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subscribing. looking for something with not more than a 23" standover for my tall 5 year old, though preferably a hair smaller.

noglider 

@leegf just bought an Olmo on eBay from someone in Italy and had me tune it up. I'll let him post the pictures, which he hasn't shot yet. I still have it, though. I should test ride it before I hand it back.

velofinds

Here is the bike in question:



(More here: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ed-s-bike.html)

I'll continue posting any that I come across, like this one:

Vintage 70's Itoh Kids 45 cm Steel Frame Road Bike 24" Wheels | eBay

Doesn't look great, but it's a start.

velofinds

This is interesting. As is often the case with these things, it's located in Italy, but the seller ships to "tutti il mondo."

bici corsa Vicini da bambino Vintage | eBay

velofinds

This is a neat girl's bike for anyone willing to take on a project.

Vintage Motobecane 600A Junior Bike | eBay

velofinds

This is our modified Peugeot M46, the Mixte version of the Peugeot C46 boy's bike. As you can see, it has been re-imagined as a single-speed townie. I know not many will agree but I, for one, think it's better that way. The original components (some of which have been retained) were fairly crappy, and the bike shed a lot of weight.

LeicaLad 

Nice. What is the length of those crank arms? They look long-ish for that frame.

I like the townie set-up. I think any 24" set up will be rider-specific. imho, anyway.

:-)

noglider 

That's a very good looking mixte! And you shoot really good pictures.

Single pivot brakes require more hand pressure than other types, so pay attention to whether your wife is happy with them. Dual pivots are easy to install and are easier to actuate.

I see there is a lot of clearance around the wheels, so if she rides in the wet, she might like it if the bike had fenders.

LeicaLad 

And where DOES one find fenders for a 24" wheel frame? Just curious, 'cause it's a great idea.

velofinds

Thanks guys! @LeicaLad, the crank arms are 152mm. I just checked.

velofinds

This one looks very nice. I hope someone here gets it-

Fuji Junior 10 Speed Road Bike 1985 17" Frame 24? Wheels Blue Steel | eBay

velofinds

This one is interesting, to say the least. Needs TLC.

Vintage RARE Jack Taylor Junior Racer Bicycle 1964 | eBay

CycleryNorth81

This Fuji Junior is listed in Chicago CL for $25.

Fuji Junior Road Bike --Good Condition

Road Fan

I think Kermit needs a quality jr road bike, too.

Road Fan

Regarding a primer, Tony Oliver discussed design considerations for small bicycles and frames in his book, "Touring Bicycles."

If you look at the bikes here, especially the blue Peug Mixte single shown on Page 8 of this thread (or maybe later), you can see a few features Oliver mentioned - high-looking BB, needs to be set based on ground clearance with a crank length, and with down tube/front wheel clearance in mind. Also affected by down tube is the head tube angle. You can see on the Peug that it is well laid back. It might have had bigger wheels to begin with, since the wheel clearances to look quite large.

On the Merckx on the first page of the thread you can see that the seat tube is quite laid back. This specification might just be Eddie's style, or it could be to establish enough reach to cockpit, or ... ? Chainstays can also become long to accommodate panniers, wheel-seat tube clearance, and possibly fore-aft weight balance.

Pivot brakes apply lateral and twisting forces to seat stays. A seat stay bridge near the brake pivots (CP, canti, or V) can help the rear Cps or cantis to respond firmly without added mush due to frame flex.

velofinds

SO COOL, but you may want to sit down for the asking price.

Vintage Guerciotti Lugged Steel Road Bicycle 24" Wheels Great for Kids | eBay

LeicaLad 

Do the math on the components, and the price makes more sense. Still high for a junior bike, but the Dura Ace crank must be very hard to source, eh?

Darn cute, but the kid better be really into biking!

ymmv, of course.

LeicaLad 

Here's a Cinelli. Looks like it's had an interesting life.

Cinelli Bici Bicicletta Epoca Corsa Bimbo Vintage Bicycle Bike Velo Ancienne | eBay

Personally, I like the junior mixte bikes. Pixie mixte, I call 'em. As that beauty posted above.

velofinds

What? That's an amazing find!

Pukeskywalker

Peugeot C46 is wildly cool.

velofinds

Well, I got another one. I saw this thing and it was This one's a 20-inch, not a 24, so it's even smaller than the Olmo Here's a quick snap on ye olde dumbphone- I'll get better photos once it has pedals (note: does anyone have a pair for sale?), fresh bar tape, etc.



I am pretty sure I am using these little things as proxies for full size bikes since they're only a fraction of the cost and take up less space in my small apartment

velofinds

This is a very cool little touring bike with a reasonable opening bid. In the item description, the seller indicates he will ship worldwide for €50. Hope somebody here gets it.

super kleines Kinderrennrad ca.20Zoll sehr selten | eBay

delcrossv

Those are 20" wheels? 440 (500A) or 451's? What's standover for that? We have a "Junior Professional" with 540 tubulars, the 9 y.o. daughter was unbeatable on it. Then a framebuilder friend of ours built her this- and there's no going back: 19 mph avg for 20 miles

velofinds

Sorry to say, but I don't know for sure. The Nisi rims don't say, and if the Vittoria tubulars ever did, they don't anymore since the lettering wore off. With the tire inflated, the diameter measures just over 20" from end to end. Standover is a shade under 25.5".

More photos here.

Any photos? Would love to compare! I'd also like to thank you for the part that you played here.. some of the great photos that you posted helped to feed the addiction for sure

delcrossv

Glad to help! No kid should have to suffer with a dog of a bike.

Sportaid has tires for you (Panaracers): 20" x 18mm Panaracer Tubular Rapide 140g Black on Sale with 120% Low Price Guarantee
They're also pretty good for 24" tubulars.

Here's ours: (now has clipless)