Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

User Tag List
Bicycle Addict, TireLever-07

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-07-13, 07:12 AM   #2251
likebike23 
Rides Majestic
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Westfield, MA
Bikes: 1983 Univega Gran Turismo, 1970 Schwinn Super Sport, 2001 Univega Modo Vincere, Self-Built Nashbar Touring, 1974 Peugeot U08, 1974 Atala Grand Prix, 1986 Ross Mt. Hood, 80's Maruishi MT-18
Posts: 1,358
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
@droy45: If you are only running one chainring on the front, you can remove the large one and replace the chainring bolts with shorter ones that are commonly used for BMX:http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...2e26311f8bc35a. I'm sure there are cheaper out there, but I'm too lazy to hunt them down. Anyway, it will neaten up the look and save some weight, if that matters to you.
likebike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-13, 07:21 AM   #2252
droy45
tougher than a boiled owl
 
droy45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Rocky Coast of Maine
Bikes: Fetish Cycles Fixation / Fuji S12S / Gary Fisher MTB / Raleigh Grand Prix / Ross Professional / Kent comfort cruiser
Posts: 1,125
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by likebike23 View Post
@droy45: If you are only running one chainring on the front, you can remove the large one and replace the chainring bolts with shorter ones that are commonly used for BMX:http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...2e26311f8bc35a. I'm sure there are cheaper out there, but I'm too lazy to hunt them down. Anyway, it will neaten up the look and save some weight, if that matters to you.
Yeah, cool, thanks. I may look into doing that. I thought of it at first but the nice finish and logo on the large ring looked good so I thought to leave it for now.
droy45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-13, 07:20 PM   #2253
kehomer
Senior Member
 
kehomer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: North Georgia
Bikes:
Posts: 269
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunningBulldog View Post
She's rideable! Shaved 7 minutes off my loop this morning. Check out the fly shifter levers... lol
Very attractive and very ingenious! Way to go.
kehomer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-13, 02:08 PM   #2254
oddjob2 
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks, NNJ
Bikes: Too many
Posts: 9,829
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
I purchased the Miyata Terra Runner, upgraded to Deore XT, during the last week of June and finally have had time to complete the conversion. It's a budget job, $167 total investment, including initial purchase of the bike, new tires, tubes, cables, housing, bar tape, Tektro RL340 levers, stem, and used handlebars, barcons and saddle. The cable braze on was busted, so WRK101 suggested the repair clamp. Cobrabyte provided the nice Avocet on a swap. The handlebars and barcons were out of a $9 box 'o parts I bought in 2011, which included a Huret Jubilee RD. The Panaracer High Road V's are only $10/ea. A plush ride for sure. And I have a nice set of Deore or XT shifters leftover.

I imagine it's like cobbling together my own Miyata LHTR (Long Haul Terra Runner) for about 10% of a new LHT?





__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. Albert Einstein
2016 Additions: 1981 Miyata 1000, 1981 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8 chrome, Schwinn Paramount 50th Anniversary, Dawes Galaxy, Raleigh International, 1985 Raleigh Alyeska

Last edited by oddjob2; 08-08-13 at 06:52 PM.
oddjob2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-13, 05:24 PM   #2255
Chris Chicago
Senior Member
 
Chris Chicago's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: near north side
Bikes:
Posts: 1,170
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Pink tape looks great.

interestin how it has the sloping tt yet is lugged
Chris Chicago is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-13, 05:31 PM   #2256
Chrome Molly 
Senior Member
 
Chrome Molly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Minnesota
Bikes: A minor embarrassment of riches
Posts: 2,591
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
What's your 2 sentence review of that stem on the terra runner?
Chrome Molly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-13, 05:36 PM   #2257
oddjob2 
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks, NNJ
Bikes: Too many
Posts: 9,829
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Chicago View Post
Pink tape looks great.

interestin how it has the sloping tt yet is lugged
Thanks, I took a bit of a risk on the bubble gum tape, but it works well with the mint green.
Look at the fork clearance from both the tire and the frame.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Molly View Post
What's your 2 sentence review of that stem on the terra runner?
Niagara Cycle sku #822236 for $17.05. You can't beat it's price or simple elegance for the money.
__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. Albert Einstein
2016 Additions: 1981 Miyata 1000, 1981 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8 chrome, Schwinn Paramount 50th Anniversary, Dawes Galaxy, Raleigh International, 1985 Raleigh Alyeska

Last edited by oddjob2; 08-08-13 at 05:42 PM.
oddjob2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-13, 07:36 PM   #2258
inkandsilver 
Senior Member
 
inkandsilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Utah
Bikes:
Posts: 772
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Love it, oddjob! Looks badass.
inkandsilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-13, 09:36 PM   #2259
likebike23 
Rides Majestic
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Westfield, MA
Bikes: 1983 Univega Gran Turismo, 1970 Schwinn Super Sport, 2001 Univega Modo Vincere, Self-Built Nashbar Touring, 1974 Peugeot U08, 1974 Atala Grand Prix, 1986 Ross Mt. Hood, 80's Maruishi MT-18
Posts: 1,358
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Great looking bike oddjob! The pink tape goes well with the decals on the frame, a very 80's look. That stem is cool too, the detachable faceplate is convenient.
likebike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 04:53 AM   #2260
Gravity Aided
Senior Member
 
Gravity Aided's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Bikes: Trek 600 Raleigh Sports, Schwinn Impact, LaPierre TDF
Posts: 2,580
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I love what you've done with the Terra Runner, Oddjob. The Avocet saddle looks good there, and I'm sure it rides great. They all do. Saving one for my conversion, but it keeps getting put off. Doing a Cannondale MTB modernization right now, then maybe .
Gravity Aided is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 06:52 AM   #2261
Jbone78
Senior Member
 
Jbone78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 98
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Attached Images
File Type: jpg image.jpg (100.4 KB, 114 views)
Jbone78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 08:28 AM   #2262
cs1
Senior Member
 
cs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Clev Oh
Bikes: Specialized, Schwinn
Posts: 6,682
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Molly View Post
What's your 2 sentence review of that stem on the terra runner?
What kind of stem is it. I really like it. Kind of reminds me of a BMX stem.
cs1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 08:29 AM   #2263
oddjob2 
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks, NNJ
Bikes: Too many
Posts: 9,829
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cs1 View Post
What kind of stem is it. I really like it. Kind of reminds me of a BMX stem.
read #2257
__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. Albert Einstein
2016 Additions: 1981 Miyata 1000, 1981 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8 chrome, Schwinn Paramount 50th Anniversary, Dawes Galaxy, Raleigh International, 1985 Raleigh Alyeska
oddjob2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 08:50 AM   #2264
Bikedued
Senior Member
 
Bikedued's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 10,879
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 107 Post(s)
I am thinking of getting one of those for my High Sierra conversion, it is a great looking stem for genre it's in. Some stems of that design school are just fugly, but that one? Decent!,,,,BD
__________________
So many bikes, so little dime.
Bikedued is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 08:56 AM   #2265
Bikedued
Senior Member
 
Bikedued's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 10,879
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 107 Post(s)
Sold out!? Arrrgh...,,,,BD
__________________
So many bikes, so little dime.
Bikedued is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 08:58 AM   #2266
RaleighSport 
Hogosha Sekai
 
RaleighSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STS
Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Tempo, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans
Posts: 6,547
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Quick question for you gurus who have converted these bikes before, if I wanted to correct the steering to less twitchy on my conversion would I go for a different fork or a different stem, or is both?
__________________
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
RaleighSport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 09:24 AM   #2267
oddjob2 
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks, NNJ
Bikes: Too many
Posts: 9,829
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
It's just physics. Longer the stem, the twitchier it gets. Think leverage or how much faster the outer part of a wheel spins on axis than it does at the center. Narrower handlebars too.

Fork could solve the issue, but is at least 2X-3X more costly than a stem change.
__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. Albert Einstein
2016 Additions: 1981 Miyata 1000, 1981 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8 chrome, Schwinn Paramount 50th Anniversary, Dawes Galaxy, Raleigh International, 1985 Raleigh Alyeska
oddjob2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 09:27 AM   #2268
oddjob2 
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks, NNJ
Bikes: Too many
Posts: 9,829
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bikedued View Post
I am thinking of getting one of those for my High Sierra conversion, it is a great looking stem for genre it's in. Some stems of that design school are just fugly, but that one? Decent!,,,,BD
I barely want to sell a flip with an adjustable stem and have several to prove that I haven't. I have a whole milk crate full of vintage first class quills, Cinelli, 3TTT, Nitto, SR, etc., but they're all road oriented, so the bars would be too low. Also, have several vintage BMX stems, but they are fugly as well.
__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. Albert Einstein
2016 Additions: 1981 Miyata 1000, 1981 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8 chrome, Schwinn Paramount 50th Anniversary, Dawes Galaxy, Raleigh International, 1985 Raleigh Alyeska
oddjob2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 09:28 AM   #2269
LesterOfPuppets
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rock Springs, WY
Bikes: My War
Posts: 26,860
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 302 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
It's just physics. Longer the stem, the twitchier it gets.
It's usually the opposite for me. Shorter stem means more wheel turn for the same amount of bar movement. Shorter stem often means less weight on front wheel, which can "quicken" steering.

Quote:
Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
Narrower handlebars too.
Yes.
LesterOfPuppets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 09:29 AM   #2270
RaleighSport 
Hogosha Sekai
 
RaleighSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STS
Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Tempo, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans
Posts: 6,547
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Thanks for the input you two, I'll see if I can track down a correct stem first.
__________________
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
RaleighSport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 09:31 AM   #2271
LesterOfPuppets
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rock Springs, WY
Bikes: My War
Posts: 26,860
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 302 Post(s)
Are you going for a more roadified machine for running dirt roads or drop bar serious trail-riding bike?
LesterOfPuppets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 09:33 AM   #2272
wrk101
DRF aka Thrifty Bill
Thread Starter
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The NC Mountains
Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue, 87 Cimarron, 14 frame school custom, 73 Paramount
Posts: 19,976
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by likebike23 View Post
Great looking bike oddjob! The pink tape goes well with the decals on the frame, a very 80's look. That stem is cool too, the detachable faceplate is convenient.
+1 I really like the finished project. LHT on a budget, and realize that the LHT is available with 26 inch wheels too, more similarities than one might imagine!

I just keep pulling take off stems from the bin, but I would much prefer the two bolt clamp style. Very functional!

I had a very similar paint scheme Miyata road bike (718A?), I went with white tape to match the saddle, but pink would have worked well.

__________________
See my vintage steel bike tribute page on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/BillsVintageSteelBikes
wrk101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 09:36 AM   #2273
wrk101
DRF aka Thrifty Bill
Thread Starter
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The NC Mountains
Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue, 87 Cimarron, 14 frame school custom, 73 Paramount
Posts: 19,976
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaleighSport View Post
Quick question for you gurus who have converted these bikes before, if I wanted to correct the steering to less twitchy on my conversion would I go for a different fork or a different stem, or is both?
My objective was to maintain the same distance from the nose of the saddle to the handlebars, as my set up on my road bikes. I use my drop bar conversion as a road bike anyway. Because of my odd dimensions (short legs, long arms and torso), my road bikes tend to have long stems. I need to take a side by side pic of one of my road bikes and my Cimmaron conversion.
__________________
See my vintage steel bike tribute page on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/BillsVintageSteelBikes

Last edited by wrk101; 08-09-13 at 10:40 AM.
wrk101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 09:43 AM   #2274
RaleighSport 
Hogosha Sekai
 
RaleighSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STS
Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Tempo, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans
Posts: 6,547
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
My objective was to maintain the same distance from the nose of the saddle to the handlebars, as my set up on my road bikes. I use my drop bar conversion as a road bike anyway.
And that makes even more sense, thanks Bill. I left the original stem on, and just used a lot of drop to make it fit well but I will have to measure out my road bikes or my GT and match that. I like your FB page btw.
__________________
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
RaleighSport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-13, 01:55 PM   #2275
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 5,419
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
My objective was to maintain the same distance from the nose of the saddle to the handlebars, as my set up on my road bikes. I use my drop bar conversion as a road bike anyway.
I do essentially the same thing, but measuring from saddle nose to bars (I assume you mean the flats) ignores any variance in saddle proportions and/or bar reach, which sometimes can be significant. So typically I measure from where my sit bones meet the saddle to the center of the hoods, or center of the drops, depending on where I plan to spend the most time.
due ruote is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:19 PM.