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Old 10-03-13, 01:40 PM   #26
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Bikes hung on walls are like birds in fish tanks...just ain't normal

Seen the puffins or penguins at the zoo lately? See where they hang out?
My daughter used to have pet buttonquail. They lived in an aquarium and seemed content...
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Root, you have a couple of bikes I'll hang on my wall for you! They'll be nice and safe!

That said, I have quite of few that I ride and quite a few that I hang.


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I hang them all, home & work. Keeps 'em out of the way. Except for the tandem. I haven't figured out how to store it yet. It gets ridden nearly every day so it leans against the wall in the hall by the front door.
That tandem is an example of a bike that could go both ways. It is a Bob Jackson from 1980 that was almost unridden when I got it a few years ago. I bought it because it was so pretty, without giving any thought to how it might get used. My practical wife had a different idea about its purpose, so now we take it out every morning before I go to work. It has some of the nicest lugwork of any bike I own, and a solid original finish. It is beautiful enough to keep for looks alone, but it is also a fine rider that fits us both and gives us a lot of pleasure. Win-win.
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I have guitars worth 20x the value of my bikes that I still take out and play. Functional objects are fine as art, but part of their beauty lies in their functionality. Once stripped of their functionality, they lose part of their appeal. If I own something that works, I'm going to use it, no matter the value.
Indeed, the one bass guitar I own I gave to my old friend who has made more use of it recently than I have. It's a beat to hell Rick 4000, but everyone that plays it loves it and wants to buy it off of him (sorry Dan and Vince NFS!). The damn thing help get a grammy even... hey I want my statue!
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Seen the puffins or penguins at the zoo lately? See where they hang out?
My daughter used to have pet buttonquail. They lived in an aquarium and seemed content...
Puffins...Penguins.....it just ain't normal is all. Kinda like this here fella



Button Quail content in a glass box? Sure....his other options are to be shot or eaten by a fox!
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i just think others are wrong.
No, you're wrong!

As Pablo Neruda says, "because only moving does it have a soul." (From Ode to Bicycles)
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Puffins...Penguins.....it just ain't normal is all. Kinda like this here fella



Button Quail content in a glass box? Sure....his other options are to be shot or eaten by a fox!
In addition to having an electric bill (not the Con Ed kind!), venomous spurs and a consort who lays eggs, the male platypus is the only monotreme who can track stand. The portrait you posted is of my uncle Wally.
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i would rather ride a platypus than hang it on the wall.

taxidermy doesn't interest me. i'm no norman bates.
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That might not be normal. But it's damned interesting. Houdini birds.
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If I have a bike that I don't ride, eventually I send it along its way; But that's a personal proclivity not a moral imperative.
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If I'm honest, when I get a pang from seeing someone's classic race bike wall hanger, it's a reflection of the fact that I would like to ride it, not really any philosophical ideal that it must be ridden.
Due Route describes my state of mind very well.
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We have two boys off to college very soon.

There will be no such thing as a wall hanger by next year at this time.
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Some good input. Penguins and all. About the best answer as to why, 20Grit's sez a lot. Functionality is lost if it's not used. Though I own quite a few utilitarian objects that I don't use. I would think a valuable vintage guitar might be harder to damage than a valuable bike, unless you happen to drop it on the concrete floor. Or smash your Marshall stacks with it.

I can identify Aixaix's contention that they're "...beautiful and evocative, which is good enough for me."
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Old 10-03-13, 04:25 PM   #37
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I have plenty of nice bikes so I don't really need to ride all of them as a rule. I really should ride the antiques though.
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You can hang a bike upon a wall and call it art



But you can't ride the art and call it a bike
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I prefer to ride my bikes. What others do, whether riding, hanging them up, collecting, restoring, flipping etc.hopefully, makes them happy. I like the sense of adventure that comes from even a small/short ride. You don't know what you will see, who you will meet or what might happen. Great stories and experiences can spring from the smallest rides. Nothing is guaranteed. The one thing that is guaranteed is that there is very little chance of adventure, while hanging on a wall or in a garage.

I have had a fair number of bikes pass through my hands and what I learned about myself is that I enjoy riding more than wrenching, riding more than collecting, riding more than flipping and riding more than having lots of stuff around that I don't use. It just becomes "stuff" to manage at that point. I manage "stuff" at work and that is more than enough. I need less work in my life and more riding.
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Ride your collection, so others can see and appreciate rolling art under your derriere!
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A bike is a bike.




Art is art.




A bike will never be art. But then there are bikes that should be viewed by everyone.
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From a periodical covering other two wheeled machines "Ride em - don't Hide em!"
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None of my bikes are rare or could be considered show pieces, that being said, 3 of our 5 (soon to be 4 on the wall) bikes hang on the wall when not in use. Its a great storage option that opens up a lot of floor space.
Its the "Bike Snob" attitude that finds a problem with it, and I despise the "Bike Snob" attitude. Beyond the pleasure of riding a bike for enjoyment/fitness its just a matter of "Men playing with Bicycles" and I enjoy playing with and looking at bicycles.

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The way I see it, functionality is not lost by hanging a bike on a wall. It can still be brought down and ridden. But that's not the point. The point is that the owner may enjoy seeing his wall art as a piece of functional art, never riding it but knowing that he can ride it whenever he wants.

Why would anyone care, anyway? Bikes are not sacred. They're just objects, and humans like objects because they can evoke feelings (allusion to aixaix's comment on bikes being evocative as objects). Let people do what they want with their objects.
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Why would anyone care, anyway? Bikes are not sacred. They're just objects, and humans like objects because they can evoke feelings (allusion to aixaix's comment on bikes being evocative as objects). Let people do what they want with their objects.
Sure, whatever others do with their own money is none of my business. I just feel sorry for the bikes that are displayed and not ridden.
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Now we're getting some good depth here. I have to admit I'm somewhat ambivalent about this. Don't care much one way or the other but what struck me a while ago was why some were so adamant about it. I couldn't quite understand it. Still can't.

I do like Southpaw's idea of an intrinsically beautiful object that can be pulled down off its display place and used.
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I'm vowing to myself that this winter I'm finally going to make the rosewood wall bracket I've been thinking about.
That will get one bike up off the floor and at eye level where I can enjoy its beauty, but still be within easy reach.
The only open space on a wall in the whole house big enough for a bike. A rarity in this place.
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Depends on the bike.

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my old '93 porsche 968 was art. it was also a car.

all my keeper bikes are art. merely looking them conveys feeling.

they're also transportation machines.

if i had hooks on the wall, i would hang them in between rides.

and ... what's a bike snob? same as a music snob? (someone who looks down his nose at pop radio crap.) if so, i assume most of us on c&v are bike snobs. there must be a better term for it: someone with knowledge, experience and opinion.
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merely looking them conveys feeling.
Looking at a pile of dog crap conveys feeling. Doesn't make it art.
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