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    Good Deal Gone Bad?

    Must say, this is my first experience with a good swap deal potentially gone bad, and a real disappointment compared with the great sales and swaps done within this community.

    Did a swap with mbbiker a couple of weeks ago. My stuff arrived at his address on the 18th according to USPS, but nothing has shown up on my end. Have sent a couple of PM's and an e-mail, asking whether his stuff had been shipped, but zero response. Nada. Not a "golly, I've been slow dropping it in the mail, will do that tomorrow", not a "it's been shipped, here's the tracking number", not even a "FO". Was originally concerned that maybe he got sick or was otherwise out of commission, but then saw he posted on the C&V forum a couple of days ago.

    Anybody know mbbiker, have a phone number or any way to reach him? Had a similar experience with him? I'm kinda scratching my head over this...
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    The name doesn't ring a bell sorry. Does he normally post here and is he new or has he been a member for awhile?

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    mbbiker is suitably close to mtnbke that I brace myself for an oversized aluminum tirade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tugrul View Post
    mbbiker is suitably close to mtnbke that I brace myself for an oversized aluminum tirade.
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    ^+1


    I haven't seen Mtnbke in a while...

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    aka: Dr. Cannondale rccardr's Avatar
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    Yep, that's the gentleman to whom I am referring. Based on his posts in the past, I get the impression that he works in a Wisconsin bike shop.

    Not trying to be a d**k here, just want to complete the swap and move on.

    Understand that life intrudes and things happen, but in a community like this we rely on each other to adhere to a common code of courtesy. When something like this develops it makes me realize just how tenuous that trust can be.

    Meanwhile, if Mtnbike shows up, I have several new 'luminum projects including a keen-O Cannondale ST set up for light touring with 32's that he'll appreciate.
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    Sorry to hear about this, hopefully it gets straightened out soon. His profile shows his last activity as: 04-29-12 10:28 AM
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    Hopefully this'll get straightened out. After all you do have his address.
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    Well, it appears that I have been well and truly scr*wed. Not a word from this guy, nothing in the mail, no response to messages. I would suggest not dealing with him in the future.

    As for myself, well, as mentioned previously...I know where he lives.
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    All it takes is one rotten apple...
    Best of luck to you rccardr, nothing quite feels like the trust being broken when dealing with someone and our passions.
    "After all is said and done, a hell lot of a lot more is said than done."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
    Well, it appears that I have been well and truly scr*wed. Not a word from this guy, nothing in the mail, no response to messages. I would suggest not dealing with him in the future.

    As for myself, well, as mentioned previously...I know where he lives.
    If you know where he lives, you can probably find his phone number. And the number of the local police department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
    If you know where he lives, you can probably find his phone number. And the number of the local police department.
    Yep, good ol' J.W. will take care of him.

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    What were you trading, OP? Is this a big loss in more than just morale? I really hope not. So sorry.

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    mbbiker added to my Idiot Ignore list.
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    This may count as mail fraud and the postmaster may be able to help you there.

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    +1. Or, with proof of your trade agreement via email/PM and your multiple attempts to contact him, I'd think you could at least take him to small claims court. People shouldn't get away with this stuff.

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    What's a bigger slap in the face is that he still logs on with this account...

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    When I got screwed out of $500 a few years ago on eBay, while eBay did nothing, other eBay buyers who had gotten cheated by this guy formed a virtual posse, got a good address for him and contacted the local constabulary who showed considerably more interest than eBay did. They arrested the guy and charged him. Ultimately he paid restitution to everyone and the charges were dropped.

    It took a LONG time before I ever bought anything from eBay after that incident.
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    rcard do you mind if I ask what you were trading for? That's truly messed up in my mind.. aren't you the one who kept giving away all the useful stuff in pay it forward for just shipping? I'm pretty sure you are, and you do a lot of good here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaleighSport View Post
    rcard do you mind if I ask what you were trading for? That's truly messed up in my mind.. aren't you the one who kept giving away all the useful stuff in pay it forward for just shipping? I'm pretty sure you are, and you do a lot of good here.
    Indeed, I was one of the recipients of Doc's generosity. He gave me a mustache bar and when I met him to pick the stuff up, he gave me even more stuff!! That's generosity at its best. Doc definitely does not deserve to be treated like this.
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    Guess this shows don't make trade's while moving, Found his box of parts ready to mail last week unpacking at my new place next to the brake levers i received from him. His package went out the next day. Hopefully by now it made there. I have no excuse for taking 7 months to finish this. Hopefully everyone sees this and if there's anyone else out there I forgot a payment to or to send a trade to PLEASE pm me or post here. I want to make sure any and all loose ends are tied up here. All I can say is i'm sorry I messed up

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    WOW
    never expected this ending. sorta, good ending. better than expected kinda ending, i mean.
    hope the OP has got some sincere apologies received too.

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    That's why there is such thing as HEATWARE (here's mine http://heatware.com/eval.php?id=66572). I don't see any reason why we have to do deals with nameless people with no recourse or feedback. It's free, effective, and it works. By the way, this is the only forum where I've seen it OK to ask the buyer for Paypal as a gift. You guys do realize that paying by gift gives you ZERO recourse. I think the mods/owners need a forum-wide shift to avoid situations like this. Every other forum I've seen employs these safeguards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoota View Post
    That's why there is such thing as HEATWARE (here's mine http://heatware.com/eval.php?id=66572). I don't see any reason why we have to do deals with nameless people with no recourse or feedback. It's free, effective, and it works. By the way, this is the only forum where I've seen it OK to ask the buyer for Paypal as a gift. You guys do realize that paying by gift gives you ZERO recourse. I think the mods/owners need a forum-wide shift to avoid situations like this. Every other forum I've seen employs these safeguards.
    I've bought and sold a few things here with zero problems...I call it trust. I suppose I believe in a certain degree of comradery or brotherhood when dealing in the sale forum, but every once in a while something can go bad.
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