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    Best realistic vintage touring bike? 80s, 90s Raleighs...

    I've been researching vintage touring bikes and the forums have been a huge help. I'm planning in advance of next summer season to buy a good vintage touring bike. By good, I mean really good--but for practical purposes those "great" ones (unless you know undervalued ones) are out of $ range. (Ie, Things like the randdoneur).

    Here are my parameters.
    1. For a variety of reasons, like Raleigh's
    2. I want one to use really for touring, yet keep original.

    I've scoured old posts, vintage catalogues, etc... And looking for help so that if/when that right bike appears, I can pounce.

    So far, I know some of the 90-92 Raleigh's get a bad rap, but a few models in there seem to spec out nicely, (touriste?) have some style, but also a little more contemporary perks w gearing, etc... to leave original.

    Anyone out there have favorites, suggestions for me to check out? As I said, inclined to raleigh, but other recs would be good too. I'd guess I'm game to spend anywhere from 200-700 dollars, give or take some if there's a real gem, but of course prefer not to blow full budget.

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    mnmkpedals, Miyata, Trek, Cannondale.

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    Vintage touring bikes are not easy to find and they tend to command a good price. I would not get fixated on a brand in looking for one but instead focus on finding a quality bike in my size.

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    I had a Raleigh Alyeska once, it was a fantastic bike. There is one for sale locally on Craigslist, the first one I've ssen in quite a while. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/3978534693.html
    Personally, my favorites of the bikes I've had were a late 80s Cannondale (I still see them from time to time but you may need to upgrade the components), and the eternal Trek 520. I also had a mid-80s Takara touring bike that I really liked, but I've never seen another one in the wild. And the Miyatas are another vintage favorite, like this one: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/3990728303.html

    It's been raining touring bikes all of a sudden around here lately, but I can't have them all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobilemail View Post
    I had a Raleigh Alyeska once, it was a fantastic bike. There is one for sale locally on Craigslist, the first one I've ssen in quite a while. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/3978534693.html
    Personally, my favorites of the bikes I've had were a late 80s Cannondale (I still see them from time to time but you may need to upgrade the components), and the eternal Trek 520. I also had a mid-80s Takara touring bike that I really liked, but I've never seen another one in the wild. And the Miyatas are another vintage favorite, like this one: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/3990728303.html

    It's been raining touring bikes all of a sudden around here lately, but I can't have them all...
    Good- I'll start watching Craigslist Postings there, then. Not raining touring bikes here.
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    You might want to itemize and prioritize the features you'd "need" on a touring bike. An initial list: eyelets for mounting racks and maybe fenders, non-short chainstays, clearance for non-skinny tires, good brakes. Many mid-priced bikes fit those criteria, especially 70's to early 80's at least. I'd even consider touring on my UO8 if that was the only bike I had. Most other things you'd need such as low gearing or bottle cages can be added or changed easily enough.
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    Nishiki put out some good proper touring bikes too.
    http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/bik/3981762756.html

    Wish this wasn't so big.
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    I have seen quite a few Raleigh Touring 14's lately. Great economy touring bike from the early-mid 80's.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rale...p2047675.l2557
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    I don't tour, but I like my Lotus Eclair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
    You might want to itemize and prioritize the features you'd "need" on a touring bike. An initial list: eyelets for mounting racks and maybe fenders, non-short chainstays, clearance for non-skinny tires, good brakes. Many mid-priced bikes fit those criteria, especially 70's to early 80's at least. I'd even consider touring on my UO8 if that was the only bike I had. Most other things you'd need such as low gearing or bottle cages can be added or changed easily enough.
    My first tour was on a UO-8. I also did a tour on a basic high tensile Motobecane. Both had nice slack angles, a 42 inch wheelbase, and nice long chainstays. They make great touring bikes if you can get over having oddball threads and oddball sizing for the stem/seatpost, etc. I'd tour on one if I could find one.

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    This has been lurking on ebay for $900, not a steal but it loaded and ready to tour

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    1984 Trek 520 or 1985 Trek 620.
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    Vintage rigid mountain bike work well for touring, 26" wheels and braze ons etc.

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    All good stuff. Thanks. Yeah. I saw that Portage on ebay, and if it were local, would definitely give it a spin-- just never had one near by to see how I liked. I did cruise on a touring 14 for a bit, didn't love it. And have done the 520 which is on the list for me to keep an eye out for.

    from looks alone, I dig this one Peugeot:

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/3993378395.html

    But it's kind of what sent me here to post...just don't have time or knowledge to research out all brands, frames to see if good bona fide tourer potential. And I don't want to chase down every bike people slapped a rack on and called a tourer! so the suggestions help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuwol7 View Post
    Vintage rigid mountain bike work well for touring, 26" wheels and braze ons etc.
    +1 And old MTBs don't tend to hold their value well in the marketplace, so you can get a really good bike with quality frame often for under $150. Pre-90 steel Treks are good to keep an eye out for. (I happen to have an '84 Trek 830 with a lugged Reynolds 501 frame )
    That $900 Raleigh is waaayyy high IMHO. That's enough to get into a brand new touring bike if you're patient for a deal - I saw one in a bike shop the other day.

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    I'd buy that Raleigh at $900 over just about any modern tourer at $900
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trick fall View Post
    I don't tour, but I like my Lotus Eclair.
    there's one on Chicago CL. Nice looking bike, even single speeded out.
    http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/3989312946.html

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    You mention 80's & 90's. Are you partial to index shifting? This could affect your options.

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    RE: the Lotus in Chicago (damn, can't seem to figure out how to reference that post in an edit)


    I've had my eye on that one, too. I'm pretty sure it was up a few months ago from someone in the suburbs, priced at $250 IIRC.

    Beautiful bike. I'd consider getting it if I didn't already have a perfectly serviceable singlespeed, and my GF allowed a 4th bike in our small apartment.

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    I made a list, with links to photos I found. Formatting didn't copy over too cleanly, but you'll get the idea. This was 8 months ago, so I apologise if any links are broken.

    Bridgestone CB-0 1990 http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...3&d=1327866153
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    Wow, fantastic and seems crazy thorough. Thank you!! I've got some reading to do. Will report back with how the search goes. Right now outfitting a 91 technium hybrid to function as tourer in a pinch, but excited to score a tourer. Will be a fun search.
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    For a full-on touring bike, I'd be looking at modifying an old mountain bike.

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    I love my 1982 Trek 613. Haven't toured any on it though to give experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobilemail View Post
    That $900 Raleigh is waaayyy high IMHO. That's enough to get into a brand new touring bike if you're patient for a deal - I saw one in a bike shop the other day.
    There were 2 Surley LHT's in my local REI yesterday clearanced in the mid 9's
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    Nishiki's line of Internationals was marketed as a touring bike. They got better and better throughout the 70's
    and into the 80's, just about like all of the Japanese makers. They usually fly under the radar, because the tubing
    is straight gauge, and depending on the year, youi might have to attach your racks with p-clips rather than
    braze on fittings which are not provided on all the different model years.

    There are a lot of them around, they usually have top notch components, the tubing diameters and threading
    are all standard, and they can often be had quite cheaply. But the advice above to not get locked in to any
    one brand or model is good advice. Look for your size, in any of the many offerings from the various makers.

    I'm partial to the early to mid 80's, in terms of quality, simplicity, and repairability.

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