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    Quote Originally Posted by hubert288 View Post
    Hi, l have just acquired a RIH Sport no. 5632 which looking at your chart dates it around 1959. The bike was raced by its second owner Peter Chew from 1963 to 1983 when it was replaced by a Daccordi. I will post a photo when l learn how to. The bike was repainted in 1979 in a metallic green and gold. Probably depicting Australian colours. In 1983 the wheels and group set were raided for the Daccordi so the frame sat in a garage for the next 30 years. I have now fitted it with campy wheels 27`` and campy steel crank with GS derailluars. The brake levers and gear selectors were with the bike, SG levers and campy end of bar shifters. Great bike to ride.
    Welcome, @hubert288! Sounds good. It's always nice to have some history with the bike. Looking forward to the pictures. The best way to show them here is to upload them to a picture hosting site (such as FLICKR, or Photobucket), and then link to them from here using the 'Insert Image' icon. Choose 'From URL' and un-check 'Retrieve File etc.'. Then they show up nice and big.
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    Ik heb een RIH met framenummer 2194. Iemand enig idee uit welk jaar deze fiets is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edekker1970 View Post
    Ik heb een RIH met framenummer 2194. Iemand enig idee uit welk jaar deze fiets is?
    Welcome, i will type the answer in Dutch.

    Ze zijn bij RIH sport bezig hun archief te digitaliseren en hebben goede data over alle gebouwde fietsen dus ze kunnen je vast wel helpen als je een mailtje stuurt.

    mail@rihsportamsterdam.nl

    Het adres voor als je langs wil gaan


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    Phone 020 624 2303

    We zijn hier gek op foto's en ik ben heel benieuwd naar hoe je fiets er uit ziet

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    Quote Originally Posted by pullup View Post
    We zijn hier gek op foto's en ik ben heel benieuwd naar hoe je fiets er uit ziet
    Guess this is it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
    Guess this is it.
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    Very nice bike, not sure about the repaint though.

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    Hi all, any idea as to what this frame's pedigree might be?

    Not sure whether the paint is original. Judging from the serial, she's a late 1960s model that was built by Fongers (?)

    The head tube is stamped with "118K", there are no markings on the bottom bracket, there's "REYNOLDS 531" stickers on the seat tube and fork legs, and the down tube decal reads "BUSTRAAN HOLLAND". Dropouts are Campagnolo.

    Thanks in advance!

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    The K would make it 1967 Fongers RIH. Looks like a nice frame! Are you going to build it up?
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    Hello all classic bikes fans

    I have gotten a RIH bike from a friend who lives close to Groningen. I have cleaned it, and lubrificated all the parts and refreshed the wheels with new spokes. It has Mafac dural forge brakes, luxe Citam stem, Steenbergen/A. Schotte steer, Huret Allvit 5 gears, Nervar chainwheel, Normandy hubs. It has a blue RIH plate on the front, RIH Amsterdam written on it. Further it has the Rih on both sides with the bustraan amsterdam in between. The are nu numbers ingraved at the place where normally the RIH amsterdam or Fongers are engraved. At the bottom of the headset on the left side i find the number 60.....at the lug on top of the seatpost I find the number 73....at the seatpost self i find a really ingraved number O5567 (zero or the letter O) and maybe followed by a K or X or this is some kind of damage...!!! This number can also be some kind of anti theft registration number. I am really happy riding the bike. I am born in 1968 in the Westerstraat, Amsterdam...almost above the RIH shop. Would like to know some more.... A man who has worked in the Fongers factory say to me it's not a Fongers but one made for sure in Amsterdam....and somebody from RIH said that he thinks it's not made in Amsterdam. Who know more...!!! I will add some more photo's soon!DSC02807 - Version 2.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by compay View Post
    Welcome, Compay!

    That's an interesting bike you've got there. From your description it sounds very much like it dates from the sixties, which which would mean either Amsterdam or Groningen. My guess is that '60' and '73' are the down tube and seat tube angles. If the decals are original, I would say 1968 or later.

    Could you post more pictures of the details of your frame? Nice big pictures of the frame details would really help us with the identification.
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    hello, thanks for the reply. Here some more photographs. Strange for me after seeing a lot of RIH and Fongers-RIH. I see some quite old lugs at the headposts. The lugs at the Fongers-Rih are more simple formed. But I am not an expert. Thats why i am on this forum to share my RIH to expand the knowledge of this bike. I have taken a look at all the parts. Quite difficult because some parts are made for a long period...and can also be added later to this frame...or vice versa the bike is not that old but the old parts where still used because they were still in stock.DSC05466 - Version 2.jpgDSC05471 - Version 2.jpgDSC05472 - Version 2.jpgDSC05473 - Version 2.jpgDSC05474 - Version 2.jpgDSC05475 - Version 2.jpgDSC05476 - Version 2.jpgDSC05478 - Version 2.jpgDSC05480 - Version 2.jpgDSC05482 - Version 2.jpgDSC05485 - Version 2.jpgDSC05490 - Version 2.jpg

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    some more photo's
    ps forgot to take one of the number written on the bottom of the bracket
    there you can find the number 181

    for me its a mystery...it has no 4 digit RIH number on the headsets,
    but also no 3 digit Fongers/Rih number and letter at the headpost

    than it can be a RIH cove...but to be honest with the parts mounted and the form of the lugs
    the RIH plate at the headset that says Amsterdam (i believe the blue plate at a RIH cove says RIH Holland)
    maybe i have to remove the paint at the front lug headset to see if there is a number on it...?

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    Is there a tubing decal? What ends and dropouts?
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    Thanks for the additional pictures, @compay. They don't really help me yet, though. I haven't been able to match the lugs with anything I have on file so far, and the absence of a serial number on the lower headlug makes me believe that this particular frame was neither built in Amsterdam nor in Groningen.

    Which leaves two possibilities: either it is not a RIH, or it is an early Cové frame. What puzzles me is that Cové only started building them in '73, and this bike looks decidedly earlier, especially the curve of the forks. Cové did use the Nervar cranks and Huret transmission on their builds though.

    Do you perhaps have a better picture of the fork crown?
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    hello non fixie en elev 12k

    there is nu tubing decal (for so far i understand what that means !!) so in dutch er is geen type vermelding...the only name you can find is RIH. Forgot to mention that on the bottom of the bracket is the number 181. I submit another photograph and the same photograph with the crop of the front. Hope to hear from you it's quite interesting for me. Also include a photo from a RIH cove...the lugs look the same but for the rest the frame and parts look much younger. By the way I believe that this RIH cove is handbuild..DSC02541 - Version 2.jpgDSC02541 - Version 3.jpgrihvenlocustommade.jpg
    If you take a good look the lugs used for the headpost are the same as mine. The fork is totally different...also the letters used for RIH are much more modern. The fork is quite straight also in contrast with mine which is much more curved.Quite a mystery. Also heard from somebody at the forum VintageR that the RIH cove did not had Amsterdam written on the the blue RIH plate at the headsets...but RIH Holland
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    Thanks, @compay. I'm stumped. It doesn't look like any RIH I've seen before (which says very little, I might add).

    Without the decals I would say it's a late sixties, maybe early seventies, second tier semi-racing bike, from Holland, or maybe Belgium. But not a RIH.

    Whatever it is, I like it, and I'd love to know what it is.

    Anyone?
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    yes it's quite a story...when i look at the bicycle I assume the paint is original and also the name RIH is not added...paint and letters look really made at the same time.
    Most interesting the lugs of the headset are exactly the same (for so far I can see) with the RIH cove. But more interesting these lugs look also more to the lugs they used in
    early sixties....while the lugs from RIH fingers and RIH amsterdam from late sixties/early seventies look more simple....

    I cannot believe it's not a RIH at all. Also the blue plate at the front looks really original and not added later...hope to hear more from other race bikes fans

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    The head badge is not mounted with copper nails. According to this thread: Fiets.nl ? Toon onderwerp - RIH Project Athena it is not a RIH from Amsterdam.

    'Op Het balhoofdplaatje staat 'Holland': dat plaatje werd gebruikt in Venlo, maar de nagels zijn koper: die werden alleen in de Westerstraat gebruikt.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brands View Post
    The head badge is not mounted with copper nails. According to this thread: Fiets.nl ? Toon onderwerp - RIH Project Athena it is not a RIH from Amsterdam.

    'Op Het balhoofdplaatje staat 'Holland': dat plaatje werd gebruikt in Venlo, maar de nagels zijn koper: die werden alleen in de Westerstraat gebruikt.'
    op internet vind ik nu een foto van een RIH uit amsterdam....waarbij de head badge niet is ingeslagen met koperen nagels...zie hier op de fiets op deze link

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/412842...57633492581102

    ook interessant deze foto van een Jan Nieuwenhoff (also a dutch framebuilder from the Jordaan) mijn frame lijkt in zoverre ik het kan zijn exact op deze...pedalen zijn ook exact dezelfde...JNA1957.jpg

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