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Old 02-01-13, 04:36 PM
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Another mystery frame



Please help me identify this frame.

I'm told it's a Koga Miyata Pro, though I have my doubts, because I've never seen a KM with a semi-fastback seat stay cluster. It appears to be Tange racing bike tubing. It has forged Shimano dropouts, a British bottom bracket shell, and it fits a 27.2 mm seatpost. I bought it raw and cheap and thought I'd take a chance. It came with a Shimano 600 headset attached to a Tange unicrown fork model 188, I think, with a date code of 8L which stands of December 1988. The serial number on the bottom bracket shell is 89B2273.
I haven't found any brand with that configuration. It seems straight and solid. Rear spacing 126mm. That's all I know.

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Old 02-01-13, 04:41 PM
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Hi Mcoovelis. Other than a chromed frame you can't see any detail about this frame. Can you post some better and bigger pics? maybe a close of the seat stay caps, the headluggs, dropouts. What brand are the dropouts? What threading is the BB shell? Seatpost size?

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Old 02-01-13, 04:43 PM
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Uhmmmm... our eyes are not microscopes.....more, bigger, closer detail shots of the frame please......if we are to confirm that your suspicions are correct about the given ID.

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Looks sweet and serial number format almost certainly indicates Feb. 1989 manufacture, which is consistent with the fork being original. Send a personal message to forum member "T-mar" as he knows serial number formats better than anyone. He'll want better pictures too so that should be your first priority.
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here is a thread that will shows the kind of pics and information needed to try and get an ID. Unfortunately this frames drop out tag still say Jane Doe.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...quot?highlight=
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Old 02-04-13, 09:39 PM
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Sorry about the worthless photo. I don't have the frame in hand. It's with the painter. I wanted to resolve my doubts about the frame before i went with the Koga Miyata ID. But I think I solved the mystery on another thread which identified a frame with an identical serial number pattern (89B2273) and frame characteristics (Shimano EF dropouts, 600 components, Tange tubing and Tange unicrown fork) as a Centurion Prestige. The photos on the other thread confirm it, I think. As you can see from the Flickr photos, I discovered this about a day too late. It probably matters to purists, but I got the frame for 70 bucks and I'm just pleased to discover that it's a high quality steel frame. I'm putting Dura Ace and 600 components on it and riding it into my retirement...after I take off the KM decals, lest I offend Koga aficionados.


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+1, it's a perfect match for a 1989 Centurion Prestige. Too bad it lost the original marble paint, which was gorgeous.
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Thanks, T-Mar. Your confirmation seals the deal. It's actually a better frame than I thought it was when I bought it and decided to build it up. I think I'll be riding it by the weekend.
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