Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Weinmann Center Pull Brakes and differences in models

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Weinmann Center Pull Brakes and differences in models

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-15-12, 03:13 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,514
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 231 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Weinmann Center Pull Brakes and differences in models

i have a Weinmann 750 Vainqueur 999 front brake and im trying to mount it to a mid 80s schwinn sprint. The pads bottom out and wont go any higher. THe pads barely touch the rim. That said.......is the 750 Long Reach? I see they made a model 610 as well. Im wondering if that is the shorter model? I havent found much. Maybe the schwinn sprint needs side pull or DP brakes instead? Ive got rear weimann that works just fine. THe front however is too long. DId they make different lengths?
scale is offline  
Old 09-15-12, 03:53 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Michael Angelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hurricane Alley , Florida
Posts: 3,903

Bikes: Treks (USA), Schwinn Paramount, Schwinn letour,Raleigh Team Professional, Gazelle GoldLine Racing, 2 Super Mondias, Carlton Professional.

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Liked 30 Times in 22 Posts
Looks like you need a 610 in the front.
Michael Angelo is offline  
Old 09-15-12, 04:08 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Chicago Al's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago, the leafy NW side
Posts: 2,477

Bikes: 1974 Motobecane Grand Record, 1987 Miyata Pro, 1988 Bob Jackson Lady Mixte (wife's), others in the family

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked 154 Times in 78 Posts
+1 You've got it right, 610 is short reach, 750 long reach, a very common setup.
__________________
I never think I have hit hard, unless it rebounds.

- Dr Samuel Johnson
Chicago Al is offline  
Old 09-15-12, 07:07 PM
  #4  
feros ferio
 
John E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Posts: 21,793

Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;

Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1390 Post(s)
Liked 1,322 Times in 835 Posts
My Nishiki took 610 front / 750 rear, which allowed me to use either 700C tubulars or 27" clinchers. This seems to have been an English thing, as I have seen French bikes w/ more even front vs rear brake reach. If there is any difference, it is invariably the rear that is longer than the front, which would cause faster closure at reduced leverage in back.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
John E is offline  
Old 09-16-12, 04:00 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
VeloBrox's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 378

Bikes: 1951 Armand Carlsen, 1969 DBS Deluxe, 1949 Diamant, 1978 DBS Winner Tandem, 1955 Herkules... to infinity and beyond!

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
I too have seen several (older) bikes which need more brake reach in the back than in the front. I always though it had something to do with fender clearance. Almost all bikes have vertical "dropouts" at the fork, so you just pop the wheel in straight up. With horizontal dropouts in the back you need more clearance to wiggle the wheel in, therefore it would make sense with a heightened brake bridge. I swear I've seen original specs dictating Weinmann 610 in the front and 750 in the back.
VeloBrox is offline  
Old 09-16-12, 08:02 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Grand Bois's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pinole, CA, USA
Posts: 17,392
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 443 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 27 Times in 25 Posts
That makes sense to me.
Grand Bois is offline  
Old 09-16-12, 08:27 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Michael Angelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hurricane Alley , Florida
Posts: 3,903

Bikes: Treks (USA), Schwinn Paramount, Schwinn letour,Raleigh Team Professional, Gazelle GoldLine Racing, 2 Super Mondias, Carlton Professional.

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Liked 30 Times in 22 Posts
Weinmann 610's are very inexpensive, they are lots of them on Ebay. I have a few.
Michael Angelo is offline  
Old 09-16-12, 05:53 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
VeloBrox's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 378

Bikes: 1951 Armand Carlsen, 1969 DBS Deluxe, 1949 Diamant, 1978 DBS Winner Tandem, 1955 Herkules... to infinity and beyond!

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Bit off topic, but related: Does anybody know whether the Gran Compe 610s are comparable in performance to regular Dia-Compe 610s? I know the GCs are CNC machined and the old 610s were forged, but apart from that?
VeloBrox is offline  
Old 09-16-12, 06:04 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Michael Angelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hurricane Alley , Florida
Posts: 3,903

Bikes: Treks (USA), Schwinn Paramount, Schwinn letour,Raleigh Team Professional, Gazelle GoldLine Racing, 2 Super Mondias, Carlton Professional.

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Liked 30 Times in 22 Posts
Should work just fine
Michael Angelo is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
specialmonkey
Classic & Vintage
8
04-20-18 08:51 PM
agmetal
Bicycle Mechanics
6
01-23-16 09:53 AM
GravelMN
Bicycle Mechanics
8
08-15-14 12:31 PM
noglider
Classic & Vintage
38
12-21-12 02:44 PM
Tandem Tom
Bicycle Mechanics
2
07-24-12 06:48 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.