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Old 05-02-13, 04:45 PM
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I went out to the LBS on my lunchbreak on my Schwinn Prologue and picked up a couple items for the Univega Alpina...


Lightweight Salsa Flip-off's to replace my heavy original Shimano pieces, Brake levers ( so I can get rid of the Acera brake/shifter combo that someone put on before I owned the bike)

Now Im looking for a lightweight 8 speed wheelset with XT hubs. Probably something like a Mavic 220 or something. Ill drop weight from changing from a 7 speed freewheel to a 8 speed cassette in the rear. And Im looking at a couple XT rear derails on ebay that will replace my LX in the rear. Sub 23lbs here we come.
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FWIW: Measure the rear spacing on that Alpina. My 1988+/- Alpina Pro has 126mm spacing. Modern MTBs are usually 135mm, older are 130mm. Limited my choices unless I cold set it. Since it really is too small anyway, I left well enough alone.

My other mtbs all have 8/9/10 speed freehub, I run 7 speed cassettes on them with a spacer. This allows me to standardize. On my wife's bikes, I use the Tourney trigger shifters with flat bars (I have not won her over on drops), while I use the barcons in friction mode.

The Alpina Pro would make a great starting point. Mine is 2 to 2 1/2 pounds lighter than my 1992 Trek 950. If it was one size larger, I would be riding it for sure.
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I am trying for a Koga Miyata frameset right now. A friend of mine tempted me with it several months ago, and it's to the bone cheap. I could get it Friday/tomorrow night as he is passing through town, but I am flat broke at the moment. It should make a nice light rig, if I watch the component and wheel weight. Yep, spline triple butted rigid frame.,,,,BD

And of course there's the ancient possible Voris Dixon CW mtb frame too.... From a different friend. Something tells me it will not be light any way I plan to build it. But chrome and cool though, hehe.
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I approve of this thread. My Schwinn Mirada started off around 34 lbs if I remember right, and I've got it down to 28-29 lbs. Went single speed, Mavic double wall rims laced to cheapo cassette hub, 26x1.5" Kenda Kwests, alloy stem, bars, and seatpost, and E3 Form road saddle did that. Assuming I have a good bottom bracket, tomorrow I'm swapping the crank for a Bontrager Race with external bearings. I've also thought about building a lighter wheelset and getting better tires. If I ever see a 650c wheelset for cheap, I might be tempted to grab that and see what it does, could maybe get the bike down to 25 lbs with a ridiculously heavy frame and fork.

Awhile back I picked up a Raleigh Technium Peak frame, and it could be a good candidate to build something really light.
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Originally Posted by Chrome Molly

And a pic of the result...
that looks like a riot. Glad you got the mavic wheelset. The bike deserves it.

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Want.

Man, that turned out great.

Dan at GP has a couple more of these Croll mtb framesets in the basement.

A guy could likely talk him out of one.
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My lighter weight Wellgo pedals showed up.

222 grams.

Smoothest new pedals fresh out of the box I have bought.






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The spindle looks very Speedplayish. I hope they're less slippery than they look? I imagine a Dremel induced shoe gripping area might help. Nice looking though!,,,,BD


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how do they look installed? do they have holes for toe clips and straps?
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Originally Posted by frantik
how do they look installed? do they have holes for toe clips and straps?

I have a couple pics of mine on my alpina, ill post em gimme a sec.
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Originally Posted by andyfloyd
I have a couple pics of mine on my alpina, ill post em gimme a sec.
A couple new pics....lightweight Serfas seat, DX thumbies, Wellgo wr-1's
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I must admit, I really like the alloy bear traps I have on the bike right now. Very, very grippy.
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Originally Posted by wrk101

Are the cages smaller on these to save weight? Any chance you could post a picture of them next to another pedal (like an MKS Touring pedal) to compare sizes?
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Originally Posted by mainstreetexile
Are the cages smaller on these to save weight? Any chance you could post a picture of them next to another pedal (like an MKS Touring pedal) to compare sizes?

Look at my pics of my univega. I have had these pedals for over a year, they are stout and CNC'ed and cos 30 bucks.
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Originally Posted by wrk101
I must admit, I really like the alloy bear traps I have on the bike right now. Very, very grippy.
if they are the ones you've shown me a link to, they almost look like they have spikes!
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Originally Posted by andyfloyd
Look at my pics of my univega. I have had these pedals for over a year, they are stout and CNC'ed and cos 30 bucks.
Thanks, I saw your pictures, I was just wondering how big the platforms are compared to other pedals. I know the size of MKS Touring so I thought it would be a good reference for comparison. Measurements on the cage length and width would be nice, but I couldn't find them anywhere online.
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Originally Posted by mainstreetexile
Thanks, I saw your pictures, I was just wondering how big the platforms are compared to other pedals. I know the size of MKS Touring so I thought it would be a good reference for comparison. Measurements on the cage length and width would be nice, but I couldn't find them anywhere online.

When I get home I can do some measurements on them. I used to have some MKS platforms. I have some MKS pedals on my Panasonic however, I will take comparison pics for you later.
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do they have holes for toe clips? it doesnt look like it to me
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No provisions for toe clips. Its a balance of low price and light weight.

Go up another 1/2 pound or so, and I really like these alloy bear traps (and they appear ready for toe clips). I've got a green pair on my Cimmaron right now, and a blue pair on my wife's Paramount MTB.

I've bought several times from this seller (no connection with them).

Bear Traps:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VP-Bear-Trap...item43b68cc6a8

The WR-1s:




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Thanks for the picture Bill. If I'm reading that right, it looks like the cages are about 2.75" at the widest point? That's pretty thin, that probably explains the lower weight with just having less material. My MKS Touring look to be around 3.75, my Sakae Low-Fats are a little over 4", so I'm used to riding wider pedals than that.

How do you like the width/size of the platforms when you're riding? Is there a noticeable difference from what you usually ride?
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I'm going to take the Cimmaron on a trip this week. I'll take both sets of pedals with me.
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Originally Posted by Aemmer
I was stupid enough to put a Mountain bike together back in the day with a nod towards the light. Some things are just stupid to do if you weigh 225 lbs. As each piece broke I replaced it with quality and durability over weight. Give me a set of Phil Woods over a set of Hi-E's any day.
Man, I'm with you, I'm 220 lbs and have raced Clydesdale class for years as well as plenty of velodrome mad dashes, I've snapped cranks and bottom bracket shells on half a dozen frames. That said when I had a chance to go light weight, I went ultra light and ended up with a 14.8 pound single speed. The build was the product of 6 months of part hunting and a bit of sweat to get it all together... I was stoked on the end result, I felt like it topped the list of all my builds. At the core was a KGB titanium frame, imported and tagged "KGB" "Mig 3.3" (supposed 3.3 lb frame) by Montrose Bikes in LA in the mid-90's, I ran a FSA Ultimax ti bottom bracket, all the other parts were picked for aesthetic and function. The frame with the bottom bracket and Cane Creek headset weighed just a tick over 6 lbs. The finished ride was a slick collection of carbon, titanium, magnesium, and aluminum. I'm especially impressed by the bike's final weight coming in sub-15, 15 lbs. was my goal and to be under was a bragging rights at that point. However, the bike failed to hold up to the impressive weight and had so much flex that it reminded me of overdone pasta. I turned right around and sold it to a fly weight racer friend who still rides and loves the bike to this day.


I love your '93 Bonty Superlite single speed onespeedbiker, that one is a beauty! I have a similar '92 Race Lite Team edition single speed that I purchased from a former Bontrager team racer, C.K., back when Keith drove the team around in an old beat up station wagon. He was not happy to let it go but he was focusing on his company COHORT Skateboards (https://www.cohortusa.com/home.html), new "vintage" decks and pads for ramp and pool skating. Grab 'em if you still dig the 80's punk skateboard scene like I do at 42, granted I don't do a fraction of what I used to when I was pro but skateboarding with my little angel is better than it ever was back then! I did nothing to the set up, he had it dial'd perfectly... AccuTrax rigid fork, King headset, Salsa quill stem, USE XCR suspension seat post, all the rest was XTR aside from the XT v-brakes, and a SDG ti/Kevlar saddle (still my favorite). Keith made a custom bike for each of the team riders, he added the BMX/track drop out mod per C.K.'s request. This Bonty is one of my prized possessions, I love it! (Sorry for the lousy photo, one day I'll take better ones)
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Originally Posted by mainstreetexile
Thanks for the picture Bill. If I'm reading that right, it looks like the cages are about 2.75" at the widest point? That's pretty thin, that probably explains the lower weight with just having less material. My MKS Touring look to be around 3.75, my Sakae Low-Fats are a little over 4", so I'm used to riding wider pedals than that.

How do you like the width/size of the platforms when you're riding? Is there a noticeable difference from what you usually ride?
Well I have ridden MKS platforms and I have ridden the Wellgo WR-1 for over a year now. The MKS are larger/heavier and possibly more comfy on the feet ( if you have larger feet ). The Wellgo's grip really well actually and the smaller platform has never caused me to slip yet and I ride trails with them. I bought a new set for another bike and they look more similar to what Bill has, my older set thats on my univega looks more raw like it was taken out of the CNC and thats it. The newer model looks like its bead blasted or shot peened to increase strength but at the same time its thinner under the platform. Either way they are my favorite pedals, light and look great.
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Weight Weenies has a C&V-appropriate MTB entry: a '92 Klein that's 17.8lbs
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/articles.php?ID=68
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While on the subject of weight weenie listings... Doesn't compressed air in a tire add weight that is almost never listed in those cutsie itemized listings? Is there an official "plug" part where the difference between the whole and the sum of the parts is placed on those lists? Grease listed anywhere? Maybe they are just free form, but I can't see myself being that obsessed to weigh every little part. I tend to hold two items in my two hands, then switch them between hands. The lighter one gets put on the "better" bike, the heavier one usually sold. When I'm done picking from the pile, I reweigh the whole "better" bike. WW heresy I'm sure...
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My $3 ebay hanging luggage scale came in today. Seems the ti litespeed is a hair under 21# without pedals and the singlespeed fat chance is about 23#.

This $3 investment is going to cost me so much money.
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