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    retro bottle: Klean Kanteen?

    Has anyone used one of these?
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    This is the 27oz bottle, but the stopper can be used on the 18oz bottle, which is supposed to fit in bike bottle cages. They have an all aluminium stopper too, but the bamboo one kind of looks like cork from a few feet out. The retro grouch in me likes it.

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    I use them all the time, a bit of acetone(nail polish remover) takes care of the logos. I use them for almost all of my rides. Dunno about fitting in bottle cages, I don't have any of those on my Raleigh Superbe.

    I have also seen where people wrap them in leather or twine. Sharp looking. They also make a thermal version, don't have one of those yet.

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    I used a knockoff stainless bottle and went to the hardware store and picked up a large cork plug for a buck. They give a very nice touch to something modern for that vintage look without paying that vintage price.

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    I've used my 27 oz. "Classic" bottle for years .. it's great, unless I lose it I'll never have to buy other.

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    They make a smaller one that fits even better.

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    I use these:

    http://www.amazon.com/Klean-Kanteen-...=kleen+kanteen

    But with a different cap. They fit well in most bottle cages, but they do tend to rattle a little and make a rasping noise against the cage when taking them out or putting them away. I solved this by wrapping them in black cloth tape. Here's what they look like.

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    I just got one, and I'm hooked. Paired with my VO MKII cage, it fits perfectly and doesn't rattle (after you squeeze the cage a tad).

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    Can someone educate me about these? What's the appeal other than the look and I'm guessing the plastic taste? I mean, when I'm out in a paceline, I don't want to be fumbling around with a bottle like this to get a quick sip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puget Pounder View Post
    Can someone educate me about these? What's the appeal other than the look and I'm guessing the plastic taste? I mean, when I'm out in a paceline, I don't want to be fumbling around with a bottle like this to get a quick sip.
    They have sippy top too, but if i am riding in a group, i plan on using my usual camel bottle. You can squeeze them while you are gasping for breath and thirsty at the same time. I like these for my retro rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry III View Post
    I used a knockoff stainless bottle and went to the hardware store and picked up a large cork plug for a buck. They give a very nice touch to something modern for that vintage look without paying that vintage price.
    The cork is a good idea.
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    They aren't plastic. There is waaaaay too much plastic blowing and rolling around in the world today. Stainless steel will last almost indefinitely. No it isn't real fancy and high tech, and no you can't squeeze to get a drink out of it. They do make a sports top type lid that fits. They work for me because I don't ride in pace lines.

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    I have a couple and a few knock-offs too. I like the sports cap, and just stop and switch the lids around, 'cos they are expensive new but I've found a few in thrift shops, and it's easy to clean too... I've got the corks to complete the retro look but I don't have any retro enough bottle cages yet.

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    You can always tell a rider with metal bottles because he sounds like the junk truck on a bumpy road.

    I guess wrapping the bottles in cloth would work, but I've never seen anyone do it.
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    I don't use cloth. I used colored electrical tape. The bottle needs it, otherwise they do make noise. Nice bottles, they do make a top you can open with your mouth while riding, and they come in colors that almost match your bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
    You can always tell a rider with metal bottles because he sounds like the junk truck on a bumpy road.

    I guess wrapping the bottles in cloth would work, but I've never seen anyone do it.
    You can use a sock too and if it is wet get evaporation cooling. I don't have water bottle racks on any of my vintage bikes, the only thing rattling are my fenders.

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    I'm using both 18oz and 27oz in King Iris stainless cages, bottles don't rattle at all after you squeeze cages just a tad. The sports cap works OK, but the plastic is very hard and the top don't pop as easy as a plastic bottle. I find it difficult to bite and yank while I'm riding, the cap stays stuck, so I just leave the top popped, there's no leakage or spill. The cap does make a weird whistling noise when you drink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
    I don't use cloth. I used colored electrical tape. The bottle needs it, otherwise they do make noise. Nice bottles, they do make a top you can open with your mouth while riding, and they come in colors that almost match your bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by element-82 View Post
    They have sippy top too, but if i am riding in a group, i plan on using my usual camel bottle. You can squeeze them while you are gasping for breath and thirsty at the same time. I like these for my retro rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
    They aren't plastic. There is waaaaay too much plastic blowing and rolling around in the world today. Stainless steel will last almost indefinitely. No it isn't real fancy and high tech, and no you can't squeeze to get a drink out of it. They do make a sports top type lid that fits. They work for me because I don't ride in pace lines.

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    Thanks for that. I have one too that I use for in the office. I've never used it for a ride. Maybe I'll rock these on my Cinelli SC so I can be CV-chic.

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    I have used these for years and got one of the first batch from VO. VO was one of the few sources for the steel (innards only) screw tops and they sold them separately, not sure if they sell these new ones separately. But I would like to replace the O-ring on mine, does anyone know of a source for replacements, and no I don't want to use a black plumbing O-ring, must be food grade and close to the original. Mine are mold stained (yeah maybe I didn't scrub it with soap after it had something other than water in it), but they all seem to mold after a while. If yours is still good be sure to remove the O-ring and wash thoroughly with soap periodically. You also have to dismantle the camelbak bottles too as those nozzles get pretty nasty if you let them go. I remember when they came out we got some free samples in the shop and after a summer of using them one of us came to work one day and said "guys check your nozzles", that was not a pleasant discovery, black inside.
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    I am the dissenting voice here. I don't like them. You can't squeeze them to get a larger amount of water, faster. If you don't have the sport top, which dispensses water very slowly, you can't drink while riding. They rattle and require additional work to keep from rattling. They may not fit in your bottle cage. If they drop, they dent. They cost more than double vs. plastic water bottle that does not leach plastic taste. Other than the faux vintage look, they have no real benefit.

    I use these and often find them on sale for between $4-$6.
    http://store.somafab.com/crppwabo.html
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    ^ No pic or link for the bottles you use.

    I agree with fender, in use, rigid SS bottles are not as practical as plastic. Can't get a good drink on the bike. (unless it's a bottle with a straw system and you can suck down a gulp quickly.)

    Only advantage is the water/drink doesn't get its taste altered by the plastic. Another thread was showing your vintage water bottles. I have none, as they all made the water taste like a chemical cocktail. Not to hijack this thread, but you'd think by this day and age they can make all plastic bottles w/o that plastic taste leaching to the water!

    I picked up a modern wide mouth REI/Novara water bottle and it tastes as bad as my late 70s bottles.
    I found storing it filled with salt water helps to impede the leaching effect to the water.
    Only 1 Zefal modern mtb bottle I have doesn't impart a bad taste.

    What plastic bottles are you folks using that don't affect the water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fender1 View Post
    I am the dissenting voice here. I don't like them. You can't squeeze them to get a larger amount of water, faster. If you don't have the sport top, which dispensses water very slowly, you can't drink while riding. They rattle and require additional work to keep from rattling. They may not fit in your bottle cage. If they drop, they dent. They cost more than double vs. plastic water bottle that does not leach plastic taste. Other than the faux vintage look, they have no real benefit.
    I can't disagree with anything you say. But I still like them better, partially because of the fact that they're stainless steel. I know what that is, while plastic bottles may come with who knows what chemical in them. I also tend to stop to get a drink, since I'm never racing anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Italuminium View Post
    Bad, bad, rootboy! what did we tell you about NDS pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fender1 View Post

    I use these and often find them on sale for between $4-$6.
    http://store.somafab.com/crppwabo.html
    Yeah but....those are ugly, Fender 1.

    I can't argue with any of your reasoning either. For me it was between my old, C&V period plastic bottles, but those taste kinda nasty now, and stainless. I like the stainless. But you're right on many points.

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