Frame ID, Columbus and Campy
04-30-12, 03:47 PM
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Frame ID, Columbus and Campy
So now I bought this frame to replace my current one, snapped dropout, and I am just wondering what it may be. The frame and the fork both have campy dropouts and the cable braze-ons are campy as well. The guy said that it had a campy bb in it when her got it so I am going to assume that it is Italian. Thanks for the help, now the pictures!
This is located on the seat tube on the drive side.
A good example of the original color and some of the lug work
Also some one down the line drilled holes into the seat tube for an extra water bottle cage, but stopped there. I am thinking that I am going to fill these in before paint, but am looking for some advice. Can I do this at home or should I take it to a frame builder. I don't have a welder btw.
This is located on the seat tube on the drive side.
A good example of the original color and some of the lug work
Also some one down the line drilled holes into the seat tube for an extra water bottle cage, but stopped there. I am thinking that I am going to fill these in before paint, but am looking for some advice. Can I do this at home or should I take it to a frame builder. I don't have a welder btw.
04-30-12, 11:35 PM
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I have a '67 Atala Record with the same head lugs, seat lug, and fork crown, all chromed, as well as the serial number stamped into the right-hand side of the seat tube. The first 2 digits are the year of manufacture. So yours looks like a '72, and I would imagine that the braze-on's were added later.
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Don't assume it's Italian threaded if it had a Campagnolo BB. You should be able to tell if both side of the bottom brackets are right/left threading by turning your fingernail in the threads. That will tell you if it's English or French/Italian. Italian BBs are slightly bigger (an non-Italian cup will be loose) and wider (70cm vs. 69mm). A standard cup will be loose if Italian.
What size seat post diameter? If you don't have calipers, any spare seatposts to sample in the frame to check the size?
What size seat post diameter? If you don't have calipers, any spare seatposts to sample in the frame to check the size?
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05-01-12, 08:54 AM
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If you're going to have a framebuilder fill those holes, why not just have him braze in water bottle studs instead? The frame has already been altered by the other braze-ons and a re-paint, after all.
Otherwise, if you're having it painted, you can probably just fill with some sort of bondo/epoxy. I don't know how that would hold up if you're having it powder coated, though.
Otherwise, if you're having it painted, you can probably just fill with some sort of bondo/epoxy. I don't know how that would hold up if you're having it powder coated, though.
05-01-12, 09:06 AM
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Don't assume it's Italian threaded if it had a Campagnolo BB. You should be able to tell if both side of the bottom brackets are right/left threading by turning your fingernail in the threads. That will tell you if it's English or French/Italian. Italian BBs are slightly bigger (an non-Italian cup will be loose) and wider (70cm vs. 69mm). A standard cup will be loose if Italian.
What size seat post diameter? If you don't have calipers, any spare seatposts to sample in the frame to check the size?
What size seat post diameter? If you don't have calipers, any spare seatposts to sample in the frame to check the size?
Cool bike, we're it mine, I'd find some rivnuts to use the holes in the seattube (and keep an eye on them) rather than try to hide them.
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Probably mid-70's at the latest with that cable routing.
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