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    Senior Member VeloBrox's Avatar
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    Standardized Table of C&V Answers

    A real time-saver: Any time a question comes up, refer to this handy table. You can thank me later!

    - Post some pics, please.
    - Check Sheldon’s site.
    - That’s too good a bike to convert to fixie!
    - Seller is deluded. It’s worth $200, tops.
    - Velocals has the decals you need.
    - Regrease the bearings.
    - Models varied greatly from year to year.
    - Look at “completed auctions” on eBay.
    - It isn’t a PX10.
    - Use oxalic acid.
    - I guess you’ll just have to open it and see.
    - Check for serial numbers under the BB.
    - DON’T REPAINT IT!

    Did I forget anything?
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    1986 Peugeot PY10M
    1983 Trek 620
    1980 Peugeot PY10S (everyone needs two of these)
    1961 Monark 90320
    1953 Crescent modell nr. 11
    1942 Diamant modell nr. 11
    ...and a basement full of unrideable old stuff.

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    "It's worth what you paid."

    ^ offered in the "what's it worth" section by a few particularly unhelpful people...

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    Panaracer Pasala
    Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

    Viscount Aerospace Pro Trek 770 Cannondale Synapse

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    Now that you have a good list started you can figure out the macro commands for us so we don't have to type these out.

    A revision I'd suggest, "Pics or it didn't happen"

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    - Fork's bent. (My all time favorite, of course. )
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    Ridding the world of derailleurs, one bicycle at a time.

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    - Great patina!

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    $1.02
    Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

    Viscount Aerospace Pro Trek 770 Cannondale Synapse

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    Senior Member VeloBrox's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by photogravity View Post
    - Fork's bent. (My all time favorite, of course. )
    Best used on catalog pictures, of course
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    1983 Trek 620
    1980 Peugeot PY10S (everyone needs two of these)
    1961 Monark 90320
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    1942 Diamant modell nr. 11
    ...and a basement full of unrideable old stuff.

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    1. Make offers in person, in cash.

    2. Look harder (if you want a great deal).

    3. Check date codes, serial numbers are often useless.
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    Replace the rims with alloy
    Kool Stop pads
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    Yes, you can commute with that
    Look for an 80s Japanese Sports tourer with alloy rims
    Take photos of the drive side

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    Senior Member VeloBrox's Avatar
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    - All praise Suntour, Amen.
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    1986 Peugeot PY10M
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    1961 Monark 90320
    1953 Crescent modell nr. 11
    1942 Diamant modell nr. 11
    ...and a basement full of unrideable old stuff.

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    I HATE Ebay!/ You're not allowed to criticize Ebay!
    I grow old, I grow old. I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bibliobob View Post
    I HATE Ebay!/ You're not allowed to criticize Ebay!


    Grant Petersen is the Devil/Grant Petersen is the Messiah returned.

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    "What year is this Raleigh?" => Does it have a Sturmey-Archer rear hub (and/or GH6 front Dynohub)? If so, check it for a two-digit date code. Also check the frame for a serial number and verify said number against the following charts.

    -Kurt

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    For decals: H Lloyd Cycles

    http://www.hlloydcycles.com/

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    Flip it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    "What year is this Raleigh?" => Does it have a Sturmey-Archer rear hub (and/or GH6 front Dynohub)? If so, check it for a two-digit date code. Also check the frame for a serial number and verify said number against the following charts.

    -Kurt
    Another classic:

    - Your Raleigh isn't from the '30s. It's from the '70s.
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    1983 Trek 620
    1980 Peugeot PY10S (everyone needs two of these)
    1961 Monark 90320
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    1942 Diamant modell nr. 11
    ...and a basement full of unrideable old stuff.

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    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

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    How about:

    Another Peugeot U-08. In "as-is" condition, $50-$60. In refurbished, ready to ride condition, $140-$160.

    It's not a special rare Shimano SIS, it's a BCA!

    A threadless stem doesn't belong on a C & V bike, period!

    Pre 1980 French bikes, for the most part, only take French components, so if you need to find a missing component, other than brakes, bring a hefty wallet or a buy a spare French bike.
    Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. Albert Einstein
    2014 Additions: 1985 Trek 560, 1992 Trek Multitrack 700 (my 2nd), 1994 Trek Carbon 2200, Peugeot PX-10, 1981 Schwinn Voyager, 1989 Bridgestone RB-1

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    What??? Only 2 wheels? jimmuller's Avatar
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    The seat clamp is backwards.
    That splash bar tape has to go.
    That's not a cassette, that's a freewheel.
    Real cyclists use toe clips.
    jimmuller

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    "Keep both bikes."

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    No, it's not worth upgrading unless you're getting parts from a donor bike.

    It's a good deal but only if it fits you.

    It's a good price for a keeper but not for a flipper.
    Please email me rather than sending me a private message. My address is noglider@pobox.com

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    It's utterly worthless, send it to me and I will get rid of it for you.
    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
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    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

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    Hillary Stone has great stuff but is a terrible communicator
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