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Old 07-16-12, 07:55 PM   #1
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Back door eBay advice...

I've talked a seller down on price from a bike on eBay. In order to get that price I need to not go through eBay or PayPal (fees). The seller has a 100% rating with 308 transactions as well as a German site through which he sells bikes (http://www.eisenherz-bikes.de/) so he seems legit. He's going to give me his bank info for me to deposit cash in. I'm just trying to figure out what sort of protection I have against theft, if any, or alternative methods to complete the transaction. Any thoughts?
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Old 07-16-12, 08:04 PM   #2
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Use PayPal, pay the extra 3%. Otherwise you have no recourse.
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Old 07-16-12, 08:12 PM   #3
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Zero protection, nada, zilch. Do you live in Germany? If not, do you think the German police will go get your money back if there is a problem? How someone treats buyers via ebay is meaningless.

The main thing you get from ebay is tremendous buyer protection. Buyers are king on ebay.
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As a masters student, any money saved is much appreciated. I'll see if I can get him to sell the bike to me via PayPal, and just pay the 3.9% international fee. Thanks for the advice...
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use paypal with your CC.
I've done it as a seller.
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Use PayPal, pay the extra 3%. Otherwise you have no recourse.
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I've done this before. I made a best offer that the seller said he couldn't accept due to ebay's fees. He offered me the bike at my offer price for paypal gift or a money order.

The seller was knowledgeable, friendly, and trustworthy, but it was still well worth my money to spend an extra ~$15 to cover the fees on a $570 purchase (using the paypal purchase option instead of "gift"), just in case something went wrong.

DON'T do anything that is a gift or instant money transfer of any kind, unless you're not afraid of losing the money.
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As a masters student, any money saved is much appreciated...
If you go this route, you may get schooled in an entirely different way...

I'm with everyone else: don't roll this particular pair of dice

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I did a similar purchase from a different seller in Germany recently. He had lots of positive ebay feedback, and he had a bike I had to have. It took a long time (6-8 weeks for the bike to clear customs with shipping) but I didn't have to pay any additional fees. I think bicycles might be exempt.

I took a leap of faith, but did use paypal. I bought the bike outside of ebay although it was originally listed on ebay. In addition, he has a professional looking website for his online store.

YMMV.......
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