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Old 08-17-12, 11:06 PM   #1
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Alex Singer... or repainted Peugeot?

Hello. I recently bought a bike from a seller in California. I got the bike in the mail, and it doesn't quit make sense. It looks to be repainted, and the lugs don't seem to be up to Alex Singer standards. The drop outs are stamped, rather than cast, there is no serial number. All the parts, threads, and diameters are French (fork inner diameter, BB threads. seatpost diam 25.8).

The top tube has two cable runners
-There is a generator braze on mount
-fork crown looks cheap
-It looks like a Peugeot PX50

Let me know what you guys think, but I think I bought a fake Alex Singer.

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Old 08-17-12, 11:23 PM   #2
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I don't no anything about Alex Singer bikes but yes this is a repaint over bad original French paint. The lugs look mid level French and the strait pipe treatment on the rear drops looks low end. I hope you didn't pay a whole lot for this bike.
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Reminds me of my lady's French-only PX 45. But you know this after our length investigative discussion on the phone.

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Looks pretty similar to Jeunet style. I mean I'm no expert, but I'd bet certainly not a real Singer....Hope you can work that out with the seller....!

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Singer just rolled over in his grave an alivit schwinn approved rear derailleur mon dieu
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Looks pretty similar to Jeunet style. I mean I'm no expert, but I'd bet certainly not a real Singer....Hope you can work that out with the seller....!

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Yes, The lug work does look a lot like that done on most Jeunets the front lugs match a Jeunet but the rear dropouts are very different Jeunets had fairly nicely done bullet style treatment even on the low end models.
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I hope you didn't pay a whole lot for this bike.
It looks like the auction closed at $3100.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...ectorid=229466

Here is a full non drive side pic.

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NOT a Peugeot
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grahamss210 is the OP and Ebay seller....
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grahamss210 is the OP and Ebay seller....
Interesting...
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So the OP,grahamss210 on both eBay and bikeforums, sold this bike on eBay on August 17. Then made this post on August 18 here. Yikes.
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so the op,grahamss210 on both ebay and bikeforums, sold this bike on ebay on august 17. Then made this post on august 18 here. Yikes.
ok, wth?!?
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Old 08-18-12, 06:30 AM   #13
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So, Graham ...would you like to talk?
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I want to hear from the person who paid over $3,000.00 for it.
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I think that bike originally sold for $1500 not 3K

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...vip=true&rt=nc

Sure doesn't look like an Alex Singer nor a Pug, looks like a cheap gas pipe impostor.
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It looks like the auction closed at $3100.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...ectorid=229466

Here is a full non drive side pic.

Even though the above link still works, it brings you to a summary of the auction. If you click on "See original listing", it seems it has been removed. Don't know if that's normal.
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To amend my post immediately above:

It says that the seller ended the auction.

Maybe he cancelled it early over concerns?
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Maybe he cancelled it early over concerns?............
Seems logical. If it were larger and $100, I'd like to have it and paint "ITSNOTA" on the top tube.

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To amend my post immediately above:
It says that the seller ended the auction.
Maybe he cancelled it early over concerns?
Aahhh, I think your right.
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Bought an "Alex Singer" labeled bike.
Tried to sell it on ebay for a tidy profit.
Got lots of emails saying "NOT!"
Ended the auction early.
Came here to ask.
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Still further intrigue..... The OP/Buyer/ Seller claims he bought the bike frol Calif but the auction (before being pulled) shows TX as the item location. Weird.

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So.... It seems that OP bought it from Cal, hoped to flip it, found out its not what he thought and ended the auction (amidst plenty of cursing I imagine) and is now trying to....?

A. Get with the original seller for a refund
B. Chalk it up to experience
C. Unload it (heaven forbid) on the local market
D. All of the above

No matter how you slice it though, it pretty much sucks for the OP.


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Yeah, I think the OP is the one who has been scammed, not the scammer. Sucks, I hope it was purchased via eBay.

edit: I see that it was indeed purchased through eBay, I hope the OP updates us with how the issue is resolved, I am curious to see how eBay/Paypal handles this

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..... I hope the OP updates us with how the issue is resolved, I am curious to see how eBay/Paypal handles this
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