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    Fitting frame for a SunTour groupset?

    In most cases I prefer Campagnolo, but SunTour had character and was innovative. So I have dream about owning a complete SunTour groupset. But what would be a fitting frame brand to go with it?

    Is there some classic bike model that you think of when you hear SunTour?

    And a similar question: When hunting for a SunTour groupset, was any common model fully equipped with a SunTour top of the line groupset?

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    Fuji. Or Centurion.
    Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

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    I believe in the mid '80s Bianchi had a strong relationship with Suntour.

    I think a SPrint or SuperBee group would look great on most anything. Didn't Greewall (is that spelled right?) ride Suntour in the Olympics?
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    What level of Suntour group? SSP would go nicely on a 3Rensho or Zunow....assuming you can find a frame.
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    So the list starts with:
    Fuji
    Centurion
    Bianchi
    3Rensho
    Zunow

    Actually I don't know that much about the different SunTour groups, but just the name SuperBe sounds good to my ears. I've been reading at Velobase: http://velobase.com/ViewBrand.aspx?B...b-dac2d4abd9e6

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987 View Post
    In most cases I prefer Campagnolo, but SunTour had character and was innovative. So I have dream about owning a complete SunTour groupset. But what would be a fitting frame brand to go with it?

    Is there some classic bike model that you think of when you hear SunTour?

    And a similar question: When hunting for a SunTour groupset, was any common model fully equipped with a SunTour top of the line groupset?
    Personally, when I equate SunTour with 'road bike' two models come to mind:

    1983-84 Team Miyata - because the 1st shop I worked at was a Miyata dealer, and they had a 50cm '84 Team with Superbe that was just gorgeous.

    1984-85 Specialized Allez -- Two words... "American Flyers". 3 Rensho, Kellogg, Japanese; it doesn't matter which. SunTour components + the bright red
    paint job with the slashing 'ALLEZ' on the DT = Marcus & David, The Hell of the West & the Morgul-Bismark.

    You know what? If you find a C & V 4130 frame set you like and it fits you, make that one your SunTour build.

    BG - Alexi Grewal did have SunTour on his Pinarello when he won the Gold in LA. He got the bike from the Denver Spoke, which is now defunct.
    Sad... it was a Denver icon for years.
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    Superbe or Superbee then becoming Superbe Pro was the cream of the crop. unless you can score a good deal on a donor bike of a different size get out your checkbook. I see Superbee and even Sprint going for as much as Campi parts these days.

    Some of the Suprebee RDs were the best looking and performing ever made, esp this one but it was friction only

    http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...5cdc9&Enum=108



    the pic is from ebay and the buy it now price is $100 used.
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    Others but still loved,; '80 RIGI, '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '86 Bertoni (sold), '09 Motobecane SS, '98 Hetchins M.O., '09 K2 Mainframe, '89 Trek 2000, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape

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    Miyata, SR, Schwinn Circuit (with full Sprint group...oh yeah)

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    Nishiki Pro ?

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    The list grows:
    Team Miyata
    Specialized Allez
    Schwinn Circuit - Sprint group
    Nishiki Pro

    If only considdering design, I really like the solid and clean form of these:
    SunTour RD-SL00-SSB, SL
    http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...8-72D9A64752F6
    SunTour RD-SB00-SS8, Superbe Pro
    http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...B-E498BD83784E

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    Trek 760

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    In the quest of finding a good donor, the obvious followup question:
    Was there any non popular bike model with full SunTour Sprint or SurperBe groupset?

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    '87,

    Were you leaning towards Accushift or friction? I was thinking this vintage:





    With earlier Superbe Pro grupos, the FW combinations were endless and the brakes are just smooth as silk; I have a pair on my Salsa RB and
    wouldn't trade them for anything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskoolwrench View Post
    '87,
    Were you leaning towards Accushift or friction? I was thinking this vintage:
    Both are of interest. But I have friction on all my other bikes, so Accushift would be more fun. If it performs well.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldskoolwrench;
    ... the FW combinations were endless ...
    FW?

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    Fitting frame for a SunTour groupset?

    Freewheel.
    Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

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    Ah of course, I mainly just use: RD, FD, HF and LF. And from now FW

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    I'd probably go with black-knuckled cyclone. Of course, at that time there wasn't a real "group" with the crank, seatpost, brakes and hubs typically provided by other Japanese companies like Sunshine, SR and Dia Compe.

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    Centurion Turbo. I wouldn't kick a very nice later Cyclone group out of bed for eating crackers, either--aesthetically pleasing with smooth and solid performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987 View Post
    Both are of interest. But I have friction on all my other bikes, so Accushift would be more fun. If it performs well.

    FW?
    Oops... sorry for the new nomenclature! I get that way sometimes; just hit my 'reboot' switch and I'll stop.

    What's the best way to describe how Accushift feels on a road bike? Let's see, you're a Campagnolo guy...
    think of the 'clunk' sound of early Syncro mixed with a slight overshift at the lever, and that's Accushift.
    It's very crisp, and heavy in the hand; not as light in the fingers as Shimano. The Index/ friction switch
    takes two more moves than Shimano's, too.

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    club fuji, team fuji, or maybe a centurion ironman

    sorry but those are your only options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskoolwrench View Post
    ... Accushift.
    It's very crisp, and heavy in the hand; not as light in the fingers as Shimano.
    That description sounded very intriguing. I got to try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zazenzach View Post
    club fuji, team fuji, or maybe a centurion ironman

    sorry but those are your only options.
    I got a lot of Google hits on Centurion Turbo and Centurion Ironman. Though I don't know much about Centurion (my main interest is old Cinellis .
    I will have to study at: http://sheldonbrown.com/centurion/index.html
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    Suntour Superbe is Bad-a$$

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    Katakura Silk. Perfect for a Suntour group.

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