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    A few questions for Centurion experts.

    I have been looking at the Ironman bikes now on Craigslist, some of the listings don't say what year, but is it possible to tell what year they are by looking at the frame color and components they have?

    There is one i like that has 105 components and has a white and red frame, seems to be an Expert, as Masters came in 600 groupset.

    but could there be a Master model with the white and red frame?

    Also, what is the main difference between the Mater and Expert, besides 600 and 105 components? Weight, how much difference?

    thank you

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    This link should supply you with much of the information you seek. Scroll down to post 14 and start reading Robbietunes' posts.

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...80s-paint-jobs!
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    Heck, I went to that thread and overcooked the spaghetti....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
    Heck, I went to that thread and overcooked the spaghetti....
    Sorry!
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    Yes you can tell the age by frame color and componets.
    Yes Robbie has lots of good posts on the subject.
    Yes T-Mar dose too.
    Yes they are cool.
    Yes they are fast.
    Yes they are cheep.
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    been dying to get one myself, but every time i see one up, they're at absurd prices. last time i was on ebay, a frameset alone was at $300 bin with no bid option

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    Quote Originally Posted by zazenzach View Post
    been dying to get one myself, but every time i see one up, they're at absurd prices. last time i was on ebay, a frameset alone was at $300 bin with no bid option
    Keep the faith. Monitor CL. They cycle hot and cold on eBay. Don't be afraid to buy a rough one, if it's in colors you can touch up. I've never sold an Ironman frame for $300, even with new paint and decals, and I've paid from $97 to $307 for complete ones. I don't regret a dime of any of the transactions.

    I have been looking at the Ironman bikes now on Craigslist, some of the listings don't say what year, but is it possible to tell what year they are by looking at the frame color and components they have?
    Yes. That's how I do it. The SN often tells year of manufacture, but many were made for the upcoming "season" that pretty much began in the previous fall....


    There is one i like that has 105 components and has a white and red frame, seems to be an Expert, as Masters came in 600 groupset.
    The red/white '86 had 600EX, the red/white '87 had 105.


    but could there be a Master model with the white and red frame?
    No.


    Also, what is the main difference between the Master and Expert, besides 600 and 105 components?
    Color and the words "Master" or "Expert" over the Ironman logo.


    Weight, how much difference?
    Zero. Both were Tange 1 frames, same geometry, same cult following.


    thank you
    Any time. We are Ironman.
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    No matter the years, the Ironman frames were all 'al dente'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byhsu View Post
    but could there be a Master model with the white and red frame?
    the year the red/white model with 600ex came out, there was no Master/Expert, there was just Ironman. Centurion later created the distinction when they offered the bike with either 600 or 105. but as Robbie says everything besides the paint and group are the same on the bikes. (except newer ones have a different fork from the older ones)
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