Which Colnago ?
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Which Colnago ?
Hi all, I just bought a Colnago and wonder if anyone can identify it ? Would also appreciate some suggestions on period campagnolo components. I'm new to bike building so any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Need more pics. Seat cluster including stay caps, both bridges on the rear triangle, and head tube lugs from top and sides. I don't remember (age issue), but this is earlier than 80 as the cable routing is above the BB. There are no SN to id the frame but this looks like a super. Someone better than myself can ID based on the shape of the BB cut out. I am perplexed at the three cable braze ons on the TT. Usually there are only 2.
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I haven't picked up the frame yet as I bought it on ebay yesterday rather impulsively !. I was hoping it wasn't a fake. Does the colnago cut out on the BB mean it's real ?
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Save your money - it's not authentic. The clover cutout is not correct, there's a round window in the BB shell which should be oval and there are three top tube brake cable guides, for starters.
The clover cutout differences between this and my attached pic are subtle, but they are there.
Authentic clover cutout, 1980's style:
Anyways, it's missing the fork, no? Not much point there - it'll cost you an arm and a leg just to find one that will match up.
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The clover cutout differences between this and my attached pic are subtle, but they are there.
Authentic clover cutout, 1980's style:
Anyways, it's missing the fork, no? Not much point there - it'll cost you an arm and a leg just to find one that will match up.
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Yeah, no fork. Anyone else think is a fake ?- will save me some money if I can get some more opinions !
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If the cutout is the only clover on the bike, it is fake. Typically Colnago will be embossed on the seat stay caps, chain stays near the BB and have clover cut outs on the HT lugs.
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I sure would like to see more pics before I handed over money for it.
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It's a fake. I knew it before I saw DD's post. That said, it looks like a decent frame. It would still be worth riding, maybe as a fixed gear or every day bike, something you can lock up and not worry too much about.
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thanks for the replies everyone. I think the consensus is that this is a fake. I guess it was too good to be true - thankfully I haven't handed over any money yet.
For future reference, would you guys be kind enough to list what I should be looking for on a vintage Colnago frame to ensure it's genuine ?
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For future reference, would you guys be kind enough to list what I should be looking for on a vintage Colnago frame to ensure it's genuine ?
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Here is the bottom bracket clover and oval cutout on the seat tube lug.
Here is the cutout on the down tube lug.
Seat stays on later (late '70's and '80's) bikes will have Colnago embossed on them.
Although this photo doesn't show it, the rear brake bridge will have a clover embossed on it.
Colnago should be embossed on both chain stays, not just a decal.
Here is the cutout on the down tube lug.
Seat stays on later (late '70's and '80's) bikes will have Colnago embossed on them.
Although this photo doesn't show it, the rear brake bridge will have a clover embossed on it.
Colnago should be embossed on both chain stays, not just a decal.
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There's also a flickr group, Molto Colnago, that has many different photos of a variety of Colnagos.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/359349@N20/
https://www.flickr.com/groups/359349@N20/
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I've asked the seller for some more details and pics of the embossing and lug details. Lovely looking bike 1 Lugnut !
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it's probably genuine. i've seen old ones with above the BB cable guides and three brake cable guides on the top tube... besides, i doubt there is much to be had in fixing up old well used average bike frames into old well used somewhat above average bike frames.
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Wasn't that same frame posted here a month or so ago?
My bad. It was a red fake: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...t=fake+colnago
My bad. It was a red fake: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...t=fake+colnago
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My 83 does not have embossing on the brake bridge. I have seen variations on this feature. I believe post 83 time frame is when you see the clover on the brake bridge. Don't know for sure (DKFS?).
1 Lugnut: You may have a Superissimo. I believe they differ from the supers by the chrome HT. Is your fork and rear stays chromed (DO may be indicator)?
1 Lugnut: You may have a Superissimo. I believe they differ from the supers by the chrome HT. Is your fork and rear stays chromed (DO may be indicator)?
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I have three Superisimos what I think is a mid 80's one dated 89 and a 90. They all have internal brake cable routing. Ed
1 Lugnut: You may have a Superissimo. I believe they differ from the supers by the chrome HT. Is your fork and rear stays chromed (DO may be indicator)?[/QUOTE]
1 Lugnut: You may have a Superissimo. I believe they differ from the supers by the chrome HT. Is your fork and rear stays chromed (DO may be indicator)?[/QUOTE]
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My 83 does not have embossing on the brake bridge. I have seen variations on this feature. I believe post 83 time frame is when you see the clover on the brake bridge. Don't know for sure (DKFS?).
Minus the fork & the doubt of the frame, the OP was wise to back out of that one...! There are others...
1 Lugnut: You may have a Superissimo. I believe they differ from the supers by the chrome HT. Is your fork and rear stays chromed (DO may be indicator)?
Minus the fork & the doubt of the frame, the OP was wise to back out of that one...! There are others...
1 Lugnut: You may have a Superissimo. I believe they differ from the supers by the chrome HT. Is your fork and rear stays chromed (DO may be indicator)?
A friend had brought me back a couple 2 Colnago servizio corse tubulars on a trip to Italy as a gift. By their construction, I believe they were made by Veloflex. The front one has flatted & I'd like to get it repaired. In all, the ride is superb...
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Hi all, I've been told this frame could be a Cornelo ! Anyone heard of them?
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From the two images shown early on, the lack of chain stay reinforcements is curious. I don't think its a Colnago at this time. I have a gut feeling it has been repainted as it has a front derailleur braze on that looks investment cast, early on they were stamped.
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I did a search on Ebay to see how the seller presented it, but I found no completed auction featuring this frame. OP: do you have a link to the auction? Some of us may feel the need to educate the current owner
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Oh, yeah! I found that last night searching out the OP's "Colnago" auction. I love that Colner, and it's in super shape - I'd have spent that money and been a happy camper, for sure
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