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    Fat Guy on a Little Bike KonAaron Snake's Avatar
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    Italian Goodness by Way of California

    This is actually among the nicest frames I've come across...I don't need it at all, but it was too good to pass up. I'm still deciding on the exact build, but while that's going on, here's the frame. I'm probably going with something like northroads, barcons and a 6sp Campy gruppo with dual pivot calipers. 32c tires...maybe the Grand Bois everyone is so excited about. Ignore the headset if you can.















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    I'm sure it's great; Now if we could only see it!
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    C'mon - you have to give me a second! I can't post photos from work on the computer - have to edit them in from the phone.

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    Very cool! That's going to be a beautiful and useful bike when she's done....
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    Nice frameset.

    Is it SL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gomango View Post
    Nice frameset.

    Is it SL?
    Thanks bibliobob...I have a good city bike as is, but it was too nice to resist.

    I'm not sure Grady, it's light, so I'd guess probably? The catalogs I've seen weren't specific and I just assumed it varied with size.

    I think BBM asked about how the BMZ engraving looked:


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    That's going to make a very nice townie!

    Are 32's going to work with the brakes you have in mind?
    It really doesn't matter, b/c it will be just as nice with other brakes or a bit smaller tires.

    This is a very pretty frame!
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    I think I can squeeze them in...if not, I'll use 28s. Or different brakes. It might depend on the actual width of the tire as opposed to listed size.

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    Beautiful paint, yeah...can't pass up on this one.
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    Can anyone hazard a guess on the year?

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    Edit: oops, sorry, looks like they never got that working. Although I have
    one of these, I'm not the expert on them, so I'll defer.

    What I've seen of the 70's (including mine) have chromed caps on the
    seat stays, so I'd guess the paint on yours says newer ??
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    Possible, but it's also a repaint, so not necessarily.

    I've never seen Columbus panto in seatstay caps like that...fairly distinctive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gomango View Post
    Nice frameset.

    Is it SL?
    Since I live near PA bikes I use to frequent that shop and buy stuff from them (frames /parts) back when they selling those frames. Though I never bought one, I thought they were made extremely well & looked great w/ their simpler paint jobs & logo. A value then at $325! I have the catalogues from them for '82. '83, & '85. They all say Columbus SL Tubing. Good score...

    I tried scanning the pg on the PA frames, but all of a sudden we're having some difficulty w/ our new printer...sigh! Later?
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    Here's some Palo Alto Catalog Scans on velobase.

    Frame looks to be mid-80's. I'm thinking repaint on this one. Paint looks a lot thicker and doesn't have the metalflake that my 1984 PA had. Columbus sticker is missing too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thinktubes View Post
    Here's some Palo Alto Catalog Scans on velobase.

    Frame looks to be mid-80's. I'm thinking repaint on this one. Paint looks a lot thicker and doesn't have the metalflake that my 1984 PA had. Columbus sticker is missing too.

    Mine is a repaint by Southwest.

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    Looking through Velobase's earliest Palo Alto Scans, it's saying their frames were made w/ Reynolds 531 tubing in '78 & '79. The change to Columbus tubing must have occurred at the beginning of the 80's...?

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    I'm assuming they wouldn't have put Columbus panto into a Reynolds frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
    Thanks bibliobob...I have a good city bike as is, but it was too nice to resist.

    I'm not sure Grady, it's light, so I'd guess probably? The catalogs I've seen weren't specific and I just assumed it varied with size.

    I think BBM asked about how the BMZ engraving looked:

    Bibliobob and I were chatting in Wisconsin about SL and how much we enjoy riding SL framed bicycles.

    I believe his very nice Medici is SL and he reports a great ride from that frameset.

    I can easily see several options for builds Aaron, she's a looker.

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    Fat Guy on a Little Bike KonAaron Snake's Avatar
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    I'm still trying to figure out the direction...everything has +/_. I feel like I'm in Notes From the Underground

    I have enough bikes - I can wait on this (but probably won't). The first priority is getting my wife's new bike taken care of. Ended up with a Panasonic DX-3000...having it powder coated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out the direction...everything has +/_. I feel like I'm in Notes From the Underground
    I hope I don't have to start a "Why would someone do this to a Palo Alto ? " thread..........................
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    Nice frame, although I must say I was a bit disappointed. From the title, I was expecting an early Carlsbad Masi

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    The easiest path forward would be drop bars, barcons and the 6sp Campy gruppo I have laying around. Toss on a rear rack and call it a day. I generally have not been pleased with the drops/barcons combination.

    Basically I'm thinking of the following combinations:

    Mustache bars/barcons
    Albatross bars/barcons
    Albatross/thumbies
    Positano/thumbies
    drops/barcons

    Another possibility for it is definitely out there...

    Milano or risers...deore 7sp trigger shifters, Deore triple crank, 7sp RX100 derailleurs and 700c 7sp index wheels. I was going to build my wife's frame with that combination, but ended up with a different bike/frame and she likes it with the drop bars and 6sp index DT shifters.


    Quote Originally Posted by MetinUz View Post
    Nice frame, although I must say I was a bit disappointed. From the title, I was expecting an early Carlsbad Masi
    sorry to disappoint (and I'd rather have the Palo Alto, Masis aren't the big deal round' these parts).
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    Beautiful PA frame, Aaron, the paint looks flawless. You said it was a repaint didn't you? I used to lust after the Palo Alto frames and the components in their catalogues back in the late 70's. Always wanted to do a PA build. Congrats on the score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
    I generally have not been pleased with the drops/barcons combination.

    Another possibility for it is definitely out there...
    I've put together a couple of around-towners w/ MTB bars & Campy Bullet Shifters. I like this setup alot for jus' crusin'. My wife loves hers'...2d-bone! I recently upgraded my Windsor w/ NR calipers, NR wheels, Record brake levers & a new saddle (not shown in pic).

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