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Old 05-01-12, 04:35 PM   #1
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Welter Skelter!

This came home with me last weekend, along with a bike I really wanted. (Pics of that one later.)

There is just a bit of info on Welter in the archives here and elsewhere. Pretty obviously it's a boom era gaspipe Italian, nothing subtle about it. No name on the dropouts that I could see...though I was mostly looking at the other bike.

Welter was apparently independent at first and later part of a group of companies called Garlatti. This must have been one of their better bikes; it does have Campy shifters and FD, which I guess are Valentino. Not yet being a Campy guy I don't know...aren't the shifters the same as Gran Sport and NR? The Campy name is prominently featured on two decals--the magic of advertising. The hubs are Normandy high-flange, with the coolest steel rims I have seen. Universal brakes, Pivo bars and stem, Magistroni cottered crank. The RD is now a Sunrace.

The cool thing about the bike is that under the paint it appears to be 100% chromed, and where the paint is scratched away the chrome even appears fairly polished. So it has the potential to be a pretty neat looking (if heavy) city daily rider. Of course, that's what my CL ad will say, the neat looking part anyway. Not sure yet whether to offer it as frame/fork (a C&V friend has dibs on the brakes) or if it's an easier sell complete.

So...for your viewing pleasure, and the benefit of the next person searching for info on the brand:













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That looks like a very nice bike if you get ride of the chain guard and steel wheels.
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That looks like a very nice bike if you get ride of the chain guard and steel wheels.
It's for sale! Or will be when I can think about it a bit. Can I wrap it up for you, sir?
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That looks like a very nice bike if you get ride of the chain guard and steel wheels.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo It's unadulterated and 70's cool. With alloy rims and no guard it's just like every other flipped 10 speed on the CL.

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My son would love it.....but those steel wheels would cost a ton to ship huh?
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Al - Are you sure it's "just" another boom bike?

The lugs are a little different, but it bears a strong resemblance to my late sixties Ganna, which though high-ten, is a superb riding and fairly lightweight bike, even rivaling my Columbus framed '87 Bianchi CdI in ride quality (though I must admit to making a few upgrades - (Alloy wheels, Belleri track bars, and removing that abominable Valentine DR )). BTW, mine appears to be all chromed under the paint too.

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You have to admit that pantographed 'maccari torino' is awfully cool, even if it's on rims that weigh 10 lbs each.

Heck, I'm going to put them on eBay for $999 BIN, try to entice the Japanese market. Think how rare they must be.
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Hey, Auchen...thanks for that, seriously. That does appear to be the same frame, heck, the same bike. Glad to see yours looking so nice, and it makes me wonder how much of the weight is in the wheels.

Then again I wasn't paying that much attention to the Welter on Saturday, as I was distracted by the bike I'd really come to get...a Motobecane Grand Record.
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Hey, Auchen...thanks for that, seriously. That does appear to be the same frame, heck, the same bike. Glad to see yours looking so nice, and it makes me wonder how much of the weight is in the wheels.

Then again I wasn't paying that much attention to the Welter on Saturday, as I was distracted by the bike I'd really come to get...a Motobecane Grand Record.
A Grand Record eh? I can appreciate how that could be distracting.

Anyway, there is a little more info on my Ganna in this old thread. It was very similarly equipped to your Welter, including (unmarked) rims with the same stipple pattern (but a 3T stem).
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It's for sale! Or will be when I can think about it a bit. Can I wrap it up for you, sir?
Sorry, a little small for me.
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Sorry, a little small for me.
j/k this was not a FS ad by any means.
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