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Old 05-24-13, 08:02 PM
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Peugeot odd ball frame....any idea's?

I have just picked this girl up and I know she is not that old but I need some help.

There is some amazing information out there on peugeot's but I cant finad anything on this.

The part that gets me is the atax seat post arrangement and the internal cable routing??? I thought the quill seatposts were used in mid 80's but I cant find anything with the internal cable set up. I know the decals are not og.

Does anyone else own something like this?




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What's on the fork crown? Any sort of design? I am wondering if it is even a Pug.
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Its a pug fork for sure. Which may well not be og... Did anyone else use these quill posts?
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Could be a Euro or Canadian market Peugeot from the mid 80's, judging from the fully chromed sloping crown fork which was used on may another Peugeots of that time and the internal routing of the rear brake cable.....although those graphics look older than what 83 and later Peugeots had on them, so they are most likely replacements atfer maybe a repaint, as you noted, as Peugeot usually clear coated over their frame decals. The stay ends at the rear dropouts look a little different from what was found on most Peugeots at that time though. Most had domed stay ends but this frame have nicer (IMO) chisel type stay ends, more typical on Gitanes of that time. Brifters and brake calipers looks to be later mods. Peugeot was the biggest user of those Simplex rear dropouts with the little round Delrin insert.
The Atax quill post was used on other mid level model Peugeots from around 85 and later. It should work OK but one will need to watch out to make sure that the Delrin plastic parts on the saddle rail clamp section of the post is still in good condition as those plastic parts are almost impossible to find, and the rail clamp cannot work without those Delrin parts. The post as a whole is pretty hard to find and can get expensive if you do find one for sale in good condition.
The 26.4 diameter of the post suggest metric tubing, The frame tubing could be Vitus. Could be 888 or maybe even SV980. as the details on the bike seems to suggest at least a mid level model frame.....

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Serial number?

Frame and fork would be mid 80's, decals are late 70's components are 90's. Peugeot only used internally expanding seat posts for a few years in the mid 80's on SV980 framed bikes but they only used internal rear cable routing on low/mid level sport bikes. From what I've seen both cable holes were on the same side of the TT, the left side, and were not gusseted. But, as with all things Peugeot anything is possible....if it is a Peugeot.
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Hey gents,

Sorry I dropped out, I went away for the weekend

Chombi, thanks for the input buddy. The internal cable was really throwing me. I think I/m happy enough to clean her up, put some later decals on and some dt shifters and use it as an everyday rider.

I have been searching for other companies that used quill posts and there does not seem to be many, at least not many that would be easily confused for this frame.

I'll post a pic when she is done! Thanks again
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Ok, so I've been having a little fun with this frame. Noticed this crack!


So I'm starting to strip it. So much for putting some cables on and rolling around! Also the fd hanger is a mod with a terrible braze job which I'm going to remove so I can fix the crack. I weighed it and the frame came in a 1720g and fork 623g and the tubes feel thin like a coke can. I also dug out the serial under the bb (under a heap of paint) which is B4 C7 93452 After looking through loads of Peugeot serials Im starting to think it may not be a pug. Anyone have any clues what it may be?
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Wow!, did not notice the tabbed FD mount. As you noted, the sloppy brazing might mean it's a later add by an owner after the frame left the factory. The frame being made of metric (most likely French) tubing also makes it less likely to be original as French tubed frames would have used a boss, instead of a tab to work with French derailleurs.
I'm thinking that the heat applied to braze the tab might have weakened the tube in that area, causing it to eventuallycrack. The only really correct fix I can think of is to have the seat tube replaced by a builder, but that will cost quite a bit and you have to weigh in if the frame is special enough to spend that kind of time and money on.
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The serial number indiactes 1984 or posssibly an early 1985 model manufactured in late 1984. I believe the key clue are the rear dropouts. They do not have eyelets or exhibit any evidence of them having been removed. They also do not appear to exhibit chrome under the paint. Given the serial number and these clues, a modified PSV10 would appear ot be the best candidate, as the lower models during this era had eyelets and the upper models had chomed dropouts. I'm not aware of any French, Canadian or USA models with the unique features of this bicycle.

However, the other possibility that must not be discounted is that it might be a custom frame from Peugeot's Prestige frame shop. I find it strange that they would use the same serialization format as the production frames, but it could account for features like the internal cable routing and different stay cap treatment.

Like Chombi, I'm thinking the repaint and era incorrect decals were the result of the new front derailleur tab, which was to get away from the Simplex boss mount.
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