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Old 07-15-12, 01:05 AM   #1
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The answer to "How many projects can you handle at one time?" - 1978 Colnago Super

This beauty makes it four bikes and three drillium projects in various stages of completion:



Details tomorrow - Sacha says it's time for bed



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The gransport front derailleur is just not right!
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The gransport front derailleur is just not right!
????? you lost me.

Another nice frame D. Dude. Spread yourself evenly.
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I've always had a hard time telling the Nuovo Gran Sport and Record front derailleurs apart. How can you tell which is which?
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Must have better eyes than I do, from that pic.

ANOTHER 'Nago, D. Dude!!!! Cool. You're becoming a one-marque pro.
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Regarding the FD: I think it's somewhat common that people see the larger front clamp and assume GS. However, the GS FD had steel actuating arms that were thinner (and heavier) than the forged alloy of NR and SR. The smaller clamp came later on and was used on both NR and SR.

This is a post-CPSC NR.

I'm taking pics of the frame details right now, so I'll have some more on this project in an hour or so.

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Okay, so what's the story on this one?

Well, ever since I got the '73 Super (the one I restored about 3 years ago - and I'm calling it a '73 vice '74 now), I've been wanting to add one more Colnago to my personal collection to bridge the middle of the gap between it and my '83 Mexico. This is just me, but I consider that era of Colnagos to be representative of what I like in Italian racing bikes.

Anyhow, Alex Moll contacted me a few weeks ago regarding some feedback/advice about an Italian frame purchase he was thinking of making; Alex has never in his life had an Italian rig, although he's got quite the collection of French, British and American-made high-end stuff (he's no slouch in the drillium/restoration department, either).

I helped out with suggestions best I could. A few days after purchasing the frame, he found this '78 Super and wanted to buy it as a donor bike and offered up the frame and a few components he wouldn't be needing. His plan is early-80s Super Record and I had spares of that stuff, so we traded SR for NR and the frame was a simple money deal.

Yesterday he brought the frame/parts over, along with his 1973 Davidson. We did a short 20 miler in the morning - kinda neat, as we both rode our Davidsons, which just happen to be 30 years apart in age. Upon returning, we removed the parts from the Super that Alex will be using and took out the HS in the Masi as well. He also passed this cool tool along to me:

Dremel dual-sander:



Cool, huh? And the instruction sheet shows that a polishing belt can also be used on this, so that's an added bonus.

So, Alex is still awaiting his frame - hopefully it arrives in the next week (it's in the country via DHL, so that's good). The plan is to meet up next weekend at the Bryant Trailhead of the Centennial Trail, ride to his house and check out his new beauty. Fingers crossed that it arrives safely and the weather is good.

Okay, without further delay, here are the frame's details. Enjoy!

Rear dropouts and 1978 Nuovo Record RD:



Backside of driveside rear DO - note the additional round buttresses; those are for the Portacatena drilling sites:



Backside of non-driveside rear DO - note the nick pattern: I believe someone used this with a rear rack, and the nicks are from a set of Blackburn adapters:



Neat little metal chainstay protector:



Chain peg (?):



Rear brake bridge:



Rear brake:



BB shell clover cutout:




BB shell details and NR FD:




More coming...

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Last group.

Head tube and NR headset:




Upper head lug; beautiful thinning, and isn't that headset a beauty?




Underside of fork crown - note the pin next to the brake bolt passing through:




Backside of fork crown with recessed details:



Clover cutout in fork stiffening tang:



Lower head lug, Campy gear levers and late-model semi-sloping crown with clover and "Colnago" engraving:



Myself, Alex - and even the seller - are not 100% sure if the paint/chrome is original. It certainly is thin enough to pass for original (and the seller claimed to be only the second owner who only rode it once and put it away for 20 years. Ummm....well, maybe...). Two things strike me as odd: one, there's not a trace of a Columbus tubing decal anywhere, and two, the decals are a little strange - instead of being single letters as normal, these are one large sticker with large clear areas wrapping around 3/4 of the tube. They could be aftermarket.

In any case, the paint looks right and has held up very, very well. Not nearly the patina of, say, the Masi - in fact, the little chips here and there are completely commensurate with use and not abuse. I like that, so I don't mind them at all. Saves me the worry of putting the first chip in the paint myself, you know?

So, this was the third frame acquired in June that I'd written about. I think that's a record for me; 3 frames in one month. The Masi almost made it 4.

This brings me to 11 bikes. WTF? I thought I said last year that I was happy with the size of my collection and blah, blah, blah... Well, now I am. I have my Masi and I have my generation-filling Colnago Super. I can die content

Seriously, this is my last bike/frame purchase for awhile. I'm heading for Diego Garcia with only one bike and 11 is more than I can ride in one week. And now I really am not looking/lusting after anything else.

The Colnago is waiting on a 120mm Cinelli 1A stem and 70mm Campy strada spindle for the BB to finish her off mechanically. Shnibop has kindly offered up assistance on both these items - thanks, dude!

The last thing to see to: PC decals. And I have a set already - they were bought and set aside back in the day for just such a project. OCD is my friend

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A real beauty, I can't wait to see the finished product (on this and all your other projects).

Also interested to see what you can do with that new belt sander/polisher!
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A real beauty, I can't wait to see the finished product (on this and all your other projects).

Also interested to see what you can do with that new belt sander/polisher!
I'm afraid this may disappoint some watchers as it will be built completely stock Nuovo/Super Record. I mean, the bits will be shiny and all, but no drilling or suchlike, you know? This will be understated but elegant; not flashy, but interesting just the same, I suppose.

Yes, that belt-sander is going to help speed up a couple of processes for me - especially as it can do double-duty as a polishing device as well. I'm going to have fun with that

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Original paint or not, who cares? That is a real beauty DD.

- But this is still my favorite pic in the whole thread:

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But this is still my favorite pic in the whole thread:

Mine, too - I'm a lucky man, and I know it

You're absolutely right about the paint; I was just thinking along the lines of full-disclosure. In discussion with Alex, I made the suggestion that it might have been repainted back in the day, say, ten years or so after being made. I would think the paints and processes in those days would've resulted in a thinner, more-original look. The PO did say he bought it, rode it once and then put it away for 20 years, so it wasn't repainted recently.

Personally, I love the paint job - and it's a perfect match for the ice-blue Colnago was using during this timeframe.

How I wish I had a saddle and the correct-length stem right now - I'd be running this around the neighborhood on a test ride instead of typing this!

By the weekend, she will be ride-ready.

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I always thought Nuovo Record FDs got holes at the same time as the CPSC lip and that the Nuovo Gran sports were the same but without the holes.
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I always thought Nuovo Record FDs got holes at the same time as the CPSC lip and that the Nuovo Gran sports were the same but without the holes.
Hmmm...could be. I have non-Campy catalogs that show NRs without holes, but that's not the same as a real Campy Catalog, huh? Alas, I have none of those. So I'll say it could go either way - at any rate, I like the look of the hole-less outer plate

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unfortunately there is no campy catalog that can be taken as gospel from that time. There is a supplement that came out in '79 which shows the new super record and the "record" front derailleur with 4 holes. it also shows the gran-sport which appears to be the same as record but with the globe logo and a solid outer plate. The previous catalog is from 1975.
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Auchen: Here a couple more shots of everyone's favorite cat, playing with her new favorite toy (Campy "Open-C" QR lever!), for your enjoyment.

What's this?




Tastes funny, but...




...it's mine now




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I have a few favorite cats of my own here with me now, DD - but your Sacha is a real cutie, no doubt about it!!!
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Thanks - and I get you. It's like parents: every parent thinks their kid is the cutest, smartest and coolest kid on the planet and everyone else's are just average

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Sacha is above average.
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Ha, you're going to be the Colnago version of the Rainbow Sheikh, eh? One for every colour of the rainbow! This one's great, I'm rather partial to blue bikes (my whole stable is blue now, after the demise of the yellow moulton - I must add some colour soon!).
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Cool frameset.

My first Super was a similar color and I loved that bicycle.

Wasn't the nicest bicycle I ever owned, but it was a fantastic bicycle to race for a few seasons.

It got pretty beat up from crashes and rough use, but she never gave up.

Congrats on your nice acquisition Jeff!

Btw Maybe you already mentioned Sacha's plan for Diego Garcia. Does she get to tag along?
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Really lovely Colnago! I'd have had a hard time passing this one up, too, no matter how many current projects I had. Thanks for all the detailed pics.

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Good luck with your assignment. Thanks for your service! How long will you be away? From wiki: "Typical of coral atolls, [Diego Garcia] has a maximum elevation on some dunes on the ocean side of the rim of just nine metres (30 ft) above mean low water." Maybe you should bring a simple single-speed instead of your impeccable Davidson? There be pirates yonder!

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Even the plainest Colnago is pretty flashy.
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