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Tools for campy build
Im just wondering what kind of tools I will need to put my campy record BB on its 25.4, my nouvo record headset, an 8 speed camp cassete and some ergo shifters ? I have my tools not to far away I was wondering if it was worth making the trip to pick them up or get ones more suited to not harming the campy components ? if so what are some good tools to use in terms of the brand and where to get them ?
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For one build, I would take it to a reputable bike shop. Tools can get expensive fast.
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Went to 6 stores today to seek out a 14mm Allen key for a Campy Power Torque crankset... along my route, 2 LBS didn't have it, phoned a third, out of luck, phoned a fourth, out of luck, Sears had a set that included the tool but way too expensive, Home Depot, strike out, Napa auto, strike out, and another LBS was closed today. I should have just brought the bike to the first stop, the mechanic there is an ace but I'm stubborn as the rest of the codgers here in C&V and like to do my own wrenching... but it ain't cheap. Or easy.
Went to 6 stores today to seek out a 14mm Allen key for a Campy Power Torque crankset... along my route, 2 LBS didn't have it, phoned a third, out of luck, phoned a fourth, out of luck, Sears had a set that included the tool but way too expensive, Home Depot, strike out, Napa auto, strike out, and another LBS was closed today. I should have just brought the bike to the first stop, the mechanic there is an ace but I'm stubborn as the rest of the codgers here in C&V and like to do my own wrenching... but it ain't cheap. Or easy.
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Went to 6 stores today to seek out a 14mm Allen key for a Campy Power Torque crankset... along my route, 2 LBS didn't have it, phoned a third, out of luck, phoned a fourth, out of luck, Sears had a set that included the tool but way too expensive, Home Depot, strike out, Napa auto, strike out, and another LBS was closed today. I should have just brought the bike to the first stop, the mechanic there is an ace but I'm stubborn as the rest of the codgers here in C&V and like to do my own wrenching... but it ain't cheap. Or easy.
Went to 6 stores today to seek out a 14mm Allen key for a Campy Power Torque crankset... along my route, 2 LBS didn't have it, phoned a third, out of luck, phoned a fourth, out of luck, Sears had a set that included the tool but way too expensive, Home Depot, strike out, Napa auto, strike out, and another LBS was closed today. I should have just brought the bike to the first stop, the mechanic there is an ace but I'm stubborn as the rest of the codgers here in C&V and like to do my own wrenching... but it ain't cheap. Or easy.
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Im just wondering what kind of tools I will need to put my campy record BB on its 25.4, my nouvo record headset, an 8 speed camp cassete and some ergo shifters ? I have my tools not to far away I was wondering if it was worth making the trip to pick them up or get ones more suited to not harming the campy components ? if so what are some good tools to use in terms of the brand and where to get them ?
Park and a few others make cassette lock ring tools, you will for both just mentioned require a big Cresent wrench of course. I bought one that has its handle welded on, $50. plus shipping Alchemy Bicycle works.
For the Ergo shifters, a selection of allen wrenches, extra long work well. I paid the Snap-On tool price, and he came to my door.
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Im building it in a small town and it's highly unlikely that the one bike shop we have will even have proper tools let alone the knowledge to put it together properly and gently so I am looking for at the least some information to put together a vintage campy set up and at the least use a bottom bracket tool suited to my part! ?
In general there are 5 kinds of BBs. But since your talking CampI that leaves 3. But those 3 cover the last 60+ years of bike building and I think atleast 5 different tools.
Do you have a "standard" cup and cone BB (fixed cup/adjustable cup and spindle)? Do you have a cartridge? Which one of the 4 or so different ones? Or do you have one of the newer outboard bearing styles?
If you were more specific and posted a pic someone might offer to loan your the tool for postage.
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Strickie, if there are no good mechanics near you, then it's not a bad idea to get the tools so you can maintain your bike over time. Pictures will help and we can then recommend the correct tools. Some Record bottom brackets will require a hook wrench. Cartridge style square taper Record bottom brackets need a splined tool that will also fit the cassette for your 8 speed rear wheel. Park Tool sells a BBT-5C that may be one of the tools you will need. You'll need some good grease, I like Phil Wood waterproof grease. Depending upon your crankset, you'll need a good crank extractor tool. There are a few available, I like the Campagnolo branded one the best. Again, post some photos and don't be afraid to ask questions.
Rootboy, yes, 14mm for newer Campy Power Torque... and lucky me, I'll have to get a specialized gear puller when it comes time to remove the crank arms for maintenance, and a specialized bearing setter tool down the road if I live that long.
Rootboy, yes, 14mm for newer Campy Power Torque... and lucky me, I'll have to get a specialized gear puller when it comes time to remove the crank arms for maintenance, and a specialized bearing setter tool down the road if I live that long.
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So if your asking what tools you need... what makes you think your knowledge is any better than the local shop?
In general there are 5 kinds of BBs. But since your talking CampI that leaves 3. But those 3 cover the last 60+ years of bike building and I think atleast 5 different tools.
Do you have a "standard" cup and cone BB (fixed cup/adjustable cup and spindle)? Do you have a cartridge? Which one of the 4 or so different ones? Or do you have one of the newer outboard bearing styles?
If you were more specific and posted a pic someone might offer to loan your the tool for postage.
In general there are 5 kinds of BBs. But since your talking CampI that leaves 3. But those 3 cover the last 60+ years of bike building and I think atleast 5 different tools.
Do you have a "standard" cup and cone BB (fixed cup/adjustable cup and spindle)? Do you have a cartridge? Which one of the 4 or so different ones? Or do you have one of the newer outboard bearing styles?
If you were more specific and posted a pic someone might offer to loan your the tool for postage.
Here are the pics of the parts ?
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Thanks is this okay grease https://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en ? I just had some in the garage and thought it might work its pretty thick though. Also thanks a ton for the encouragement!
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Standard 1" threaded headset, and standard cup/cone BB.
For the BB, you will need a fixed cup wrench, a pin spanner for the adjustable cup, and a lock ring tool.
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...39_-1___202576
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...41_-1___202576
For the headset, in addition to installation of the cups into the frame, and the crown race onto the fork, you'll need some headset wrenches (probably 32mm) to adjust it. You can use a large crescent wrench for the top nut, but be careful. Also, some of the BB tool combinations also have a 32mm on the other end.
As you can see, you are looking at a minimum of $60 or so in tools, and that doesn't include the HS installation (google that, or check Sheldon Brown's site). Your LBS should have everything needed if you want to have them do this.
For the BB, you will need a fixed cup wrench, a pin spanner for the adjustable cup, and a lock ring tool.
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...39_-1___202576
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...41_-1___202576
For the headset, in addition to installation of the cups into the frame, and the crown race onto the fork, you'll need some headset wrenches (probably 32mm) to adjust it. You can use a large crescent wrench for the top nut, but be careful. Also, some of the BB tool combinations also have a 32mm on the other end.
As you can see, you are looking at a minimum of $60 or so in tools, and that doesn't include the HS installation (google that, or check Sheldon Brown's site). Your LBS should have everything needed if you want to have them do this.
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How long has the grease been sitting in the garage? That looks like it may be standard automotive "axle" grease, and while it will work OK, you might consider investing in a small tub of Mobil 1 from the auto parts store, or similar.
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Why the crank extractor for these cranks? If you do need one, you need the special one with the LH threads I am pretty sure. The imaged cranks are Corsa Record and have self contained fixing bolts and extractors, do grease them up though to help prevent galling while extracting, not the spindle tapers.
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Why the crank extractor for these cranks? If you do need one, you need the special one with the LH threads I am pretty sure. The imaged cranks are Corsa Record and have self contained fixing bolts and extractors, do grease them up though to help prevent galling while extracting, not the spindle tapers.
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For the BB. The tools I posted links to has the fixed cup/pin spanner as part of one tool (1st link). Many have a headset wrench as part of one of the tools (either the lockring tool or the fixed cup tool). You'll want at least one to hold the adjustable cup of the headset in place while tightening the lock nut. These are usually 32mm, but sometimes 36mm (maybe for 1 1/8"?) If you have some calipers, measure it to confirm what you need.
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Nice crank. I am pretty sure that is a 7mm allen for the extractors right?
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The early C-Record cranks had self-extracting crank bolts with a 7 mm allen key head. Too small of a size to sufficiently torque the crank onto the spindle, I've seen a few of these self-loosten and fall-off mid race. 7mm is a non-standard size of allen key so finding a replacement is not easy as going ot local hardware store. At some point, Record cranks switched to using an 8 mm bolt, accepted more torque and easier wrench to find.
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When I needed a 7mm allen key for my C-Record crank I phoned every bike shop in my area and no one had it. The Shop I most often use has a Tool And Dye shop just down the road about a block. They sold me one for .75 cents, I used an old seat post to crank it on and it has been secure.
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The early C-Record cranks had self-extracting crank bolts with a 7 mm allen key head. Too small of a size to sufficiently torque the crank onto the spindle, I've seen a few of these self-loosten and fall-off mid race. 7mm is a non-standard size of allen key so finding a replacement is not easy as going ot local hardware store. At some point, Record cranks switched to using an 8 mm bolt, accepted more torque and easier wrench to find.
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Went to 6 stores today to seek out a 14mm Allen key for a Campy Power Torque crankset... along my route, 2 LBS didn't have it, phoned a third, out of luck, phoned a fourth, out of luck, Sears had a set that included the tool but way too expensive, Home Depot, strike out, Napa auto, strike out, and another LBS was closed today. I should have just brought the bike to the first stop, the mechanic there is an ace but I'm stubborn as the rest of the codgers here in C&V and like to do my own wrenching... but it ain't cheap. Or easy.
Went to 6 stores today to seek out a 14mm Allen key for a Campy Power Torque crankset... along my route, 2 LBS didn't have it, phoned a third, out of luck, phoned a fourth, out of luck, Sears had a set that included the tool but way too expensive, Home Depot, strike out, Napa auto, strike out, and another LBS was closed today. I should have just brought the bike to the first stop, the mechanic there is an ace but I'm stubborn as the rest of the codgers here in C&V and like to do my own wrenching... but it ain't cheap. Or easy.
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Strickie- nice looking crankset, looking forward to photos of your completed build.
Road Fan- Thanks for the suggestion. I phoned a few more local bike shops and everyone said they can order one, and Sears online has an assortment of them. The last bike shop I spoke with said they use a 14mm axle nut and bolt. I asked if they could get enough torque to properly tighten the crank bolt that way and the mechanic said no prob, so I scrounged up a good fitting nut from a jar in the garage and cross-threaded bolt onto it so now I have a tool to use and the price was right.
Road Fan- Thanks for the suggestion. I phoned a few more local bike shops and everyone said they can order one, and Sears online has an assortment of them. The last bike shop I spoke with said they use a 14mm axle nut and bolt. I asked if they could get enough torque to properly tighten the crank bolt that way and the mechanic said no prob, so I scrounged up a good fitting nut from a jar in the garage and cross-threaded bolt onto it so now I have a tool to use and the price was right.
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