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    vintage Peugeot 103 bike

    Hey!
    Recently I found a vintage Peugeot 103 bike. The thing is, it has no front wheel tube and cover and the steering handle is a bit bended, therefore it needs a change.
    Firstly, problem with the steering handle, it has no screw, but its un-moveable IMAG0097.jpg How could I remove (change it).
    Secondly, I need a new front wheel for the bike. What kind of should I buy, on rear tube cover stays written something like 32-622 (28X15/8x11/4). as I understand, i have to look for 700c type of wheels, but here in local shops they all cost ~50Eur. Maybe there is a web-store or something where can I get them (rims/tubes/cover) cheaper?

    And lastly, how much do you think is worth spending on such bike, concerning, I am planning to use it for minor trips (30-80km) monthly. I am asking this because I am planning on buying a used bike for around 90Eur, and if I can repair this Peugeot bike cheaper, then Id go for this one. So your verdict on my situation? Is it worth investing in this one or should I rather go for complete used one?

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    If the handlebars are bent, and the front wheel is missing, chances are it was involved in a crash, so you could have other problems as well. That possibility, combined with a stuck stem, would probably be enough reason to avoid this bike.

    If you can find a similar bike in good used condition, I think it will serve you well.

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    In your situation, I'd take it to a bike shop for an estimate.

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    First of all, welcome to the Bike Forums. Second, your description and single picture are pretty much inadequate for us to help all that much.

    103 is the type of tubing the bicycle's frame set is made from, not the model of bicycle. There were many Peugeots, both French and Canadian, that were made from Carbolite 103 tubing.

    I agree that you need to be concerned about crash damage. Though not positive, it looks as if the bicycle is fitted with a replacement fork set. That, to me, would suggest that the bike had experienced crash trauma. Trauma that might also have been transmitted to the frame, rendering it untrue also. And, unless you are a competent bicycle mechanic, you don't want to get involved with straightening a frame set.

    Wheels for the bicycle should be pretty common in your area. Try listing what is needed on Craigslist, sit back and wait a little while. What you need might just show up and for a decent price.

    Other than that, I can be of little help. Good luck with the bicycle and, if there is no damage to the bike, then it would be a nice rider.

    This is how I remove a stuck seat post or steering stem. However, my guess is that your stem might not be stuck. There is a good chance that someone removed the bolt from the stem thinking that was all that was needed to get it loose. If you have the bolt, thread it into the steering stem assembly again, and then give it a sharp smack on the top, attempting to drive it down the length of the stem. The bolt should help to release the wedge that helps to clamp the stem into place.

    Front wheel? We all need to know what kind of Peugeot we are talking about. Pictures of the drive side of the bicycle would help Forum members answer your questions.
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    this is the bike, if you need some parts in close up please let me know. Additionally, as far as I know, this is the French version of Peugeot, one of those bikes made in biking boom on late 60ties/early 70ties.

    And I would really prefer to repair it, because it has nice Peugeot crank set and the same manufacturer braking system. In some way I see this as a good bike, and for those who are concerned about the bike involved in crash. Whats the worst that can happen? Its really impossible to put this bike under heavy pressure (i mean going off road or mountain biking), thus, the frame is not going to break on a bike road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethat View Post
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    this is the bike, if you need some parts in close up please let me know. Additionally, as far as I know, this is the French version of Peugeot, one of those bikes made in biking boom on late 60ties/early 70ties.

    And I would really prefer to repair it, because it has nice Peugeot crank set and the same manufacturer braking system. In some way I see this as a good bike, and for those who are concerned about the bike involved in crash. Whats the worst that can happen? Its really impossible to put this bike under heavy pressure (i mean going off road or mountain biking), thus, the frame is not going to break on a bike road.
    If the bike has Carbolite 103 tubing, it's most likely that it was made in the very late 70's to mid 80's. It would still most likely have metric sized and French threaded components though, which might make it a bit more challenging to find replacement parts for as the years go by. Something to consider if you want to keep the bike for a long time. Finding a later model Peugeot instead (1985 and later) with English threaded parts will make it easier to maintain the bike as a long term daily rider for many more years.

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    you know that finding another bike wont help me with removing the handle
    Additionally, im not planning to use this bike for more than 3 years or so. Because, quite simply, i cant take it with me on my travels ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethat View Post
    you know that finding another bike wont help me with removing the handle
    Additionally, im not planning to use this bike for more than 3 years or so. Because, quite simply, i cant take it with me on my travels ;P
    I'm just saying that per the problems you have described to us with this Peugeot, you should keep your options open to consider just getting a slightly newer/more complete bike. You obvously have not ever dealt with a stuck stem before. If it happens that your bike has a stuck stem, I tell you, it's not an easy thing to fix. It can take many days or even weeks of applying chemicals and penetrants to dissolve the corrosion to release the stem, and if it still stays stuck you might have to saw apart the stem to get it out.....BTW, did you also check if your fork is bent??...
    In the end, it's up to you whether you want to work on and spend money on this non-road ready bike or just spend a bit more and get a complete bike that might require very minimal work and money to get back on the road.

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    The fork seems fine.
    But nonetheless, thank you for your input, if I wont be able to remove the handle, ill trash the bike, although its a nice one

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    I think this bike would be worth some effort and I believe there may have been some miscommunication.

    First of all, the terms being used indicate to me that the OP's first language is probably NOT English, and I do see that a front tire ("tube cover", sic) needs to be replaced, but there is no apparent crash damage on the rim or fork.
    Secondly, the fact that it has checkers, a cottered alloy crank, 700c tires, DT shifters and a rear QR all suggest to me that this bike is at least something better that the common UE8 - and possibly something like a 1980 PX8M.

    By the way - the "steering handle" might be freed if the "screw" is re-threaded part way into the wedge below, and given a little tap with a hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
    I think this bike would be worth some effort and I believe there may have been some miscommunication.

    First of all, the terms being used indicate to me that the OP's first language is probably NOT English, and I do see that a front tire ("tube cover", sic) needs to be replaced, but there is no apparent crash damage on the rim or fork.
    Secondly, the fact that it has checkers, a cottered alloy crank, 700c tires, DT shifters and a rear QR all suggest to me that this bike is at least something better that the common UE8 - and possibly something like a 1980 PX8M.

    By the way - the "steering handle" might be freed if the "screw" is re-threaded part way into the wedge below, and given a little tap with a hammer.
    This is all about spot on. Just what I would have typed in, except for the fact it is better written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poguemahone View Post
    This is all about spot on. Just what I would have typed in, except for the fact it is better written.
    (Thanks Pogue. )
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    yes, indeed, its the same bike as auchencrow noted, I cant open the link though, but here the very first bike is as similar as it can get.
    But the handset (?) is not the only problem, the front wheel is curved, therefore needs change, and as I see it, its the most expensive part. Nonetheless, thanks auchencrow for not throwing dirt at my bike.
    Anyway, ill wait for tomorrow, when bike shops are opened and Ill update my progress with my Peugeot.

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    Remember, you asked what is worth spending on this Carbolite 103 framed Peugeot and that's what I am responding to and not "throwing dirt" at your bike as I am a Peugeot fan myself and thought highly of my 1982 Carbiolite 103 framed PH10S........
    Bent handlebar, missing tire, twisted wheel, headset problem(?). possible bigger stem problems(?), your list of problems seem to get bigger everytime.......just saying, for a base level model Peugeot bike, that's a lot of stuff to fix that could take money and time and can make it not worth it......... unless you have a sentimental attachment to it and can immediately find replacement parts for low cost.
    Heck, you can just also sell the parts off this one and find another one of the same or similar model if you really like it and just avoid all the problems trying to get this one fixed.

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    Have you tried to put the bolt back into the quill and tightening it but not all the way and then sharply rapping it with a hammer? That should take all of 5 minutes and will solve your stuck quill issue if that is all it is. Well hopefully solve it. Its common for the wedge to be stuck hard up in there until the bolt is sharply rapped while it is loosened after about 3-5 turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
    Bent handlebar, missing tire, twisted wheel, headset problem(?). possible bigger stem problems(?),
    Heck, you can just also sell the parts off this one and find another one of the same or similar model if you really like it and just avoid all the problems trying to get this one fixed.

    Chombi
    I have only two problems so far, the handlebar and the wheel. Both of them im planning to change. And If it would be so easy to find a nice bike for a fair price in the area im living, I wouldnt bust my nerves with this one

    /ridethat

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    ok, I went to the bike store and the wheel costs 50Eur, the cover costs 20Eur + the tube and finding a new handle... I guess repair costs of this bike will be to high for my pocket :/ So thank you all for your responses. Please close the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auchencrow
    I think this bike would be worth some effort and I believe there may have been some miscommunication.

    First of all, the terms being used indicate to me that the OP's first language is probably NOT English, and I do see that a front tire ("tube cover", sic) needs to be replaced, but there is no apparent crash damage on the rim or fork.
    Secondly, the fact that it has checkers, a cottered alloy crank, 700c tires, DT shifters and a rear QR all suggest to me that this bike is at least something better that the common UE8 - and possibly something like a 1980 PX8M.

    By the way - the "steering handle" might be freed if the "screw" is re-threaded part way into the wedge below, and given a little tap with a hammer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poguemahone View Post
    This is all about spot on. Just what I would have typed in, except for the fact it is better written.
    +1

    If it were mine, I'd be all over giving that bike a new lease on life. First steps, after making sure the frame & fork are straight, would be freeing the stem, and evaluating the bottom bracket to make sure it doesn't need replacement. If the BB is good to go, I'd see if the front wheel just needs truing, or needs to be rebuilt. Worst case, I'd invest in a new front wheel (or just a rim & spokes, & build them up on the original hub). And of course to complete the job of refurbishing, a replacement handlebar, along with new cables, brake pads, tires/tubes, chain etc. as needed, as well as clean, lube & adjust all the usual components.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethat View Post
    ok, I went to the bike store and the wheel costs 50Eur, the cover costs 20Eur + the tube and finding a new handle... I guess repair costs of this bike will be to high for my pocket :/ So thank you all for your responses. Please close the thread.
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