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devinfan 06-17-13 04:23 PM

I think Alan's fall into this category. Can't beat the ride, but they often go for cheap because they're not "lugged steel", and they are relatively common.

http://www.sterba-bike.cz/media/prod...rame%20(1).jpg

b dub 06-17-13 04:25 PM

What about the first Aluminum Trek? The 2000 generally does not get a lot of love but I think it's a great ride. Heck I rode it to and from work today! I like the understated look compared to the C'dales with oversized tubing.

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/...0/e6565e2a.jpg

Elev12k 06-17-13 04:33 PM

My Jan de Reus offers an excellent ride, but I won't call it underrated, as it is a small brand and only a handfull are around. Just enough for the select group of connaisseurs ;)

The Batavus Professional is made in more substantional numbers. Great riding, well made, good palmares (gold, worlds), more rare than the Champion Mondial, but still many around. I can recommend everyone to look out for one.

For example a Legrand built Presto is not underrated in Holland, but if I would offer one through ebay.com, it could probably go for less than a Colnago. Handcrafted Jan Legrand original vs off the shelf bike... :rolleyes:

squirtdad 06-17-13 05:52 PM

I think torpado's would fit, I have been totally surprized and happy at how much fun my Super Strada is to ride, even in citibike format. And this is with a non super highend tubing set (columbus allelle, double butted) they are not one of the big names and were only imported for a few years, but if you find one, worth your while

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/IMAG0484.jpg

I agree with the OP on the miyata 1400 ...especially as I have one I got new.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/IMAG0113.jpg

curbtender 06-17-13 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 15749457)
+1 to the late 80's Schwinn race offerings. They are remarkable for their ride qualites, components and paint choices.

Had a super sport that my son totally wore out. It was an impressive rider, all 600.

elboGreaze 06-17-13 07:17 PM

One that comes to mind is a Shogun 600 ,with Tange 900 that I completely re-worked (as we all do) , sold to a young man from Ann Arbor and it was stolen within a month. That bike had a nice feel to it , just a great bike. Here is a pic, if I can remember how to post photos.http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/zzq28g/sg1.jpg

auchencrow 06-18-13 07:20 AM

I think we've already mentioned the U08 a couple of times...
The next most popular bike from the high-ten realm during the bike boom was likely Raleigh's Grand Prix.
There was a reason why they were so popular - and they remain one of the best values in C&V today.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ndPrix006a.jpg

GasPowered 06-18-13 10:12 AM

Basso
 
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Originally Posted by Giacomo 1 (Post 15750118)
For a great under rated Italian, I have to mention the Basso Gap.

I agree, Basso seems to be underrated. I get the impression many feel it's the "Yugo" of Italian bikes.... I wonder if they've ever ridden one. Fantastic bike.


Cheers


http://i.imgur.com/S93CfNh.jpg

Standalone 06-18-13 10:33 AM

I have an '85 Taiwanese made Raleigh tourer. I'd like to ride a few other Raleighs of that era-- I bet they are similarly excellent riding bikes.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...h_DSC08001.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...g/DSC08031.jpg

Giacomo 1 06-18-13 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GasPowered (Post 15755630)
I agree, Basso seems to be underrated. I get the impression many feel it's the "Yugo" of Italian bikes.... I wonder if they've ever ridden one. Fantastic bike.


Cheers


http://i.imgur.com/S93CfNh.jpg

Nice Basso my friend.

I really hope people don't think they are the "Yugo" of Italian bikes!:eek:

But I get your drift, they're underrated. And that's kind of funny, because every ride report I've ever seen about a vintage Basso has not only been good, but really over-the-top fantastic. Riders seem to have a real affection for the ride they get from one. They can also be had for decent prices when compared to the other Italian brands...

Fred Smedley 06-19-13 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by squirtdad (Post 15753358)

I agree with the OP on the miyata 1400 ...especially as I have one I got new.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/IMAG0113.jpg

Nice specimen! Mine is in parts right now. It was my wife's bike built up with upright bars. The steering quickness -weight distribution did not like that application so I get it back :) I was totally impressed with the liveliness-compliance of this frameset, with only being a 1989 model this is a rare and mostly unknown model. I saw mine on Ebay, researched it and got it for a song.

Fred Smedley 06-19-13 07:02 AM

Here is my other "underrated" a 73 Raleigh Grand Sport. It was a $20.00 online auction score that I bid on not knowing what it was. It appears to have have been repainted. After a OA treatment, touch up and clear overspray I intend on spreading the stays for a eight speed 12-21 and a early XT triple, SunTour Barcons running a light Mavic 501- Campy tubular wheelset. If the steering is slow enough it might get a upright bar for my wife.
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps55432a9c.jpg
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps527ac259.jpg

sloar 06-19-13 07:05 AM

seems like ciocc doesnt get much love. i sold this one, but it was one of the smoothest bikes ive owned. also a blast to ride, very quick and nimble. another bike gone that i still regret selling. oh well.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...psbcd65fea.jpg

fiataccompli 06-19-13 08:46 AM

I would add Bertoni to the list. I have an SL, a Matrix & a MAX...all great imho. Perhaps Grandis is another lesser known (in the US at least) brand.

badger_biker 06-19-13 11:09 AM

These have already been mentioned but need some reinforcement IMHO. Ross Signature series and mid '80's to early 90's Cannondales are two that came to mind for me. My Ross 292S is as snappy as anything I've ridden.

There has been some mixed feelings on the C'dales in this thread and it may well depend on the year and model. I have two ST400's. I haven't yet bonded with the 1986 for some unknown reason but the 1990 with the super fat tubes is my go to bike. With 1 1/4 Pasela's it rides like a dream yet is still quite light and responsive for a touring bike.

Also agree on the late 80's Columbus Schwinns.

Giacomo 1 06-19-13 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Smedley (Post 15758602)
Nice specimen! Mine is in parts right now. It was my wife's bike built up with upright bars. The steering quickness -weight distribution did not like that application so I get it back :) I was totally impressed with the liveliness-compliance of this frameset, with only being a 1989 model this is a rare and mostly unknown model. I saw mine on Ebay, researched it and got it for a song.

Hey, I want to see that 1400 when it's finished.

There isn't enough appreciation for this fine bike, even among Miyata enthusiasts. Although mine is the aluminum 1400A model, I agree with your ride report. Very lively and agile. Glad to see you were able to wrest it back from your wife and bring it back to it's original specs. I can't say I got mine for a song unfortunately, but I'm very happy with her!

squirtdad 06-19-13 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Smedley (Post 15758602)
Nice specimen! Mine is in parts right now. It was my wife's bike built up with upright bars. The steering quickness -weight distribution did not like that application so I get it back :) I was totally impressed with the liveliness-compliance of this frameset, with only being a 1989 model this is a rare and mostly unknown model. I saw mine on Ebay, researched it and got it for a song.

thanks, I have upgraded a bit. started out as ultegra 600 double with biopace. Now it is ultegra 9 speed, triple with sti and ultegra dual pivot brakes. put a nitto noodle bar on (and a nitto stem as I couldn't fit the nitto bar in the original stem and just added a brooks swift (the turbo went to my torpado) I have always enjoyed the ride and if I had to have just one bike this would be it.

Fred Smedley 02-14-14 10:36 AM

I thought I would ad Kestrel 200SC to this list as well as bring this thread back to life to go along with the Underrated Parts thread. These ride excellent , do not have the dead feel some complain of with Vintage carbon and were built heavy enough to be high mileage frames. They are magic carpet with a nice set of sew ups on chip seal.

Tim_Iowa 02-14-14 01:51 PM

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Bikes where buyers benefit from little known brands:
F Moser
Giordana

Absolutely agree on Giordana. I picked up a 90s XL-Eco with a nearly full Sachs New Success Ergo gruppo for $400 last year. Very light, very sweet ride.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364378

I also agree on top-end 80s Schwinns. I found a Project KOM-10, their '88 racing MTB (full lugged Tange Prestige, XT-M730 group) for $70, and it's an excellent bike. I want to make it into a monster tourer, but I need to get some rack and fender mounts brazed on.

Chombi 02-14-14 02:57 PM

Medici bikes..... Not under the radar per se, but certainly way underrated though, and never ever seeming to get out from under the cloud of the whole USA/Carlsbad Masi "controversies" and those famous "hair related crimes" by one of its founders later on......
Too bad, cause if you examione a Medici frameset really closely, you will see that they certainly can give the best C&V steel frames in the world a run for their money when it comes to high quality craftsmanship.....

turky lurkey 02-14-14 02:57 PM

+1 for the 80's Schwinn's
Here's one I wish I had room for, this thing has been listed for months, it needs an overhaul but could be a great bike. I had an '87 Le tour in white, it was awesome. I sold it for $165.00 all tuned up. One side note about the Schwinn's: I've noticed that they weigh in at or under the claimed weight in the catalogs, even the larger size ones. I'd love to pick up a Tempo, Super Sport, or Circuit from the era at a needing repair price.

1986 Schwinn Le Tour - $100 (Down town)

http://images.craigslist.org/00e0e_5...km_600x450.jpg
http://images.craigslist.org/00e0e_5...akm_50x50c.jpghttp://images.craigslist.org/00d0d_9...TMG_50x50c.jpghttp://images.craigslist.org/00Y0Y_2...kzI_50x50c.jpg

For Sale or trade:
1986 Schwinn Le Tour
In all original condition and ready to ride!
$100.00 cash obo
719-237-4631
http://cosprings.craigslist.org/bik/4295287191.html

Oldpeddaller 02-14-14 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 15750412)
One of my favourite bicycles of all time and one that I was searching for when I found it in a friend's shop... when new the 1987 Cascade was over $800.00 Cdn and as it was the top of the line ATB and hand built I believe the production numbers are fairly low. I have seen more of the Shasta (also hand built) which was the model down and was originally fitted with Exage components whereas the Cascade was equipped with Shimano Deore drive components and top of the line Sansin hub laced to Araya RM25 rims.

The Shasta was a $700.00 bicycle in 1988... a friend of mine bought his new and still has it and this was the bike that started me searching.

It is still wearing it's original Deore cold forged crank and has new chain rings, I wore out the stock wheels many years ago and they have been replaced with custom wheels (Arvon hubs laced to CR18 rims)... it is a fabulous all rounder with the set up being specialized for touring.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...13cascade2.JPG

Looks like a really competent tourer, Sixty-fiver! Any chance of a close-up photo of how the front racks & mudguard (fender) stays are mounted? I can see that the low-rider mounts and fender stays seem to share the same fork end eye, maybe with a longer bolt? Is the leg of the front bag support rack mounted on the same eye, or an extra one on the front of the drop-out? What does the 'hoop' over the wheel in front of the bag support rack do? Are all these parts alloy or steel? (I'm currently planning a similar project for heavier loaded back road touring/camping - you seem to have it all sorted on this bike).

Chombi 02-14-14 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by devinfan (Post 15753091)
I think Alan's fall into this category. Can't beat the ride, but they often go for cheap because they're not "lugged steel", and they are relatively common.

http://www.sterba-bike.cz/media/prod...rame%20(1).jpg

+1.........They certainly are not perfect (fragile in some areas like the head lugs and cable guides and stops on older aluminum models), but the fantastic ride and handling of my Alan Carbonio really blows away all the steel and CF bikes I've owned and ridden..... It's like a "thoroughbred" just itching to be raced!

auchencrow 02-14-14 03:39 PM

Shogun 300 (c. 1984, I think)

- Really nice and I don't think it's on too many people's radar. - Tange DB CrMo tubing, Alloy hoops, Sugino CS. With DT or Barcon shifters you probably would never suspect this was the entry level in the series.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h.../Clear003a.jpg

jimmuller 02-14-14 06:32 PM

Lotsa' nice bikes here. Not sure I'd call some of the sleepers though!

Here's one of my favorites, a bike I rarely see mentioned. If I could keep just one bike it might just be this one.
'87 Bianchi Brava with non-OEM equipment: 1st gen Cyclone derailleurs and Tektro DP brakes, Mavic 501 sealed-bearing hubs, and now with VeloOrange crank.

http://world.std.com/~muller/pics/Bianchi_ConcordR.jpg


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