to know the full story of those bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lea_Kim View Post
    My serial number is 00393.
    Close to mine. Hence, perhaps, the similarity: 0285 for the big SP bike with the same decals/panto, similar paint.

    108 bikes younger, maybe? Do you know whether they simply count(ed) up from 0/1 after the digit representing the year?

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    Sorry mikemowbz, I have no idea if the are starting from 0 or 1 for their serial, but from what I understand, some serial have 3 digits after the year and others have 4 because some years they made more then a thousand bicycle so they were adding an additional 0... I now have 4 Marinoni and the 3 that have a complete serial number all have 4 digits after the year number (so a sequence of 5 numbers). But...

    ?195 - 1980? - The all white at the beginning of this tread - Dura Ace, 20 pounds
    00393 - 1990 - White green and blue - Shimano 105, 23 pounds
    36131 - 2003 - Yellow and dark green - Shimano 105, 23 pounds (too big for me and I need cash so this one is going back on the market)
    60149 - 2006 - Dark green (kaki?) - Campagnolo Athena, 23 pounds

    I don't think they made more then six thousand bikes in 2003?!? Is it possible?

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    Does seem like a lot of bikes for one year at that kinds of operation, but, ultimately, I really don't know.

    I'll try to find out more about their system for generating serial numbers when I get back to MTL.

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    Back in the 70's and 80's, Giuseppe had no problems to repaint other people's frames and back then if you did not have replacement decals (they were hard to come by), he would use Marinoni decals upon request if the frame was of a reasonable quality. I think this stopped in the early 80's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde View Post
    Back in the 70's and 80's, Giuseppe had no problems to repaint other people's frames and back then if you did not have replacement decals (they were hard to come by), he would use Marinoni decals upon request if the frame was of a reasonable quality. I think this stopped in the early 80's.
    I have certainly heard that - not sure about the dates, but I've seen threads with bikes clearly not Marinoni that were nonetheless decalled as such, pro repaints done at Marinoni at some point.

    Is this a Canadian thing? Cyclops also did this, extensively it seems, though theirs (from a few I've seen) carried a 'painted by' decal which differentiated them from the ones built by Mike Mulholland. I'm sure folks elsewhere did, too, but still...

    Luckily for those keen on identifying Marinonis they were so often just covered with identifying marks that it's frequently not much of a concern (you know, when you have 3-5 engravings and an 'M' cutout on the BB). Though I imagine that there are, at some points, Marinoni-built bikes without these details. I've never really looked at older examples...
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    Oups I did it again!

    A new Marinoni... again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lea_Kim View Post
    Oups I did it again!

    A new Marinoni... again...
    But not yours for long if "un beau grand gars qui aime les vélos" comes along, eh?

    Wonder if it was originally built up with left-over 105 components, or if they were swapped over (components are 1990s, I think, maybe a bit early for a 2003 frame).

    Nice bike, if you're into brifters...

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    Yep! That Marinoni realy is too big for me and after too many new bikes, I have some cashflow issues... Hopefully, I'll found someone ready to buy for my asked price... Is fliping moraly wrong? I feel bad to sell a bike +3 times the price I paid... :-/
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    Brifters are not a bad thing. I prefer nice vintage downtube shifters and "real" brakes for my comuting, but for training, brifters are nice. A kind of break for every situation. Like coasters for rain and snow. Fixed gear to impress a date. Etc.

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