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Old 05-02-12, 02:23 AM   #1
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Raleigh 3-speed different ladies' frame styles

Do any of the 3-speed experts know whether Raleigh made the "loop" and "twin parallel bar" ladies' frames (Superbe/Sports) concurrently, or did one follow the other?



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They made them concurrently. For instance the rod brake version had the loop frame while, the cable brake version had the twin parallel bar style. I think they may have even made the mixte at the same time at one point, making it 3 different step-through (ladies) frame styles.
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Thanks PG. So did they even call them the same thing (i.e. Sports or Superbe)?

Weird that if you wanted rod brakes you'd get a completely different-looking bike to what you'd get if you wanted cable brakes, even though the model name was the same...
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I think they used different names for the different styles. The person that really knows this stuff is cudak888, so he'd probably know the answer to this.
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Early on the straight drop bar was called the Dawn which would become the Sports. The Loop frame has a much more upright geometry and is a bit taller and was set up with rod brakes. The Dawn was lighter, a longer cockpit and had rim brakes. Two very different bicycles, least that is what I've been told and have experienced thus far.
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That makes sense, however I'm sure that I've seen bikes of both frame types called "Superbe" (at least in the UK).
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