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Old 09-21-13, 12:50 PM   #26
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I lend only the ones I could bear to see broken or stolen, if worse came to worse. Come to think of it, that's most of my collection, tattered and patinaed as they are.

I've given away a lot bikes that have come to me for free.

I'll lend my wife's bike to anybody
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OK, let's take it up a notch. Have you ever given a bike away?

I have given a number away to friends, sons, sons' friends, sons' girlfriends, etc. So I'm out a few hundred. More than worth the pleasure of giving to people I'm close to and watching them become dedicated cyclists.
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Nope, never, never will either. My father always told me, "The man that lends out his vehicle will lend out his wife."
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Nope, never, never will either. My father always told me, "The man that lends out his vehicle will lend out his wife."
Some people are into that.........
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Ewwwwwwwww!
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I'm okay with letting friends and guests borrow a bike to go out & ride with me, but I'd feel uncomfortable with a long-term loan. None of my close friends or relatives do much cycling though. If lending out a bike, I think a lot depends on the whether or not you can trust the other person to care for and maintain your bike properly. My UE-8 is perhaps an exception, but I'd want to change the wheels since it's currently sporting Dugast tubulars.

The last time I let someone use one of my bikes it was my twin brother and my recently-restored and irreplaceable Park Pre (my teenage team race bike). It had a worn & cracked jockey wheel, and the DA 7400 rear derailleur got hung up, twisted into the rear wheel and snapped in half. Broke a couple spokes and we had to limp home with me pushing while he coasted, chain slapping against the stay along the way. I was very fortunate the derailleur took the brunt of the force and snapped before the hanger bent. The hanger did get very slightly out of whack and I had to have the LBS align it again. I've never got over thinking that it may not have happened had I been riding. Did he try to force through the pedal stroke when the chain started giving resistance? Would I have detected something wrong and averted the damage? I'll never know.

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OK, let's take it up a notch. Have you ever given a bike away?

I have given a number away to friends, sons, sons' friends, sons' girlfriends, etc. So I'm out a few hundred. More than worth the pleasure of giving to people I'm close to and watching them become dedicated cyclists.
Quite a few, and totally worth it. I like picking out people with actual needs and gifting them one I've fixed up.
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OK, let's take it up a notch. Have you ever given a bike away?

I have given a number away to friends, sons, sons' friends, sons' girlfriends, etc. So I'm out a few hundred. More than worth the pleasure of giving to people I'm close to and watching them become dedicated cyclists.
I gave away three just last month. I also gave a Raleigh GP to a graduating HS Senior too in the winter. Next week I will give away this lovely refurbished Fuji Supreme to a friend who has been very generous to me.

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Quite a few, and totally worth it.
Me too but it's not as easy as it looks. Most recently gave one to a forum member.
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Me too but it's not as easy as it looks. Most recently gave one to a forum member.
Now, you know, giving a bike to a forum member is against the rules. Instead we have to follow the protocols.

Seller demands 20% more than the highest possible price on ebay (I've actually had forum members price bikes at 200% over value).
Buyer whines and pleads poverty and offers to trade a used set of bibs. (I've had this happen too)
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Me too but it's not as easy as it looks. Most recently gave one to a forum member.
I remember, LoL I was contemplating a road trip to you myself!
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I loaned a 1/4" drive handle, a short extension & a couple of sockets to my next door neighbor when he and his buddy were working on his car. When he finished I asked for them back, and he looked me straight in the eye and said "I don't have them, my buddy took them."

I don't loan bikes, because I only have the one I ride.

I loan stuff that I don't care if I will ever see again. I usually say "you can keep it"

If I'm loaning something to a good friend that I need, and want back, I bug the heck out of them to tell me as soon as they are done using it, then go get it.
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Now, you know, giving a bike to a forum member is against the rules. Instead we have to follow the protocols.

Seller demands 20% more than the highest possible price on ebay (I've actually had forum members price bikes at 200% over value).
Buyer whines and pleads poverty and offers to trade a used set of bibs. (I've had this happen too)
o.O Sounds like forum beggar not member....
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I have leant bikes for short periods, even offered to for members on this forum on vacation in Socal. I will only lend to someone with the means to fix or replace it if necessary and they must agree to to return the bike in the condition they got it or recompense me for any damage, to my satisfaction.
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Old 09-21-13, 07:12 PM   #40
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I lent a Moto to Mkeller while he was in Maine a few years back. I'd do the same for any regular BF member.

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More or less gave a purple trek 500 to a very good friend, since he was riding a frame about 5 cm too small. Last I heard it was passed in to his nephew, who took it to college. Not expected to see it again. Not a big deal.

On the plus side, I was helping the same guy move a few years back, and he pulled the vintage Hagstrom guitar that I had lent him out of a closet. He said, "my wife wants to throw this out-do you want it back?"
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Old 09-21-13, 08:04 PM   #42
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Yeah when I had both a Univega and an Italvega I would loan the latter out to a couple of riding partners until one of them took it to the convenience store and got it stolen while he was at the counter. He actually saw the kid riding off on it but couldn't catch him in time. Well a couple of months later he caught the kid on it and got it back. Didn't even slap the kid around or anything.

After that I only loaned it to people while I was riding with them and took it right back when we were done. Now I have one bike and when I build another I doubt if I'd loan my present ride out.....But who knows? I might for the afternoon while I'm riding with them if I wanted to introduce some newbie I liked into cycling.
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Old 09-21-13, 08:27 PM   #43
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I lent my entire toolset to an international student colleague of mine while in graduate school. I offered to help him work on his awful condition hand-me-down Walmart bicycle, but he was more interested in working at his own pace in his apartment. In particular, the bottom bracket was loose and I explained how the crank puller and other tools worked.

A few days later he asked questions about the prices and availability of some of the tools. He had tried his damnedest to remove the crank without having removed the nuts from the bottom bracket spindle. On a steel crank.

He insisted on purchasing me a new one, and I let him do it, even though it was a substantial amount of money for him. A short time later, now he drives a hot Italian sports car and teaches physics to young adults in a former Soviet country.

Now I'm going to have a really hard time lending my stuff to other people who I don't really know that well. I will offer to help, though.
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I had a really nice Cannondale with Athena 8 speed. Everything was in excellent condition and looking kind of spiffy. I let a friend borrow it. He was going to fast on the greenway, overcooked a turn, saw people coming towards him and panicked. The way he tells it, he went over the handle bars, the bike went down on the drive side and slid. The derailleur was hosed, peddle broke and bar tape on the drive side was shredded. He bought that bike.

I will still lend my bike(s) but not to just anyone.

Right after that happened I was hit on my other bike and the frame was destroyed. A bunch of other stuff happened and I was without a bike for a while. I have had friends lend me bikes for weeks/months while I was without my own, but in each case I took better care of the bike than they did and on two out of the four instances, I replaced the bar tape, tires, and cables because they were worn out.

I have given bikes away on multiple occasions. If I have more than I need and someone is serious about riding I will gladly give a bike away.
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I've had bad luck loaning out things. Last two times I loaned out tools, they came back abused or broken. I no longer loan tools.
Bike? Only to someone I would trust implicitly.
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Tools? No. I've a hard time not losing or disorganizing my kit myself, no need to bring more complication to the party. Every time someone I know wants to borrow bike tools I just work around my own hesistation to flat out refuse them and my unwillingness to loan the tools by inviting them over for drinks while wrenching. A win-win situation in my book.
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OK, let's take it up a notch. Have you ever given a bike away?

I have given a number away to friends, sons, sons' friends, sons' girlfriends, etc. So I'm out a few hundred. More than worth the pleasure of giving to people I'm close to and watching them become dedicated cyclists.
I have done it many times, for the pure joy of giving to someone that needs and appreciates it.

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I do.

There are several factors at play, if you think about it, which I don't, and I doubt others seriously ponder them, either.

1-The borrower either knows me directly or through someone who does, and has considered the consequences of a mishap. (small town)
2-The borrower accepts those risks.
3-It's more fun than not doing it.
4-The potential benefit is very desireable: more riders, on whatever they decide to ride.

All that in a split second, so I say yes.




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Yes. I have plenty to ride.
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Only to my Son, as he will/does care for them in the same manner as I do. Problem is, he rides a frame 1 size smaller than me.
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