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    @droy45: If you are only running one chainring on the front, you can remove the large one and replace the chainring bolts with shorter ones that are commonly used for BMX:http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...2e26311f8bc35a. I'm sure there are cheaper out there, but I'm too lazy to hunt them down. Anyway, it will neaten up the look and save some weight, if that matters to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likebike23 View Post
    @droy45: If you are only running one chainring on the front, you can remove the large one and replace the chainring bolts with shorter ones that are commonly used for BMX:http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...2e26311f8bc35a. I'm sure there are cheaper out there, but I'm too lazy to hunt them down. Anyway, it will neaten up the look and save some weight, if that matters to you.
    Yeah, cool, thanks. I may look into doing that. I thought of it at first but the nice finish and logo on the large ring looked good so I thought to leave it for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RunningBulldog View Post
    She's rideable! Shaved 7 minutes off my loop this morning. Check out the fly shifter levers... lolAttachment 331966Attachment 331967
    Very attractive and very ingenious! Way to go.

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    I purchased the Miyata Terra Runner, upgraded to Deore XT, during the last week of June and finally have had time to complete the conversion. It's a budget job, $167 total investment, including initial purchase of the bike, new tires, tubes, cables, housing, bar tape, Tektro RL340 levers, stem, and used handlebars, barcons and saddle. The cable braze on was busted, so WRK101 suggested the repair clamp. Cobrabyte provided the nice Avocet on a swap. The handlebars and barcons were out of a $9 box 'o parts I bought in 2011, which included a Huret Jubilee RD. The Panaracer High Road V's are only $10/ea. A plush ride for sure. And I have a nice set of Deore or XT shifters leftover.

    I imagine it's like cobbling together my own Miyata LHTR (Long Haul Terra Runner) for about 10% of a new LHT?





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    Pink tape looks great.

    interestin how it has the sloping tt yet is lugged

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    What's your 2 sentence review of that stem on the terra runner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Chicago View Post
    Pink tape looks great.

    interestin how it has the sloping tt yet is lugged
    Thanks, I took a bit of a risk on the bubble gum tape, but it works well with the mint green.
    Look at the fork clearance from both the tire and the frame.

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    What's your 2 sentence review of that stem on the terra runner?
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    Love it, oddjob! Looks badass.

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    Great looking bike oddjob! The pink tape goes well with the decals on the frame, a very 80's look. That stem is cool too, the detachable faceplate is convenient.

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    I love what you've done with the Terra Runner, Oddjob. The Avocet saddle looks good there, and I'm sure it rides great. They all do. Saving one for my conversion, but it keeps getting put off. Doing a Cannondale MTB modernization right now, then maybe .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrome Molly View Post
    What's your 2 sentence review of that stem on the terra runner?
    What kind of stem is it. I really like it. Kind of reminds me of a BMX stem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs1 View Post
    What kind of stem is it. I really like it. Kind of reminds me of a BMX stem.
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    I am thinking of getting one of those for my High Sierra conversion, it is a great looking stem for genre it's in. Some stems of that design school are just fugly, but that one? Decent!,,,,BD
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    Sold out!? Arrrgh...,,,,BD
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    Quick question for you gurus who have converted these bikes before, if I wanted to correct the steering to less twitchy on my conversion would I go for a different fork or a different stem, or is both?
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    It's just physics. Longer the stem, the twitchier it gets. Think leverage or how much faster the outer part of a wheel spins on axis than it does at the center. Narrower handlebars too.

    Fork could solve the issue, but is at least 2X-3X more costly than a stem change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikedued View Post
    I am thinking of getting one of those for my High Sierra conversion, it is a great looking stem for genre it's in. Some stems of that design school are just fugly, but that one? Decent!,,,,BD
    I barely want to sell a flip with an adjustable stem and have several to prove that I haven't. I have a whole milk crate full of vintage first class quills, Cinelli, 3TTT, Nitto, SR, etc., but they're all road oriented, so the bars would be too low. Also, have several vintage BMX stems, but they are fugly as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
    It's just physics. Longer the stem, the twitchier it gets.
    It's usually the opposite for me. Shorter stem means more wheel turn for the same amount of bar movement. Shorter stem often means less weight on front wheel, which can "quicken" steering.

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    Narrower handlebars too.
    Yes.
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    Thanks for the input you two, I'll see if I can track down a correct stem first.
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    Are you going for a more roadified machine for running dirt roads or drop bar serious trail-riding bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by likebike23 View Post
    Great looking bike oddjob! The pink tape goes well with the decals on the frame, a very 80's look. That stem is cool too, the detachable faceplate is convenient.
    +1 I really like the finished project. LHT on a budget, and realize that the LHT is available with 26 inch wheels too, more similarities than one might imagine!

    I just keep pulling take off stems from the bin, but I would much prefer the two bolt clamp style. Very functional!

    I had a very similar paint scheme Miyata road bike (718A?), I went with white tape to match the saddle, but pink would have worked well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaleighSport View Post
    Quick question for you gurus who have converted these bikes before, if I wanted to correct the steering to less twitchy on my conversion would I go for a different fork or a different stem, or is both?
    My objective was to maintain the same distance from the nose of the saddle to the handlebars, as my set up on my road bikes. I use my drop bar conversion as a road bike anyway. Because of my odd dimensions (short legs, long arms and torso), my road bikes tend to have long stems. I need to take a side by side pic of one of my road bikes and my Cimmaron conversion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    My objective was to maintain the same distance from the nose of the saddle to the handlebars, as my set up on my road bikes. I use my drop bar conversion as a road bike anyway.
    And that makes even more sense, thanks Bill. I left the original stem on, and just used a lot of drop to make it fit well but I will have to measure out my road bikes or my GT and match that. I like your FB page btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    My objective was to maintain the same distance from the nose of the saddle to the handlebars, as my set up on my road bikes. I use my drop bar conversion as a road bike anyway.
    I do essentially the same thing, but measuring from saddle nose to bars (I assume you mean the flats) ignores any variance in saddle proportions and/or bar reach, which sometimes can be significant. So typically I measure from where my sit bones meet the saddle to the center of the hoods, or center of the drops, depending on where I plan to spend the most time.

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