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Old 05-03-12, 03:44 PM   #1
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1986 Miyata two ten vs. 1975 Raleigh Super Course MK II

I have two bikes I am looking at both at a fair price, What would be your recommendation one over the other.
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Super Course. Here's why.
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Old 05-03-12, 04:07 PM   #3
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Super Course. Here's why.
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Really the best solution here, A-Red, is to buy them both - if you have saved up enough of your milk money!
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I could buy them both but I need to be wise with my space or my resale.

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Both are high-quality bikes, and you'd likely be happy with either. In terms of the product line-ups for each brand, the Super Course is much much higher. If they are the same price, get the Super Course. It's a great all-arounder and the main triangle is Reynolds 531. This steel is superior to the Miyata's Chromoly.

Also, that Super Course is just plain HOT!
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Both are high-quality bikes, and you'd likely be happy with either. In terms of the product line-ups for each brand, the Super Course is much much higher. If they are the same price, get the Super Course. It's a great all-arounder and the main triangle is Reynolds 531. This steel is superior to the Miyata's Chromoly.

Also, that Super Course is just plain HOT!
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I really appreciate that. The owner of the Raleigh is holding it for me and it is my size. I am getting rather fond of Raleighs.

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The Miyata for everyday and the Super Course for fair Sunday rides and showing off. If that SC was my size...............
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Love my SC -
The Miyata is OK but doesn't have any POP!
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The SC looks like a 54 cm frame and the Miyata looks like a 58 or so. Size matters so buy the one that fits you best.
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I am leaving to travel the 40 miles to pick up the Super Course MKII,
The owner sent me several pictures. I will put them up tonight.
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The SC looks like a 54 cm frame and the Miyata looks like a 58 or so. Size matters so buy the one that fits you best.
54 cm is what the SC is and that is my perfect size.
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Old 05-04-12, 02:48 PM   #13
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I drove the 120 mile round trip and I am pleased with the results. The owner I bought it from was not knowledgeable about what he had but the person he bought it from one year ago refurbished this beauty. This is out of Colorado Springs Colorado.
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Nice work. I would have definitely taken that SC over the Miyata. Good lookin bike.
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That exact red SC was the bike I toured on in 1976 as a teenager. The bb went south and I replaced it with an all-alloy Maxi crankset from bikecology for $24.95, which included the bb and entire crankset.
Mine had the Huret Jubilee shifters with the molded plastic tips on polished alloy flat stock.
I sold that bike and bought a newer SC which had Cyclone derailers and concave rims, and it was stolen after 6 months or so at NC State.
After that, I built my bikes from cast-off parts for a while. I started collecting about 10 years ago.
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Sweet new ride. The red looks great and I would have made the same choice. I mean it is called a Super Course. Super is always better.
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You made the same choice I would have. That's a really nice bike with nice components, and it's in great shape. Enjoy it!
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I took the Super Course out for a shake down ride. It is every thing everyone said it would be.
The only thing I have done to it is put on a water bottle cage and adjust the saddle height. What a nice ride. I is a keeper for sure.

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