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    Coming from you guys, that's high praise - I've seen your bikes. Thanks.

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    +2 I agree with kehomer


    good looking ride nicely done

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    Working on this one at the moment. Will be stripped, polished, tubeless, and hollow pin chain. It's about 24 lbs. 13 ounces as it sits. Not too shabby for a big frame bike, and it's going to be even lighter Part of the low current weight, is a Titanium spindle Specialized bottom bracket, with alloy cups and cartridge bearings. Shooting for a full polish and new decals.This is only the beginning on the manual labor.,,,,BD





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    Unfortunately, the very cool beefy looking seatpost clamp is also very heavy. It may stay though, since it compliments the double bolt on the stem so well.,,,,BD
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    I get what you're saying about the double bolt thing but I would pick up a DKG non-quick release collar to save weight or a DKG Flip-Lock for a quick release. DKG made the original Salsa Flip-Off quick release seat collars as well as doing work for WTB (can you say Roller Cam brakes?), Fisher (can you say RS-1? w/ his buddy Mert), Koski (can you say Koski fork?), and others back in the day. Plus DKG is still an independent guy, Dave Garoutte, up in Marin County. Dave makes the coolest Mag Light clamp, his CNC designs are timeless... he even has a museum of mountain bike and motorcycle stuff he has done with the names already listed plus Mert Lawwill.

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    Yeah, I'm a fan of Dave's work, I have his seat collars, his Strong Arm brake booster, and his Shift-Ease shift pod mounts on a few of my bikes... no one to this day 20 years later has made any better designs!

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    The polished look can be amazing! I have a '93 Cannondale M500 that I want to do the same thing. Here is my motivation...

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    Mine was an M500, 92 though I think? Cookie dough paint with goldenrod and green graphics. Yuck, lol! It's the main reason why I am stripping it.

    Sorry that DKG clamp may be the coolest thing on earth, but it doesn't do it for me unfortunately.


    The original paint...ugggh.. Don't worry, it looks much better in pictures. There was a huge paint scrape on the other side of the down tube. Those handlebars, stem, shifters, etc.. weighed about 4-5 pounds!?

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    Hey Bikedued,

    Did your '92 M500 come with the Cannondale Force 40 Plus cantilever brakes? I'm not seeing them on your M500 but you could have removed them. My '93 M500 came with Force 40 Plus brakes. The best that I can tell Force 40 Plus cantilever brakes are mentioned in the 1991 catalog as a problem solver for their first full suspension frames. I'm just curious if the '92 came stock with Force 40 Plus or did that start in '93 like mine.

    From the 1991 Cannondale catalog (thanks MOMBAT):

    Rear suspension designs always made mounting cantilever brakes difficult so Cannondale came up with the "Force 40" brake routing. The name came from the 40% increase in stopping power and eliminated the need for a cable stop on the frame.

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    It came with some cheesy looking black canti's. Nothing special, and certainly nothing like that?,,,,BD


    A little more buffing, machine this time. I need to just tear it down and finish it out. I will keep it together another week or so, to get another weekend ride in. It rides that well! Like a big cushy road bike. None of the sluggish heavy feel I really noticed on my Schwinn Sierra drop bar build. It feels solid, light, and agile.



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    Finally got my rigid fork in.................

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikesChevelle View Post
    Finally got my rigid fork in.................


    Very nice,

    You can use that for virtually anything.

    Beic.

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    The go to Swiss Army knife...I mean bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikesChevelle View Post
    Finally got my rigid fork in.................

    STUNNING! That brake hood position has me squirming, though. If it works it works, I guess. NICE looking bike!,,,,BD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikedued View Post
    STUNNING! That brake hood position has me squirming, though. If it works it works, I guess. NICE looking bike!,,,,BD
    To high?

    The bike has a bit more reach than what fits me to up they came
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    This is an interesting concept to me. I have a 1994 DB Topanga that I may proceed with. It would have to be as budget conscious as possible. The only thing I am unsure of is shifter conversion; I am a beginner. What would be compatible with the Alivio setup that this bike has?

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    Your best bet would be friction barcons
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    Here's my 1992ish Nishiki Katmandu hybrid that has had drop bars for a couple of years now. I took a little ride through the woods this morning. This is my everyday commuter bike. 700x42 Continental tires fit with fenders. 700x50 big apples just barely rubbed the stays without fenders.

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    I want to do this with my Reflex, but my friends say I would be stupid to molest this rare bike. What do you think? Raised stem, drop bars, white bar tape.............



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    ^ if it's all original i might be hesitant to do it especially if it's just for an experiment
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFisher View Post
    This is an interesting concept to me. I have a 1994 DB Topanga that I may proceed with. It would have to be as budget conscious as possible. The only thing I am unsure of is shifter conversion; I am a beginner. What would be compatible with the Alivio setup that this bike has?
    Just about every indexed Shimano shifter ever made, that is non Dura Ace?,,,,BD
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    A number of folks have mentioned the fairly light weights of their mtb's converted to drop bar machines.

    Anyone's build turn out to be quite a tank?

    I just finished one yesterday, a mid 80's Univega Rover Sport. Registering 31.7 on the scale.
    It is straight gauge chromoly and has super heavy 26x2.35 1100g's each tires.

    I will post some pics later.
    This is about the 8th vintage mtb frame I have bought & I knew it would be heavier but I could not resist the allure
    of an all chrome mtb frame.

    I hope to lighten it up weight wise over time if I like how it rides, only been 3 miles so for.
    Gonna go ride it some more now in the heat.

    Also you ever had a build that seems to fight you on about every turn?
    This one did that but I finally got it done.

    Will post pics soon.
    Safe pedaling.

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    A number of folks have mentioned the fairly light weights of their mtb's converted to drop bar machines.

    Anyone's build turn out to be quite a tank?

    I just finished one yesterday, a mid 80's Univega Rover Sport. Registering 31.7 on the scale.
    It is straight gauge chromoly and has super heavy 26x2.35 1100g's each tires.

    I will post some pics later.
    This is about the 8th vintage mtb frame I have bought & I knew it would be heavier but I could not resist the allure
    of an all chrome mtb frame.

    I hope to lighten it up weight wise over time if I like how it rides, only been 3 miles so for.
    Gonna go ride it some more now in the heat.

    Also you ever had a build that seems to fight you on about every turn?
    This one did that but I finally got it done.

    Will post pics soon. For my likes I think it looks pretty decent. Just wish it weighed about 8 lbs less.
    Safe pedaling.

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    My Cascade is no lightweight and think she is 31 pounds with the full set of racks and fenders.

    My rigid mtb (Diamondback Apex) is just under 25 pounds and the hardtail (Rocky Mountain Blizzard) is close to that as well.

    The Moulden is just under 25 pounds... the frame and fork are as light as any steel road frame.

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    Haven't weighed it, but the Nishiki I'm rebuilding feels extremely heavy...the bare frame is noticeably heavier than my bare Raleigh Sports frame, and they're otherwise about the same size.
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