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Old 07-19-13, 08:59 PM   #701
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Sort of the same here, get up at 5 to be on the road at 6 am, beat the heat.....
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Old 07-20-13, 10:25 AM   #702
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Maybe see what the weather turns out like? 0700 start if its nice, 0600 if its hot? Iab, why did you give up your room?
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Comic Con.

Looks like I will be solo again this year.
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Old 07-20-13, 11:23 AM   #704
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Most people's walking is faster than my climbing.
You are modest; I've been tracking your rides on Garmin...nice 53-miler today!
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Old 07-20-13, 11:36 AM   #705
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At least they're steel.

Maybe I'll bring mine.....
Your Y foil?
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Old 07-20-13, 01:51 PM   #706
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Yep.

Even at a Trek convention, somebody has to be the odd uncle.....
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Old 07-20-13, 05:52 PM   #707
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You are modest; I've been tracking your rides on Garmin...nice 53-miler today!
Thanks' It was my longest and one of the faster rides on the Trek. I wish I was doing rides like this twice a week. This year has not been cycling intensive.

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Even at a Trek convention, somebody has to be the odd uncle.....
I only see two chain rings. It's my understanding that you'll need three.
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Cool bring the Y-Foil....make all us steel Trek riders look like we are riding mountain bikes with 24" wheels, but it would be fun
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The 83' Trek 700 gets DD duty for sure. I rode the Paramount for the Scenic Shore 150.

Decision Made!
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Old 07-22-13, 03:21 PM   #711
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My Bianchi will definitely NOT be ready in time for the dare (picking it up from the frame builder on Wednesday, and it won't be painted until mid August).

So, I'll be riding something else. Colnago?

Do I:

1) Put a TA crank with small rings on the front, or

2) Convert a NR RD into a long cage? I was in San Fran this past weekend and picked up a kit from Brad at American Cyclery. FYI, a visit to American Cyclery is highly recommended.....
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Looks like I will be solo again this year.

What time do you want to get started? What distance are you shooting for?
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Ideally.

6

100-200km
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Sounds good. Beam me up.
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My Bianchi will definitely NOT be ready in time for the dare (picking it up from the frame builder on Wednesday, and it won't be painted until mid August).

So, I'll be riding something else. Colnago?

Do I:

1) Put a TA crank with small rings on the front, or My vote.

2) Convert a NR RD into a long cage? I was in San Fran this past weekend and picked up a kit from Brad at American Cyclery. FYI, a visit to American Cyclery is highly recommended.....
For me, messing with the front is easier, and easier to fix when I mess it up.
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I have several bikes that I am thinking of riding in the DD. One of the top contenders is a '74 Paramount. But its only 10 speeds, and because of the 144 BCD Campy crank, only has a 41 on the front and a 34 on the rear. Will that be a low enough gear for this terrain?
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Kind of depends on your fitness level. 41 is a little big front-wise, but 34 is MTB stuff rear-wise.
I'd compare it to the gear inches on a 34 front/26 rear and see how it compares. A lot of people on DD are riding compacts.
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I have several bikes that I am thinking of riding in the DD. One of the top contenders is a '74 Paramount. But its only 10 speeds, and because of the 144 BCD Campy crank, only has a 41 on the front and a 34 on the rear. Will that be a low enough gear for this terrain?

If you are young and light and ride 300+ miles a month most of the year, a 52/41 Crankset & 14-34 cogset gear range would be no problem.

Or... if you are like me and are no longer young and carry a little extra baggage and haven't ridden 250 miles a month this year a 52/40/28 crankset will be needed.
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I have several bikes that I am thinking of riding in the DD. One of the top contenders is a '74 Paramount. But its only 10 speeds, and because of the 144 BCD Campy crank, only has a 41 on the front and a 34 on the rear. Will that be a low enough gear for this terrain?
As everyone has stated, it depends. But last year I rode the 150 with a 42/24 as my granny.
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2) Convert a NR RD into a long cage? I was in San Fran this past weekend and picked up a kit from Brad at American Cyclery. FYI, a visit to American Cyclery is highly recommended.....
This one. For the sole reason that it would be cool. I write that as someone just observing, not doing.
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I am not young (46), but doing more than 100 per month. UGH I hope I am not nuts...please tell me so. 42 front, 28 Rear?
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> Will that be a low enough gear for this terrain?

I agree with RobbieTunes. I made the 100k last year with a 42-24 low gear (and only 12 speeds). I didn't walk up any hills, but I was in that gear a lot. I would think that 41-34 will be fine. My low gear this year will be 30-21.
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I am not young (46), but doing more than 100 per month. UGH I hope I am not nuts...please tell me so. 42 front, 28 Rear?
How do you feel after 50 or 90 miles of cycling? Do you stand on the pedels while you climb? Can you climb while standing for 5 to 15 minutes? Taller gearing can be used while climbing the hills if the cyclist likes to stand while climbing. Some can climb like this, most can't.

If you are fit enough to stand on the pedals while climbing, and can do it for a half mile, the 42 front, 28 Rear is doable. Can you do this after several hours on the bike?
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2) Convert a NR RD into a long cage? I was in San Fran this past weekend and picked up a kit from Brad at American Cyclery. FYI, a visit to American Cyclery is highly recommended.....
That's what I'll have on the RRB, an SR Apex crank up front with 48-30, and in back a NR with Bob Freeman's repro Rally cage and 30-21 cluster. You've seen it. We could be mates, though I'll never keep up with you. :-/
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How do you feel after 50 or 90 miles of cycling? Do you stand on the pedals while you climb? Can you climb while standing for 5 to 15 minutes? Taller gearing can be used while climbing the hills if the cyclist likes to stand while climbing. Some can climb like this, most can't.

If you are fit enough to stand on the pedals while climbing, and can do it for a half mile, the 42 front, 28 Rear is doable. Can you do this after several hours on the bike?
I did the Scenic Shore 150 and did the Century loop the first day...fought the wind all day. I did climb on my Paramount the hills and felt better standing than sitting. None of these "hills" were that big of deal though. Day 2 was very hilly, again not likely to DD standard, but climbing was easier standing. I never went below a 46/23....I had a 36/23 option.

Wow...I really appreciate you help and input on this. My first DD.
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