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Old 10-20-12, 01:42 PM
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Correct stem for a 1973 Raleigh Professional??

Continuing with my rebuild of my 1973 or 1974 (can't tell which) Raleigh Professional, what about the stem? What would be the maker, length, width, and other stuff I should know about before making a purchase on ebay? I've found on the Internet references to Weinmann alloy and Cinelli stems, but what came from the factory?

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The OEM stem was a 3TTT Record. I'm not sure if they tailored the length to the frame size or not.
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+1 on what T-mar wrote. The '73 Raleigh Comp I had came with a 105mm 3ttt record stem. Few would complain about a period correct GB or Cinelli stem on the Professional.

If this is a rider, buy the stem that you think would fit you best. The tt is 57cm.
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Also, be aware that the 3TTT Record requires a hard to find 7mm Allen key.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Also, be aware that the 3TTT Record requires a hard to find 7mm Allen key.
Not hard to find at all. Sears has them as does SnapOn. Harbor Freight offers a complete set including a 7mm for under $10.
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Not hard to find at all. Sears has them as does SnapOn. Harbor Freight offers a complete set including a 7mm for under $10.
7mm allen is a standard automotive size used on many European brake calipers btw.
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Is this the one...? I had it installed on my Masi, but the bike was too small. Today, the stem, Giro De Sicilia handlebars and Campy Barcons sit, collecting dust in The Old Shed.

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https://www.kurtkaminer.com/1973raleighcat_22_lg.jpg

From Kurt's site.
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That's it, Randy.
BTW, what width are those Giro de Sicilia bars? My Raleigh had something super skinny on it, like 37 or 36.5 IIRC.
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I guess we can't interest you in a period-correct AVA Stem of Death?

I suspect most of them were 22.0mm instead of 22.2 = 7/8", anyway.
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If it were mine, I would do a Cinelli 1A. Depends on whether you are treating this as a rider, or wanted something period correct. My 3TTT like that (RRA) became creaky, so I switched it out. In keeping with John E's post, I switched it to a Modolo death stem. Still here

Probably could have fixed it, but at the time i wasn't interested.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
Is this the one...? I had it installed on my Masi, but the bike was too small. Today, the stem, Giro De Sicilia handlebars and Campy Barcons sit, collecting dust in The Old Shed.

dusty bars/stem for sale? ive got one of these that needs some too!
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O.K., but 7mm is not in the Park Tool folding tool repertoire.
Nor is it in the original Allen key automotive set of metric wrenches. (jumps from 6 to 8mm)

Glad to know where to find it now, though, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Peugeotlover
O.K., but 7mm is not in the Park Tool folding tool repertoire.
Nor is it in the original Allen key automotive set of metric wrenches. (jumps from 6 to 8mm)

Glad to know where to find it now, though, thanks.
3TTT stem was standard as others have said. Thanks to the observation about the 7mm size my tiny Topeak tool kit now has a 7mm bit - I had not noticed the odd size when wrenching in my garage because I have a full set of all Allan sizes for my socket set. Glad I wasn't on the road somewhere needing it when I found out that no kits have that size. Suppose I could have wrapped a 6mm in some tire patch foil and pounded it in, but now I don't have to. Thanks again for mentioning it, probably saved me some grief one day.

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You can get a set of Craftsman ball ends for around $20, comes with a 7mm. A bit expensive, but better than Park and Craftsman = lifetime warranty.
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Originally Posted by kaliayev
You can get a set of Craftsman ball ends for around $20, comes with a 7mm. A bit expensive, but better than Park and Craftsman = lifetime warranty.
Yep, that is what I have in addition to several other Craftsman Allen rods socket sets (some weird computer ones too). When I work in my shop on a bike, I always use a socket set on anything that might require some torque which saves my Park tools from wear and tear. Never noticed the odd 7mm size, I know I took that bolt out and cleaned/greased it, so I am really glad this thread brought the subject up.

I am that guy on the trail that has the tool and spare parts for everything and am delighted to help out a fellow rider in need - something like this would really PMO if I didn't have it when I needed it FOR MY OWN BIKE (emphasis added).

No, I am not prepared to replace a BB on the trail, but if I tag along as the pit crew for a buddy in a race I have been ready to throw that down if needed.
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