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    Miyata Models - 710 versus 914

    Trying to make a decision...between owning two Miyata models...the 710 versus the 914. Before we start with "give us pictures"...I think everyone is quite aware of these two models...and they are both in very good shape. They both fit me...I just do not feel the need to have two of Miyata's performance oriented models.

    The 710 is a 1987 and the 914 is about a 1992. Some specs:

    914 has a full Shimano 105 group

    710 has a Suntour Cyclone MK II derailleurs; Dia Compe 500 brakes; Araya 700C Rims with Suntour Hubs

    I am leaning toward keeping the 914...but would like any validation...

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    I agree that keeping the 914 makes sense.

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    Depends, is the 914 my size?
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    710 is older. By 1987, it was a 712 with 105 components. Sounds like a 1986, not that it matters anyway. 914 wins by a mile.

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    Thanks for feedback...
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    Looking closely at my 1983 Miyata catalog and comparing to my 1979 912, it looks like the 710 is the same geometry as the 912, but lacks some of the extra features (some braze-ons and newer cable routing, smaller and prettier lugs). So the frame design of the more expensive model was "handed down" to its less expensive brother. Not sure if that relationship continued for the frames.

    But the 914 always had distinctly better components. I'd pick the 914 if it was me, but color and condition could be big factors in a decision, too.

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    The 914 likely has Miyata's cool Spline Triple Butted cromo throughout too. Nobrainer. ( And I have a 712 and love Suntour. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by daf1009 View Post
    Trying to make a decision...between owning two Miyata models...the 710 versus the 914. Before we start with "give us pictures"...I think everyone is quite aware of these two models...and they are both in very good shape. They both fit me...I just do not feel the need to have two of Miyata's performance oriented models.

    The 710 is a 1987 and the 914 is about a 1992. Some specs:

    914 has a full Shimano 105 group

    710 has a Suntour Cyclone MK II derailleurs; Dia Compe 500 brakes; Araya 700C Rims with Suntour Hubs

    I am leaning toward keeping the 914...but would like any validation...

    Thanks.
    I would highly recommend having both of them! One Miyata is never enough. Trust me, I know, I only have one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Enns View Post
    I would highly recommend having both of them! One Miyata is never enough. Trust me, I know, I only have one!
    No. 1. I have only one and I'd like a 2d one as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Enns View Post
    I would highly recommend having both of them! One Miyata is never enough. Trust me, I know, I only have one!
    I also have a Miyata 1000 to go with the 914...and picked up a nice little 1987 Schwinn Tempo this evening...have to move on one of the Miyata's...so the 710 will be "taken care of"...

    Again...thanks for the advice...
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    Yeah, I got the Miyata fever for a while too. I've got a 414, cf 3000 and a LT 1000. I love them all and have no desire to sell any of them.
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    I own 2 Miyata's, a 88 712 and a 87 Team. I will say this, the newer 914 Miyata had stopped using their best triple butted splined tubeset like they did in the mid 80's and went with just a regular double butted non splined tubeset because by 92 steel was falling out of favor and thus there was no need for a high end steel frame. However the 87 bike has a better frame in that it is triple butted but it wasn't splined tubing.

    The bike with the Suntour Cyclone is the best bike for components, those Cyclone components were bullet proof and wore like iron, my Superbe components have over 160,000 miles on them and still going strong. But the other bike with the 105 has the better frame. Ideally one should, or could, swap the Cyclone components over to the better frame.

    A controversial thought, I know, but it is a thought.

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    IF...you can only have one...make it the 914......but.....


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    Is the 914 from 1992 still made in Japan? I think that the Japanese bikes in 1986 and 1987 were some of the best production bikes that have ever been available. The US dollar was super strong compared to the Japanese Yen and production had not yet shifted to Taiwan. If the 914 was still made in Japan, it's no doubt a terrific bike. If it wasn't, I'd buy the 710.

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    I think both were made in Japan, but the 710 was using a better grade of frame material and lighter then the 914 despite the fact that normally the higher the number the better the frame, but Miyata changed that when steel was falling out of favor and gave the 914 that number to make people think it was a higher end bike, component wise that was true, but not frame wise. Which is why I said take the Cyclone group off the 914 and put it on the 710. The Cyclone group alone is worth more than the 914 frame and fork.

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