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Old 04-27-12, 08:09 PM   #1
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Got my dad fired up about C&V! He picked an old Sekai - never heard of them?!?

My 71 year old dad came over last weekend to give me a hand in the middle of my cottered crank nightmare, and he was as determined as I was to get that crank off. Over the last month or so I have been talking to him about old bikes and told him to keep his eye out, and I think he is as excited about C&V bikes now as I am! Like us all I think he is reliving a bit of his youth with all the bike work and talk that we have been doing together. He called yesterday telling me about some yard sale ads in the paper that said they had bikes in their sale, and then tonight he called and said he ran into a neighbor and picked up a Sekai bike.

I did a little searching and found out they are mid-range Japanese bikes, but depending on the model could actully be pretty nice. I told him to get me a model number and the serial number and I would do some more digging.

Anybody ever had a Sekai? What is the general opinion about them?
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they have cool head badges!
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Hey there, I started this thread http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...cycle-Database for just when such questions get asked. I would say though if it's below a 2400 unless your dad or your really like it, it probably won't be worth effort into it.
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Hey there, I started this thread http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...cycle-Database for just when such questions get asked. I would say though if it's below a 2400 unless your dad or your really like it, it probably won't be worth effort into it.
Thanks for the link! I've started reading through it and some of them look pretty neat. I had never seen or heard of the Sekai brand before and it is an interesting story. I got a real kick out of my dad calling me to tell me he had picked a bike while out on his walk today - I may have infected him with C&V fever!
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they have cool head badges!
Did a quick Google search and some of those badges are really cool! I'm anxious to get over to dad's tomorrow to check out his find. If it's junk but has a cool headbadge we may remove that sucker and make it the first member of the collection.
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Thanks for the link! I've started reading through it and some of them look pretty neat. I had never seen or heard of the Sekai brand before and it is an interesting story. I got a real kick out of my dad calling me to tell me he had picked a bike while out on his walk today - I may have infected him with C&V fever!
>.> Careful.. Sekai's are a slippery slope if you get hooked on the brand. I'm still hunting a 4000 for myself in my size... you surely don't want your dad feverishly hunting CL for hits and looking for his next ebay auction fix? Is there any way pics are coming? and if the sekai is old enough (like my babies), the model/headbadges etc is painted on and often just cleanly has worn off by this point.
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>.>.... Is there any way pics are coming?
Sure, I'll post some pics this weekend when I get by there to see the bike - I mean mom and dad
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I traded my Sekai and some cash for a motorcyle last year, which I just finally sold this past Sunday.

It was a dark blue Sekai 500, was rather heavy and handled somewhat like a Varsity, with very layed-back 71-degree frame angles.

Luckily it was on the large size, so I was able to ably attack our steep hills with it.
I got it for free from a neighbor, and liked it enough to upgrade the Sugino "Idol" crankset to a nicer SR triple crank with somewhat of a half-step progression on the chainrings, which I found entertaining to use.
The frame was DB hi-ten by Tange, and the rims were steel ,but decent, on hi-flange Sekai-labeled alloy hubs.
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Sekai while not labeled as Sakai for bikes or most components made a large percentage of the bikes to come out of Japan made both very high end and mid level stuff. If you have a nicer bike labeled as Sakai it is kinda rare but not worth a fortune.
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I just got back from mom and dads - it is a weird bike and pretty rough looking! Does have a Cromoy frame, has a stem and handlebar like I have never seen, front brakes like I have never seen, the back brake is a canti set with bosses on the underside of the chain stays (again like I have never seen). The back brake is Exage, front brakes are ??, wheels are Araya with Maillard hubs. It is definitely interesting, and it fits my dad perfectly and he says it rides pretty smooth and strong. I didn't jump on it and ride it any, too busy checking it out and making it safe for dad.



The tires were just some that my dad's neighbor had laying around - dad will probably change them out to something less aggressive for neighborhood riding.

What do you think? It is interesting and weird, needs a LOT of cleaning and tuning.....

Edit to add - looked it over and couldn't find a model number or serial number anywhere.
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I know next to squat about the MTB's but that one looks nice to me, I've got a set of brakes similar to the front on a diamond back from the 80's... I wonder which mtb model that is.
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I know next to squat about the MTB's but that one looks nice to me, I've got a set of brakes similar to the front on a diamond back from the 80's... I wonder which mtb model that is.
I'm going to do some more digging and see what I can find. Maybe we will reveal a model number as we clean it up and get some the non-original stickers off of it. It is definitely different and cool and odd - lot of stuff I have never seen before.
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The rear brake is a U-Brake. Common on MTBs in the late 80s. They had a much longer run in BMX land. Front brakes are old school non-low-profile cantis.

Looks like a one-piece bar/stem combo!

Cool olde MTB!
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Is the groupset itself plain deore?
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Rear derailer almost looks like DX, hard to tell on my little netbook screen tho
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I did a little digging and sadly, all I can find is one identical to it was sold not very long ago.. no model markings on it either.
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Does he still ride at 71?
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My dad still rides at 82. And my mom at 79; she'll be 80 in a month. I hope I'm still riding when I'm that age -- if I live that long!
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Is the groupset itself plain deore?
You know I was intrigued by the "weird" stuff I didn't even look! I'll have to check it out next I'm over there or call dad and get him to check.
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We have a old Italian guy that rides around our neighborhood in good weather on a English Racer wearing a wife beater. He has to be in his later 70's. Who knows, maybe an old Tour rider?
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Yep - He is as active as ever! Walks every morning and used to walk on the treadmill again at night, but he has bursitis in his hips and the riding actually feels better to him than walking, so he has started riding again. Not far, just a few miles around the neighborhood. He had ridden alot up until a couple years ago then he started walking more. I hope I am still riding and in as good as shape as he is when I am 71!
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It's mid to late 80's with that U-brake under the chainstay. My 87 Fat Chance has one. That would explain the integrated tiged bar&stem. If you have questions, I would through it out over at MTB Review.

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I just got back from mom and dads - it is a weird bike and pretty rough looking! Does have a Cromoy frame, has a stem and handlebar like I have never seen, front brakes like I have never seen, the back brake is a canti set with bosses on the underside of the chain stays (again like I have never seen). The back brake is Exage, front brakes are ??, wheels are Araya with Maillard hubs. It is definitely interesting, and it fits my dad perfectly and he says it rides pretty smooth and strong. I didn't jump on it and ride it any, too busy checking it out and making it safe for dad.



The tires were just some that my dad's neighbor had laying around - dad will probably change them out to something less aggressive for neighborhood riding.

What do you think? It is interesting and weird, needs a LOT of cleaning and tuning.....

Edit to add - looked it over and couldn't find a model number or serial number anywhere.
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That is so good to hear. No doubt we are ALL getting older. Make the most out of every day and have no regrets when we look back. I'll be 51 this year and have been riding the past 23. Hope I have another 23 left in the saddle.

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Yep - He is as active as ever! Walks every morning and used to walk on the treadmill again at night, but he has bursitis in his hips and the riding actually feels better to him than walking, so he has started riding again. Not far, just a few miles around the neighborhood. He had ridden alot up until a couple years ago then he started walking more. I hope I am still riding and in as good as shape as he is when I am 71!
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