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Old 07-17-12, 12:43 PM   #1
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Some questions about my new Zeus, Campy, and Regina parts

So, I met this guy and he has a garage full of NOS and NIB components. He also has a few complete bikes including A Schwinn paramount tandem and the matching road bike. So, these are a few components that i picked up and i wanted some more information on them.

Soffatti peofessionale saddle w/ unknown 27.2 Campagnolo seatpost
I don't know if these Zeus cranks are what they say on the box "Zeus criterium (E)". They are used touring cranks 172.5mm, triple ring 53,50,36, With custom drilled out chainrings. My question is what bottom bracket would these take?
2 Nuovo Record rear derailleurs, one is NOS, patent-72 and 73
Unknown Campagnolo front derailleur
A couple sets of Campagnolo bar end shifters w/ matching cable guides
A one sided Campagnolo downtube shifter w/ matching cable guide
NIB Campagnolo Nuovo record strada headset
NIB Zeus downtube or stem mounted shifters, i can't tell
Wheelset - Rigida 700c laced to Hi-flange 36h Zeus hubs
NIB gold Suntour Pro-compe 5 speed freewheel
2 NIB Regina Extra 5 speed freewheels
A NIB Regina Extra chain
NOS Shimano dura-ace downtube shifters, clamp on
A used Regina Extra oro 5 speed freewheel
2 used 3TTT record stems
I also picked up some smalls, but i will be going back shortly.

Do any of these components really stand out to you guys? And how much is all this gold worth?
Thanks, Owen M.
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Old 07-17-12, 12:48 PM   #2
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Can't evaluate them without pictures, Owen, and this thread is probably best directed over on the Valuation forum.
BTW. I'll be the first to chime in; interested in the NOS Nuovo Record derailleur if you're interested in selling.
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I wasn't about to take pictures of each individual component. And one picture would be a little hard to see everything. I left a few things out of the picture for some reason but here you go.

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Well for an evaluation I'd go with 'a lot' I'm far from an expert though. That being said if you'd like to move those bar-end shifters give me a shout. I love'em.
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So, I met this guy and he has a garage full of NOS and NIB components. He also has a few complete bikes including A Schwinn paramount tandem and the matching road bike. So, these are a few components that i picked up and i wanted some more information on them.

Soffatti peofessionale saddle w/ unknown 27.2 Campagnolo seatpost
I don't know if these Zeus cranks are what they say on the box "Zeus criterium (E)". They are used touring cranks 172.5mm, triple ring 53,50,36, With custom drilled out chainrings. My question is what bottom bracket would these take?
2 Nuovo Record rear derailleurs, one is NOS, patent-72 and 73
Unknown Campagnolo front derailleur
A couple sets of Campagnolo bar end shifters w/ matching cable guides
A one sided Campagnolo downtube shifter w/ matching cable guide
NIB Campagnolo Nuovo record strada headset
NIB Zeus downtube or stem mounted shifters, i can't tell
Wheelset - Rigida 700c laced to Hi-flange 36h Zeus hubs
NIB gold Suntour Pro-compe 5 speed freewheel
2 NIB Regina Extra 5 speed freewheels
A NIB Regina Extra chain
NOS Shimano dura-ace downtube shifters, clamp on
A used Regina Extra oro 5 speed freewheel
2 used 3TTT record stems
I also picked up some smalls, but i will be going back shortly.

Do any of these components really stand out to you guys? And how much is all this gold worth?
Thanks, Owen M.
For Zeus, it's the top of the line 2000 series components that seem to get the most money. Otherwise, most of their stuff is considered a notch below Campy stuff, like Ofmega or Gipiemme would be. As for the custom drilling on the Zeus touring crank rings, inless it's done extremely well and looks beautiful, I think it doesn't really add that much, if any value or sometimes actually lessens the value of the components most of the time.
IIRC, the "Extra" line of the Regina FWs are the lower (budget) model ones but would still sell about the same amount as most better Maillards if in good condition.

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He also has a bunch of chainrings, most are not drilled out. So i will probably get some better ones for my cranks. I'm also considering making a large offer and buying this guys whole collection. He has tons of NOS rim hoops like Fiamme, Rigida, and Super champion. And many more components which i couldn't afford that day. As for all of you who want to buy my stuff, please wait a few days. I have had these parts in my hand for less than 24 hours and i'm trying to sort out what i want to keep and how much each part is worth. I will get back to you though.
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Check to see if the clamping pieces on the Campy seatpost is steel or aluminum. The ones with the aluminum seat rail clamps are more desirable for most because of the slightkly lighter weight.

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Any comments on how much all this is worth? And what about the right side only clamp-on Campagnolo downtube shifter with matching one sided cable guide? I believe the seatpost has steel bits, what is the model?
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Any comments on how much all this is worth? And what about the right side only clamp-on Campagnolo downtube shifter with matching one sided cable guide? I believe the seatpost has steel bits, what is the model?
If it has no flutes on the shaft, no hole through the lower clamp pivot and has the all steel clamps, it's either a "Record" or the earliest versions of the "Nuovo Record" seatpost. Some people actually like the idea of having the stronger steel clamps, not that there's really any evidence that the later aluminum versions have any problems with failures. The posts in used condition do not really go for that much money anyway as there's lots of them for sale/auction out there all the time. Although sometimes there are speculators out there that seem to think that an NOS one in a box should be $200+ bucks so they end up sitting on them for a long time.....so price your post carefully/appropriately. You can get a baseline price to work with from finished auction final bids at Ebay for similar seatposts.

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For Zeus, it's the top of the line 2000 series components that seem to get the most money. Otherwise, most of their stuff is considered a notch below Campy stuff...
Maybe, but Zeus parts are much harder to find than Campagnolo.
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I don't know if these Zeus cranks are what they say on the box "Zeus criterium (E)". They are used touring cranks 172.5mm, triple ring 53,50,36, With custom drilled out chainrings. My question is what bottom bracket would these take?
A Zeus 123 x 55T (68mm shell) or 123 x 57T (70mm shell) would be the original spec for that crank, but as you might imagine these are pretty scarce these days. The closest alternative axle I can find in my old Sutherland's would be a Stronglight 125 (68mm shell) or Stronglight 126 (70mm shell), but these are only marginally more available. A Phil cartridge with a #4 or #5 spindle might also work, and some experimentation with other modern square taper cartridges may yield something useful.

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ANy of those 3t stems 90cm? If so want to sell one?
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Maybe, but Zeus parts are much harder to find than Campagnolo.
Yes, but have you noticed how crude a lot of Zeus components look compared to Campy stuff in general?

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