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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
    Another group of 6 from Chicago has done the 1st two Triple Crown legs, the Arcadia Brute and the Kickapoo Kicker, and will likely be around. They ride modern bikes, and are from Chicago, so I'll see if I can get a Green Bay Packer cake made just for them....svtmike and his cohorts. Which makes me think this has gotten to the Road Forum.
    After the ride I'm sure we won't care how the cake is decorated. It's not in the road forum, I was just coming in here to figure out what to do with the Raleigh Grand Prix frame I recently acquired. I saw the thread title and knew it had to be a Dairyland Dare thread.

    I've decided to do the hipster thing to the Raleigh so I can work on my spin. But it will have taught me how to take off stuck crank cotters, unbend the rear triangle to correct the spacing, check the dropout alignment, and deal with Raleigh's unique bottom bracket size and threading. It's been repainted poorly at least once so I'm also going to strip it down and paint it.

    Ultimately I want to find a nice vintage road bike that I can functionally restore and leave at my dad's place in the North Woods so I don't have to shlep my main bike up there every time I go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
    Fences make it too hard to "borrow" your neighbor's lawn mower, so we didn't have them to whitewash. As Boy Scouts, we did burn some grassland, nearly derail a train. In fact, quite near the ride route in both cases. I do know where a lot of the caves are, and the trout (Grady). Perhaps, on the ride, I can show you where the man with the webbed feet was murdered, two places where I totaled Chevrolets, the only place in town a Sunbeam Tiger ever parked, the best place to learn tennis, the oldest Protestant church in the territories, iab's Red Rooster, and where a man from Chicago paid me $25 to oil his car door hinges (an actual AAA service call). I can show you where an outlaw motorcycle club "borrowed" a friend's car for some hill-climbing, and then gave it back, undamaged (do not crash their parties), and where I caught a cousin with a cane pole and a nightcrawler. We had to walk about a mile to a gas station to get the hook out. I trailed him with the pole and line, because we never thought to cut the line. He got even by stealing my girlfriend in high school.
    Was it George Stauffer's Sunbeam? If so, there is a decent chance I worked on it.

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    Sure sounds like fun! I'm looking for a bike box since I can't face doing the drive. I'm at zero vacation since I just switched jobs and with my folks in the hinterlands of NE Iowa and my wife's folks in JDT's hometown, I've done this drive way too many times already.


    Man with webbed feet.....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by svtmike View Post
    After the ride I'm sure we won't care how the cake is decorated. It's not in the road forum, I was just coming in here to figure out what to do with the Raleigh Grand Prix frame I recently acquired. I saw the thread title and knew it had to be a Dairyland Dare thread.

    I've decided to do the hipster thing to the Raleigh so I can work on my spin. But it will have taught me how to take off stuck crank cotters, unbend the rear triangle to correct the spacing, check the dropout alignment, and deal with Raleigh's unique bottom bracket size and threading. It's been repainted poorly at least once so I'm also going to strip it down and paint it.

    Ultimately I want to find a nice vintage road bike that I can functionally restore and leave at my dad's place in the North Woods so I don't have to shlep my main bike up there every time I go.
    Ah, you're one of us, after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by iab View Post
    Was it George Stauffer's Sunbeam? If so, there is a decent chance I worked on it.
    I'm pretty sure it was orange. You don't forget the only Sunbeam you've ever seen. I was 11.
    He worked for the Milwaukee Journal. He was surprised I knew what his car was, and asked me where I lived.
    I pointed out a house up the road and moved on. He drove there and when I got home hours later, I was a paperboy.

    It was a convertible, he was young, well-dressed, and had a beautiful woman with him.
    It was like a spaceship dropped a movie star into Mayberry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iowegian View Post
    Man with webbed feet.....?
    Found beaten to death in an old farmhouse, with another man, both completely unknown. Became the topic for wild rumors, speculation, and general entertainment for months. The webbed toes, some kind of genetic thing, became the clue to his identity and led to the solving of the crime. Before that, drugs were from Rexall, and after that, drugs as a source of crime became real for the first time. The case actually made True Detective magazine.

    Like I said, cross Northern Exposure with Mayberry RFD, and you pretty much had Mineral Point in the 60's.

    I grew up thinking "yah" meant "yes," but now I realize it meant "I'm thinking..," said with a nod of the head, and always followed up by some statement of supposed fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
    I've communicated with Tony's wife, and they have a group eating from 12:30 to 2:00, but nothing major. I told her since we'd be riding different distances at different times, it may just be best if we all know to show up, and if we need space, we'll work it out then.

    So, recap to date:

    Friday, August 10:
    Early check-in, if possible at 3 Lands End, Dodgeville, and people get rooms, etc.

    Dinner in Mineral Point, tentatively the volunteer fire dept, home-cooked carbs.
    Get acquainted in a relaxed atmosphere. There should be lots of bikes around.

    Last minute bike-checkups if anyone wants, good time to lube the chain.
    Also good to get a fresh set of eyes on your bike, in case you missed something.
    Emergency repairs and drop off anything you want on our SAG vehicle.
    Coordinate who's doing what and where to meet the next day.

    Arrange car pools, if needed.

    Saturday, August 11:
    Arrive at 3 Lands End, get ready to roll off. Coordinate with each other if needed.
    Last-minute drop-offs for the SAG,..... ** photo op! **
    Arrange another rest stop for us if needed...Plenty of room in the SAG for a cooler, snacks.

    Ride like the mature individuals we purport to be. Have fun and see some cool stuff.
    Take some pictures, see the sights, and enjoy the ride with folks you only see on line...

    Afterwards, head to Mineral Point, a whopping 7 minutes away, to Tony's Tap.
    Recover, Replenish, and lie about the ride....
    maybe some more photos!
    Elect a scribe to exaggerate our heroic exploits to BF C&V.

    If some people have checked out of rooms, but need showers before heading home, let me know...

    Collect the stuff you left with the SAG vehicle. Anything valuable left behind, I'll sell it back-cheap.

    Realize that time is just too short, and plan for another one, taking an extra day off....!
    This sounds like an awesome ride; I would love nothing more than to be part of the fun with you all and my best bud Tom (E_merlin). Only issue is my body is in repair mode from surgery last week. I don't belive there is any way that I could be ready for such a ride, but if you all are willing I would love to join you all at Tony's to show my surpport and enjoy good conversation!

    Added Thought:
    I know that someone, who will remain nameless, would like to know if Tony's has gluten free Beer available?
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    Well, I just bit the bullet and paid my admission. Looks like I have to start actually riding my bikes, instead of just staring at them with a beer in my hand. That, and I'll have to dig the abacus out of the attic so that I can start counting teeth on my cogs and rings, and performing the necessary trigonometry to calculate gear inches and rations, etc. Here in the flatlands of Chicago we generally just climb on our bikes and ride ....
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    FYI, I'm planing on either the 100 or 150k. Probably the 150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hodgykins View Post
    This sounds like an awesome ride; I would love nothing more than to be part of the fun with you all and my best bud Tom (E_merlin). Only issue is my body is in repair mode from surgery last week. I don't belive there is any way that I could be ready for such a ride, but if you all are willing I would love to join you all at Tony's to show my surpport and enjoy good conversation!

    Added Thought:
    I know that someone, who will remain nameless, would like to know if Tony's has gluten free Beer available?
    I'll check on the gluten free beer. If not, I'll find some, and of course you're welcome.
    Heal yourself, and feel free to join us.

    During the ride, you can also have fun with our small but growing C&V support staff.

    And....Welcome to the forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by bibliobob View Post
    Well, I just bit the bullet and paid my admission. Looks like I have to start actually riding my bikes, instead of just staring at them with a beer in my hand. That, and I'll have to dig the abacus out of the attic so that I can start counting teeth on my cogs and rings, and performing the necessary trigonometry to calculate gear inches and rations, etc. ....
    I can bring you a chart in large, easy to read print.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
    I can bring you a chart in large, easy to read print.
    1970 called. They want their printing press back.




    My boy, all of 9 years, is going to write me a gear-inch app. I know they already exist, but who really cares. He needs to start small before he becomes the next Zuckerberg. Then I retire and blow way too much cash on bikes.


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    ^ There you go! Any luck on finding a 24T cog (or freewheel)?

    I know I've been lurking and interested in this ride. I won't be able to make it this year. If you guys do this again next year, my brother in St. Paul and I are planning on doing this. We would both love to meet all of you, and have a nice little ride.

    Though I think I have met you iab, at the C&V fall ride on the Fox River.

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    There are now 2 good donor freewheels on ebay that have a 24 large cog I can could use. Also, i think (my Italian sucks) the seller who sent me the wrong freewheel, 16/18/20, sent me the right one, 18/21/24, immediately instead of waiting for the return of the wrong one. I am fairly confident I will have a 24. And my knees thank me.

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    So for the DD, I have officially signed up for the 100.

    God only knows what I'll ride.

    I am sure something will come up with a triple.

    If not, I'll provide plenty of yucks for the attendees.

    As for punishment for this folly, I just signed up for the Minnesota Rusty Ride.

    100 miles on a mtb. Probably ride a Voodoo on that one.

    Yep, a nice hard tail.

    That should feel dandy after a hundo!

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    100 miles or k? I can't hang with iab for 250, but figure I should hang with you or RT for either 150 or 100. Will get as many miLes in the legs as possible but am on call for work about half the time and tied to the car
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    Quote Originally Posted by bibliobob View Post
    100 miles or k? I can't hang with iab for 250, but figure I should hang with you or RT for either 150 or 100. Will get as many miLes in the legs as possible but am on call for work about half the time and tied to the car
    Bob,

    No worries.

    I'll do a 100k at the DD and save the hundo for the next weekend.

    This is not a race and it's all good by me.

    I can't wait to meet you guys.

    Besides, Robbie has met me.

    He knows I'm no spring chicken.

    My accommodations took an interesting turn when my wife decided she wanted to visit friends in Dubuque, so I am staying at the Super 8 in Darlington.

    Looks to be about 20 miles from Mineral Springs and a little closer to Dubuque.

    A very small compromise as I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gomango View Post
    Bob,
    No worries.
    My accommodations took an interesting turn when my wife decided she wanted to visit friends in Dubuque, so I am staying at the Super 8 in Darlington. Looks to be about 20 miles from Mineral Springs and a little closer to Dubuque.

    A very small compromise as I see it.
    13 miles away, via Hwy 23, from Mineral Point, and if you take the R turn in MP, 8 miles to Land's End.
    Good choice, because she can shoot straight across the bottom of the state to Dubuque, where she can be in 3 states in 3 minutes. Belmont would be about the same, newer and 5 miles closer to each....

    (Mineral Springs was the local beer. The springs flowed from a rock formation, so the good Cornish stonemasons built a brewery over it. Pragmatic fellows, prioritized in a fine way)

    I'm torn between my urge to do the 100K and be a more thorough host, or do the 150k and ride to MP from Dodgeville and make it 100 miles. My fear is I park myself at Tony's, early, and then fall off my chair before it's over. Wouldn't be the first time he drove me home, but the 1200 miles the next day would be brutal.

    OK, some more things are clear..at present:

    Friday night is home cooking, at the fire dept, provided by my sister and mom and probably a niece or two.
    Donations go to her ingredients and the fire dept.

    C&V SAG vehicle will be there, and you can load parts, tools, etc. Also by a fireman.
    It will be an S10 pickup, and available to us via cell phone. You'll have to wrench your own bike...

    Photographer on Friday night, but we take our own on Sat morning (she's not getting up at 4:30 for us).
    Photographer on the route, most likely in the SAG truck, so she can shoot from the bed. And at Tony's.

    A second support vehicle may likely be available, with snacks and drinks, for "tweener" rest stops for us.
    At my age, any available stops between the official ones are welcome, and used, after 50 miles or so.
    That vehicle may well have a doctor on board, and nothing that happens to us would phase him.

    Coordinator (cat herder) to keep track of where we are, who's done and who will be at Tony's. I don't want anyone finishing alone, unless it's early, but I'll try to have a contact person at the finish points. I think I've got an engineer who will help us coordinate our 50/100/150/200 choices. If she agrees, I think she'll be a good contact point and herder to Tony's, keep us updated on who is where, etc. If she spends too much time at Tony's, too early, she and I will end up singing some very bad Irish songs very off key. We were born the same day to Irish sisters, and it went downhill from there.

    There could be some people whose sole purpose that day is to embarass me. I can't control that, a lot of them owe me. Watch out for a guy named Kevin.
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    Awesome!

    Will we be singing traditional Whiskey in the Jar, or the Thin Lizzy version? Pogues or Clancy Brothers ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bibliobob View Post
    Awesome!

    Will we be singing traditional Whiskey in the Jar, or the Thin Lizzy version? Pogues or Clancy Brothers ?
    All choices are spot on.

    For gosh sakes, no video please.

    The boys are avid YouTube consumers.

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    Holy crap! I'm in deep trouble (or in other words, let the sandbagging begin )

    Went for my first hard ride since May. As many of you know, I had (and still have) bronchitis. I'm coughing 5 weeks later but at least my airway isn't shut off for 20 seconds after a coughing fit. Then I dumped my commuter 2 weeks ago. The road rash is healing well as are my shoulder and ribs. But they are still sore and probably will be for another 2-4 weeks. Us older folks need time to heal.

    Anyhow, I did a a hair less under 100k with 3 short but very steep hills at the start and end (same hills) in about 3:20. My bailout is 49 gear inches as I'll have 46 for my setup for the DD. At the top of the last hill, I literally needed to stop and take a knee as I felt the imminent return of breakfast. I limped the last 3 miles home.

    When I got home, the temp was 87 on the north side of my house, under a tree. Somehow I suspect Mineral Point in August will be similar.

    5 weeks and counting folks.

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    If it's 87 deg and low humidity in August, I'll be more than happy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iab View Post
    Holy crap! I'm in deep trouble (or in other words, let the sandbagging begin )

    Went for my first hard ride since May. As many of you know, I had (and still have) bronchitis. I'm coughing 5 weeks later but at least my airway isn't shut off for 20 seconds after a coughing fit. Then I dumped my commuter 2 weeks ago. The road rash is healing well as are my shoulder and ribs. But they are still sore and probably will be for another 2-4 weeks. Us older folks need time to heal.

    Anyhow, I did a a hair less under 100k with 3 short but very steep hills at the start and end (same hills) in about 3:20. My bailout is 49 gear inches as I'll have 46 for my setup for the DD. At the top of the last hill, I literally needed to stop and take a knee as I felt the imminent return of breakfast. I limped the last 3 miles home.

    When I got home, the temp was 87 on the north side of my house, under a tree. Somehow I suspect Mineral Point in August will be similar.

    5 weeks and counting folks.
    I have been looking for decent hills in the Twin Cities and they are in short supply.

    Riding down to Hastings today from St. Paul and the southern Metro has some doozies.

    Off to New Richmond, Wi. tomorrow to the in laws dairy farm. There some whoppers on the way and it's about sixty miles or so each way.

    I just have to keep piling on the miles and I should be fine.

    Good luck with the healing process iab!

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    No problem, iab. After watching the TdF, I'm going to happy to finish without internal bleeding.

    Folks, I'll need a head count, with details, for logistics.
    We have people arriving and departing, according to their schedules, to/from the area, at different times.
    We have people rolling out, according to the length of ride and anticipation of the terrain, at different times.
    We have people who will be finishing, according to the length of ride and pace, at different times.
    We have people with specific SAG needs, be it mechanical or nutritional or fluids.
    No worries.

    Friday night is shaping up well, mainly because I'm letting my sister and cousin handle it.
    A-Home cooked food at the fire station. I anticipate starting at 6 and until.
    B-Our SAG vehicle will be there. Bring your tires/tubes/tools/chains/jet fuel, etc.
    C-Our SAG vehicle will also be able to carry our supplemental nutritional needs/fluids/Geritol, etc.
    D-Space to do last-minute tweaking of our bikes, ogle others.
    E-Synchronize cell #'s with the SAG and the after-ride coordinator (cat-herder).
    F-Photos, arrange photos during the ride, and post-ride.
    G-Coordinate anything else that needs to be done.

    Saturday morning, I think we can meet up as needed.
    A-I'll be there at 5 am or so. Last minute photos in warrior costumes.
    B-Bid a good sendoff to iab with something appropriate or embarassing at 6 am.
    C-Roll off on our own agendas as appropriate

    Saturday during the ride.
    A-Event SAG, Event stops, Event provisions are primary.
    B-Our SAG, our provisions, etc are supplementary, but will be arranged.
    C-Cell phone coordination as needed.
    D-Contact the cat-herder with ETA's, problems, changes.
    E-Enjoy the ride and each other's company due to good support.

    Post-ride on Saturday.
    A-Tony's Tap in Mineral Point is the unofficial "C&V host."
    B-Early finishers can rest/shower/etc prior.
    C-Early departers for home can help get things established there.
    D-The trick will be to be able to overlap as many of us as possible at Tony's.
    (This is always the part I regret the most about a week later)
    E-Make arrangements to get everyone safely en route home.

    So, I'll request the following, so I can have people in place to help you.
    1-Confirmation you're coming, by PM and also here. Redundancy helps.
    2-An ETA if you want to come to the dinner on Friday, so I can time things. By PM.
    3-Anticipated ride length (not that necessary, we can all "roll" with the punches.
    4-SAG equipment needs. Tools, spares, air, disposables.
    5-SAG physical needs. Snacks, Rx, fluids, etc. There are some "gaps" in the event in high-mid miles.
    6-Requests (photos, information, email addresses, lodging, spare rooms, etc, etc.)

    PM me with anything you want to know, feel I need to know, or feel we can help with.
    The more we can remove all inhibitions, concerns, and obstacles, the more we can enjoy the ride.

    My goal is to have fun at the ride. 90% of that involves people, not a bike and a road.
    OK, I'll admit, I raise my legs and whoop it up on downhills, but not every single one.

    If I have to bring out the tarantula, I will. Some of you know of which I speak.
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    I just signed up. (Hope I don't regret this...)

    1. I am coming.
    2. see PM. I don't anticipate being there before 7pm.
    3. 100km.
    4. Hopefully nothing unusual. I plan to ride my '82 Masi which is fairly straightforward mechanically. It does have tubulars. I'll bring a spare, and a couple small tools.
    5. Hopefully nothing. With five rest stops in 100km I should be okay.
    6. A pallet on the floor Friday night would be great. If nothing's available, I'm happy to bunk in my car.

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    1. I'm in.
    2. Can be there by 3pm. Prefer dinner at/after 6pm.
    3. 200k
    4. I'll have everything in my small canvas Team Kudzu bag.
    5. Same as 4.
    6. Confirm the addresses of the firehouse & Tony's please

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    OK, update:

    Skip,
    you've got a place to stay...
    ...same place I'm staying. Update refers to that: we have 2 spare bedrooms and a basement with a futon bed.
    So, I'm in one, Skip has one, and we have room for another person, or even two, as the basement is big and we have a roll-away, too. My sister also has a spare room, as does a cousin in town, so don't let lodging be an issue.

    iab,
    the Fire Dept is half-way up Doty St, but I can't find an address.
    Use 305 Doty St, Mineral Point, WI 53565, and you'll be 300' away.
    http://www.mpfd.net/
    The patch was designed after the explosion and fire (during a Packer game) when I was a kid.
    The idea came from an Etch-a-Sketch drawing some kid was doing of the fire house, on fire,
    the irony of which stuck on the kid. Someone noticed the Etch-a-Sketch and the patch was born.


    Tony's Tap is at 10 Commerce St, Mineral Point, WI 53565.
    http://tonystap.com/ Ralph Pittz, and for years now, his son Tony, simply were and are some of the best owners of a tavern, bar, or nightclub you can imagine. My parents ate many a Friday night meal at Ralph's establishment, and if I lived in Mineral Point, I'm sure Tony's would be my go-to spot. Tony made it from Fennimore to Madison in 1 hour, on back roads, which is really something if you were in the car for that 100 miles.

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    You still planning on bunking and schlepping me, Robbie?

    As stated above, I'm in!
    I grow old, I grow old. I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

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