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    Colin Laing "Colian" Build Thread

    There haven't been a lot of build threads on here lately, so even though this might be a pretty quick one, I figure I'll show you all what I'm up to.

    I recently bought this circa-2000 Colin Laing frame from forum member Sjpitts. (Thanks again!) I hope he won't mind that I am re-using a couple of his frameset pictures here. I really dig the frame, the satin black is much more modern than anything else I have, and that combined with the 130mm rear spacing lends itself to a modern-classic style build.

    I just received a MASSIVE order from Ribble with pretty much everything I need for a 10sp Campagnolo Veloce build--all in black. This bike is going stealth! Here are a couple pictures of the frameset and the parts haul! Stay tuned for a full parts list and photos of the build itself.







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    There it is! Looking forward to this one. My Merckx frame just shipped and should arrive early next week.

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    Parts list:

    Campagnolo Veloce (in black, except of course chain, cassette, etc):
    Compact crankset
    13-29 cassette
    Chain
    Medium cage rear derailleur
    Braze-on front derailleur
    brakeset
    Powershift ergo levers
    Power torque external bearing BB cups

    Campagnolo Khamsin wheelset (You would not believe how quiet the freehub is on these. It's barely audible.)

    Stronglight A9 headset (1" threaded)

    Deda quill to threadless adapter

    Deda EL stem 90mm

    Deda "Magic" bars (using these because I have them around--may or may not keep them)

    Fizik microtex bar tape - black

    Vittoria Rubino Pro 3 tires - black - 23mm (I wanted 25's, but they were out and the price was right...)

    Tortec competition bottle cages - black (these were cheap, but I liked the look, we'll see if they last)

    Thompson seatpost (sjpitts was kind enough to include this with the frame)

    San Marco Regal saddle - black with silver rivets


    I believe that's everything. Did I miss something? I'm really excited about this bike!
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    This looks like it will be a beautiful build. Stunning frame, too.

    Tell about the shipping you used for that massive box. What shipper did you use, and what was rough cost for that monster?

    Otherwise, we all await to see your progress (and what else was in that box!!!).

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    I'm very excited for this build! Knowing sjpitts (Jared) and Colin Laing, I have some ties to this bike!

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    I want to see what this one looks like when finished!!!

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    Gonna be awesome David.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    This looks like it will be a beautiful build. Stunning frame, too.

    Tell about the shipping you used for that massive box. What shipper did you use, and what was rough cost for that monster?

    Otherwise, we all await to see your progress (and what else was in that box!!!).

    Regarding shipping, Ribble is awesome. FREE international shipping on any order over 250 GBP, excluding wheels (and probably other big stuff). The wheels cost 35 GBP to ship, but given how cheap their prices are, the cost for the wheels was still less than their before shipping cost at most US retailers.
    Last edited by lostarchitect; 04-19-12 at 08:12 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG410 View Post
    I'm very excited for this build! Knowing sjpitts (Jared) and Colin Laing, I have some ties to this bike!
    Well, if you know Colin, tell him I think his frame is awesome and I can't wait to ride it. Jared knows how much I appreciate the awesome price he gave me on it, and his excellent shipping.
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    I very nearly pulled the trigger on that one too, it is going to rock!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatwolf View Post
    There it is! Looking forward to this one. My Merckx frame just shipped and should arrive early next week.
    Awesome! You should do a build thread too!
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    Progress

    Made some progress. I still need to pick up the correct bottom bracket and cassette tools, or I might have gone ahead and built the whole bike today. Here's where I am:



    I'm not too sure about how that stem looks on this bike. But for now, it is what it is. The tires are mounted and the wheels spin smoooooooth. I still can't get over how quiet the freehub is.

    I had a little trouble with the headset. I couldn't get the old one out, so I took it to the LBS. I figured while I was there I'd have them press the new one into the headtube--but strangely, it didn't want to fit. It was just slightly too small. You could slip it in but it'd fall right out. So I brought it home and stared at it for a bit. I consulted Rudi and Neal, who both made fun of me. Eventually, the beer can in my hand gave me the idea to shim it--worked like a charm. I've never heard of anyone doing that before, but I can't think of any reason why it would be any more dangerous than shimming handlebars, so I went ahead with it.

    Next step will be getting the drivetrain installed, and then... The ergos. I'm a little scared of the ergos.
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    Oh my, this is going to be one hell of a build.

    don't sweat that Ergo installation, if you follow the instructions (of the park tools website, not those from the campy booklet - the english is quite, ahem, funny), it's not that hard! I've done it myself and cocked it up only twice before I got it right just make sure you trim the end of the cables REAL GOOD and make sure nothing, and I mean nothing, remains frayed at the cable ends. Put the correct stops on and the rest will go smooth. Adjusting is not harder than adjusting good old Super Record (in my experience).

    Odd headset experience btw. I have one headset (tange levin) that's too small for all the frames I tried it on. Very annoying; you really need a press fit for a good functioning headset. I haven't shimmed it and installed it on my beater, on which I tolerate a degree of sloppiness.
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    Cool looking build. I gotta say though I really dislike the 1" threaded to threadless stem adapters, I find them very ugly, and dislike them even more than plain ol' threadless.

    Not hating on the build, just seen a few of these lately and needed to say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The MAX View Post
    Cool looking build. I gotta say though I really dislike the 1" threaded to threadless stem adapters, I find them very ugly, and dislike them even more than plain ol' threadless.

    Not hating on the build, just seen a few of these lately and needed to say it.
    I actually agree. I don't think I like the way it looks. Eventually I may change it out.
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    Just a quick update. It was too dark to take a good photo last night, but I installed the crankset, cassette & pedals. All I have left to do now is get the ergos on and adjusted, and then the finishing touches--bar tape, etc. It's nearly ready to go. Photos soon!
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    Can't wait to see it! I checked out Ribble today and their prices make me feel like maybe an athena 11 build isn't so far away after all...

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    That's gonna be an excellent build. I look forward to the final product. The best part is that you then get to ride it
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    More pics, Mr. Hawkins.
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    I'll try to take some tonight. I didn't realize I needed an angled torx driver to install the ergos. Doh. I think you actually told me about that, Justin, but it went in one ear and out the other. Anyway, what I'm saying is I need a tool before I can go any farther. I'll try to pick it up tonight.
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    Almost there...

    I'm nearly there now. The only thing left is to run cables and get shifting and braking adjusted, and then bar tape. Here are some progress photos, sorry for the cell phone quality. I'll take nice ones when it's done!















    Oh, and on my way home today I stopped off at an LBS for something and noticed these:



    Apparently they found a whole box of NOS black Royal Enfield toe clips from the 80's. Neat, just what I need to eliminate some more silver from the bike!



    Hope to finish this up tomorrow!
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    Oh, I forgot to mention this. With everything on the frame except for the brake cables, the cable housings, and the bar tape the bike is weighing in at over 22 lbs. This is a little surprising to me, I expected that with modern components the bike would be significantly lighter than, say, my 1964 JRJ, which weighs something like 24.5 lbs. I neglected to weigh the frame & fork after removing the old headset, but I think they were on the heavier side. But it is what it is, and I don't think that the 2-3 extra pounds that I didn't expect are going to bother me. I could probably save a chunk of weight by going clipless, but I'm not going to do that. Anyway, maybe this will inspire me to lose the 20 extra pounds I'm wearing around my waist?
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    It is quite hard to go under 20 lbs with a steel frame and threaded fork. I have a Della Santa that's a hair under, it uses mostly Record components and ti stem and seatpost, plus saddle with ti rails. A typical build is 22 to 24 lbs.

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    Oh, and on my way home today I stopped off at an LBS for something and noticed these:



    Apparently they found a whole box of NOS black Royal Enfield toe clips from the 80's. Neat, just what I need to eliminate some more silver from the bike!
    Nice! Out of curiosity, what lbs would that be?

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    I love it! I can't wait to see it finished.

    Looks like you may have your DT cable stops on the wrong sides.
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