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    32 is on the hefty side. Does that include racks? Most of the decent mtbs from that time were 30 pounds. Shedding weight from there was relatively easy.

    The Panaracers are on the heavy side for that size tire. The Panaracer High Road V weighs in at 607 grams each. Same size Nashbar Streetwise weighs 430 grams and the Nashbar 1.25 inch slicks weigh 346 grams each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    32 is really hefty. Does that include racks? Most of the decent mtbs from that time were 30 pounds. Shedding weight from there was relatively easy.

    The Panaracers are on the heavy side for that size tire. The Panaracer High Road V weighs in at 607 grams each. Same size Nashbar Streetwise weighs 430 grams and the Nashbar 1.25 inch slicks weigh 346 grams each.
    That is 32 pounds with rear rack, full front and rear fenders with stays (the fenders are big and strong and heavy plastic), and a cheap small all in one pannier setup.

    I'm not interested in going any smaller on the tires than 1.5, I have cross and road bikes if i want a skinny tire bike. My tires are in great shape.

    Components are alloy Sugino triple crankset with alloy rings, Deore derailleurs, Suntour barcons, Scott alloy drops, Shimano cantis, and a typical sealed BB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobotech View Post
    That is 32 pounds with rear rack, full front and rear fenders with stays (the fenders are big and strong and heavy plastic), and a cheap small all in one pannier setup.

    I'm not interested in going any smaller on the tires than 1.5, I have cross and road bikes if i want a skinny tire bike. My tires are in great shape.

    Components are alloy Sugino triple crankset with alloy rings, Deore derailleurs, Suntour barcons, Scott alloy drops, Shimano cantis, and a typical sealed BB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    32 is on the hefty side. Does that include racks? Most of the decent mtbs from that time were 30 pounds. Shedding weight from there was relatively easy.

    The Panaracers are on the heavy side for that size tire. The Panaracer High Road V weighs in at 607 grams each. Same size Nashbar Streetwise weighs 430 grams and the Nashbar 1.25 inch slicks weigh 346 grams each.
    My 1.75 Panaracer Tservs weigh in at 450 g each. I'm not interested in anything narrower and for that weight, I'll take them.

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    Just built this the other day. 1994 Specialized Rockhopper Comp. I plan on going camping on my bike this summer and had to come up with something that could carry all the supplies.








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    Explored some logging roads on the Rocky Mountain, graciously supplied to me by Mr Sixty Fiver.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paramount1973 View Post
    My 1.75 Panaracer Tservs weigh in at 450 g each. I'm not interested in anything narrower and for that weight, I'll take them.
    Kind of missed the point, if the goal is to shed weight on an existing bike, then pedals, tires, saddle, and wheels are the primary area of attack. Add replacing any other parts that could be steel (a lot of mtb stems are steel) with alloy.

    In the end of my own weight weenie challenge, I ended up adding back some weight to get the pedals and saddle I prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamplight View Post
    Explored some logging roads on the Rocky Mountain, graciously supplied to me by Mr Sixty Fiver.


    Love those pics!!! WOW.

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    Here is my Bianchi Osprey built up with drop bars:
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    Finally got my 1989 finished. Bike originally came with FIVE sets of bottle cage mounts (one on the stem, so the dirt drop stem reduced the bike to only four), they must have been after a record on that one. Its one size smaller than my green Cimarron, so we will have to see how this works out. Put on a set of Mavic/Phil Wood hubs on this one. I really like the decal graphics on the 1989, much better than my 1987. I also like the later Deore parts. And yes, the chrome fork is original.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamplight View Post
    Explored some logging roads on the Rocky Mountain, graciously supplied to me by Mr Sixty Fiver.
    I got out and about on my drop-bar conversion last Friday. Right now the only way to get to this spot is via bike trails. Come September there will be a trailhead off the main road a short walk from here. (I tried to get on the trails at the new trailhead, but the construction foreman shooed me away and I had to go around the other way).



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    Nice Cimmaron, Bill. It looks tasty, like a watermelon. I would never think to pair those colors, but it works well. Mike

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    "Watermelon", I think that name will stick. The tape is Nashbar brand, they call it "radio-active", the housing is green from Niagara, they sell in a 50 foot roll.

    I usually pick a contrasting color from the decal work. But with silver/gray decals, that was not going to work for me. That left black or the green.

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    +1 Bill, that color combo just pops. I never would have imagined either, but the Cim looks great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    Kind of missed the point, if the goal is to shed weight on an existing bike, then pedals, tires, saddle, and wheels are the primary area of attack. Add replacing any other parts that could be steel (a lot of mtb stems are steel) with alloy.

    In the end of my own weight weenie challenge, I ended up adding back some weight to get the pedals and saddle I prefer.
    My point was that Tservs are not exactly heavy for higher volume tires. In my case, I went from cheap ~900 gm mountain bike tires to much lighter and faster rolling tires. To get lighter than the Tservs means going to smaller diameter slicks. I'd rather have my poor man's 650b setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_heineken View Post
    Here is my Bianchi Osprey built up with drop bars:
    I see you needed a little something to offset the increased aerodynamics of the drop bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    Finally got my 1989 finished. Bike originally came with FIVE sets of bottle cage mounts (one on the stem, so the dirt drop stem reduced the bike to only four), they must have been after a record on that one. Its one size smaller than my green Cimarron, so we will have to see how this works out. Put on a set of Mavic/Phil Wood hubs on this one. I really like the decal graphics on the 1989, much better than my 1987. I also like the later Deore parts. And yes, the chrome fork is original.
    Both Cimarrons look great. Nice work.

    My red 23" 1987 Cimarron has the chrome fork as well.
    I am really enjoying that bike.
    I was able to just barely fit 2.3 Michelin Pilot Sport tires which provide
    a seriously cushy ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    I got out and about on my drop-bar conversion last Friday. Right now the only way to get to this spot is via bike trails. Come September there will be a trailhead off the main road a short walk from here. (I tried to get on the trails at the new trailhead, but the construction foreman shooed me away and I had to go around the other way).
    Doohickie, Nice pictures.
    That looks like a very nice area. Where is that located?

    Is that your Nishiki hybrid you have in the pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrome Molly View Post
    I see you needed a little something to offset the increased aerodynamics of the drop bars.
    Yeah, a lemon tree!
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    @ Doohickie, great scenic photos! What bars are you running? They look like they may be shallow drops?

    Note: I'm just waiting for a vintage size 50-ish MTB to be available so I, too, can post here. I love this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paramount1973 View Post
    My point was that Tservs are not exactly heavy for higher volume tires. In my case, I went from cheap ~900 gm mountain bike tires to much lighter and faster rolling tires. To get lighter than the Tservs means going to smaller diameter slicks. I'd rather have my poor man's 650b setup.
    400 gram tires are good. Its the porky 700 to 800 gram tires that really shed the weight. FWIW, I put 430 gram tires on my last build, as the 1.25 inch slicks are over the top for me as well.

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    Speaking of lightweight tires.....

    Pricepoint.com is clearing 3 models of Vee Rubber 26x2.10" tire for only $9.98 each! Normally sold around $30+.
    If you need a full-sized dirt tire for your riding conditions, these are a great deal!

    They are all kevlar folding bead tires, 120 TPI, dual compound for wear and traction, and weigh in at 540-560 grams.

    I have a pair of Vee Rubber 'Flying Vs' that were supplied to me as samples from Vee Rubber for testing at work. Same casing and size, but a CX tread. I've been riding them on my Giant Smurf. All I can say is they are impressive tires. Light, fast, durable and lot's of traction. The suppleness of the casing soaked up the bumps. They've survived some abusive conditions that I thought the sidewalls would have torn open.

    I have no association with the brand, just won over by the quality and performance of their high TPI offerings.

    Vee Rubber Trax 26x2.10 Folding Tire | Vee Rubber | Brand | www.PricePoint.com
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    Here's my beast on this mornings ride. I just finished doing the wiring for my dynamo lights, (Supernova E3 Pro2, and E3 tail light) and am patiently waiting for my front wheel to arrive from Peter White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNG View Post
    Speaking of lightweight tires.....

    Pricepoint.com is clearing 3 models of Vee Rubber 26x2.10" tire for only $9.98 each! Normally sold around $30+.
    If you need a full-sized dirt tire for your riding conditions, these are a great deal!

    They are all kevlar folding bead tires, 120 TPI, dual compound for wear and traction, and weigh in at 540-560 grams.

    I have a pair of Vee Rubber 'Flying Vs' that were supplied to me as samples from Vee Rubber for testing at work. Same casing and size, but a CX tread. I've been riding them on my Giant Smurf. All I can say is they are impressive tires. Light, fast, durable and lot's of traction. The suppleness of the casing soaked up the bumps. They've survived some abusive conditions that I thought the sidewalls would have torn open.

    I have no association with the brand, just won over by the quality and performance of their high TPI offerings.

    Vee Rubber Trax 26x2.10 Folding Tire | Vee Rubber | Brand | www.PricePoint.com
    Hmmm interesting. I've only tried Vee's lowend rubber. They're still a little heavy for my taste, but not bad. I miss the good ol' days when these were still around. So light, around 475 g, and fast rolling!

    IRC Mythos XC II Racing Kevlar Folding Tire | IRC | Brand | www.PricePoint.com

    Without that choice I dunno what I'm gonna do for cheap, light knobbies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
    Hmmm interesting. I've only tried Vee's lowend rubber. They're still a little heavy for my taste, but not bad. I miss the good ol' days when these were still around. So light, around 475 g, and fast rolling!

    IRC Mythos XC II Racing Kevlar Folding Tire | IRC | Brand | www.PricePoint.com

    Without that choice I dunno what I'm gonna do for cheap, light knobbies.
    Mythos....nice tire, I ran those on my GT mtb.

    Vee Rubber recruited away Kenda's tire designer responsible for their very successful V8, Vx, etc series of mtb tires. The 120 TPI offerings are essentially twins.
    These have a wonderful ride with a rigid-hardtail mtb.
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