Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-03-13, 07:27 AM   #1
rootboy 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rootboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Wherever
Bikes:
Posts: 15,695
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
It's a BIKE, and it MUST be RIDDEN! Or ?......

I've found the small debate that comes up from time to time, usually interjected into other threads, that since it is a bicycle, it must be ridden.
Usually the proponents of this view eschew the idea of a bike being "hung on a wall". But I don't think I've ever heard anyone say why they believe this.

So, which camp do you fall into? It is a bike and therefore, it must be ridden? Or, it is OK to not ride a certain bike, for whatever reason.

Chime in with your thoughts but, please, no attacking those with the opposite viewpoint. I'd just like to hear your reasoning for your view, not why you think others are wrong.

I have my own views on this subject, but won't include them here just yet. I'm interested in what others think. Thanks.
rootboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 07:34 AM   #2
rhm
multimodal commuter
 
rhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
Posts: 15,723
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
There are bikes that are too obsolete to ride, but too nice to throw away. If there's a place where they can be hung on the wall and enjoyed that way, that's fine with me.

There are also bikes that are really not obsolete at all, but old and fragile and too nice to risk damage. Those, too, if there's a place where they can be hung on the wall and enjoyed that way, that's fine with me.
rhm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 07:48 AM   #3
thinktubes 
Fast+Bulbous
 
thinktubes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Across the street from Chicago
Bikes:
Posts: 3,364
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Don't know about wall-hangers, but many moons ago, I was really into vintage balloon tire bikes. I built up a nice custom with a spring fork, racks, horn tank, etc.... The problem was I was afraid to lock it up anywhere because stuff kept disappearing. This was in a college town so YMMV.

Eventually, I sold it and bought a beater which I didn't have to worry about. Ironically, someone stole the beater off of my porch.
thinktubes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 08:02 AM   #4
Popeyecahn
Pedo Grande
 
Popeyecahn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego
Bikes: Look 585, Serotta Legend Ti, Vitus 979
Posts: 849
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
No different than guitars. If you can afford to hang them on a wall, who am I to argue. I can't, so what ever is in my possession is to be used for which it was designed. I don't own any museum pieces nor do I intend to, I leave that to the wealthy.
Popeyecahn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 08:05 AM   #5
itskohler
Senior Member
 
itskohler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
Bikes: 1976 Motobecane Grand Touring, 1986 Nishiki Olympic 12, 198(?) De Rosa Professional
Posts: 152
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think some people look at the nicer bikes as works of art, I certainly do. Therefore they are displayed to be enjoyed visually. But I also agree with Popeye too.
itskohler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 08:13 AM   #6
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 5,379
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
I don't really care one way or the other what others do. If someone hangs a bike on the wall, it's going to outlast them, so someone else can always decide to ride it in the future.

If I'm honest, when I get a pang from seeing someone's classic race bike wall hanger, it's a reflection of the fact that I would like to ride it, not really any philosophical ideal that it must be ridden.

For me a bike would have to be pretty darn special not to ride it at all (the latest from Daveyates comes close, but I don't think I could resist at least a few miles on it). Really the only thing that would hold me back would be the risk of serious damage - either mechanical or economic. This is all academic, as I don't aspire to own bikes of that caliber, nor do I have the means.
due ruote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 08:21 AM   #7
Daveyates
Senior Member
 
Daveyates's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Paris France
Bikes:
Posts: 1,338
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think they should all be ridden especially the really old bikes as they feel unique to ride.
But if someone wants to hang a bike like a piece of art then that's cool as well.
As for my latest thread the only reason i'm not touching it is purely to not effect the value with my clumsy hands.
Daveyates is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 08:25 AM   #8
rumrunn6
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint
Posts: 14,198
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 128 Post(s)
I have some old classics and I try to take them for a spin every couple of years. I hate seeing them sitting there, dormant. but I have no problem riding my new (to me) bike cuz the newer better bike must be ridden!
rumrunn6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 08:30 AM   #9
zrossiter
A T G S
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lakewood, OH
Bikes:
Posts: 320
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have a friend that owns a shop and they have several bikes that are showpieces and not ridden, some of which have never been ridden.

I'd love to hang up a bike that demands that respect
zrossiter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 08:54 AM   #10
guzziee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas
Bikes:
Posts: 410
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
I think bikes are meant to be ridden, but I do have a "trophy" cinelli supercorsa(full super record) wall hanger I found at a flea market which was "free+nice profit" after selling the spray painted paramount that came with it. I just like to admire it from time to time.
guzziee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 09:08 AM   #11
Popeyecahn
Pedo Grande
 
Popeyecahn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego
Bikes: Look 585, Serotta Legend Ti, Vitus 979
Posts: 849
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by guzziee View Post
I think bikes are meant to be ridden, but I do have a "trophy" cinelli supercorsa(full super record) wall hanger I found at a flea market which was "free+nice profit" after selling the spray painted paramount that came with it. I just like to admire it from time to time.
Now I would have flipped that around and be riding that Paramount by selling the Cinelli to restore the Paramount, if of course the Paramount fit me to a reasonable degree... If neither fit, they'd be gone and I'd be riding whatever I bought with the proceeds ;-)
Popeyecahn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 09:16 AM   #12
puchfinnland 
MIKE is my name!
 
puchfinnland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: finland,baltimore
Bikes: hans lutz, , puch mistral ultima,2x Austro Daimler Smoked chrome Ultima,Austro Daimler Mixte,Austro Daimler 531 mixte, flying arrow,F Moser,
Posts: 2,880
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have learned in life not to collect trinkets, souvenirs from places(and boy have I traveled!)books are also on the list...
As for bikes, I have far too many, I think it is 10 and I was worse before.

but I use them all..or will find use for them.

My Puch Ultima many people dont believe I ride, in the perfect world I would hang it on the wall and ride it also.

Nelli's F. Moser Junior will become a wall hanger as she is unfortunately not here to enjoy it,and by next summer she will be ready for a bigger bike.
it is doomed to become a wall hanger because it is a white elephant, its just too rare and nobody would pay me for what its worth.
__________________
My name is Michael, and I am a recovering bike addict, It has been 11 months since I purchased a bicycle for myself..
(Im bound to fall off the wagon again, its just a matter of time)
Lord help me!

"Some cream crackers, a glue gun and a little imagination can turn any domestic cat into a fearsome Stegosaurus."
puchfinnland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 09:16 AM   #13
guzziee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas
Bikes:
Posts: 410
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Popeyecahn View Post
Now I would have flipped that around and be riding that Paramount by selling the Cinelli to restore the Paramount, if of course the Paramount fit me to a reasonable degree... If neither fit, they'd be gone and I'd be riding whatever I bought with the proceeds ;-)
Paramount was small for me. I've had several paramounts in the past 7 years(around 5-6) and only 1 cinelli. I sold all the paramounts except a newer one that's still hanging around(1988)

Last edited by guzziee; 10-04-13 at 07:37 AM.
guzziee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 09:58 AM   #14
eschlwc
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: on the beach
Bikes: '73 falcon sr, '76 grand record, '84 davidson
Posts: 4,862
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
i just think others are wrong.
eschlwc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 10:09 AM   #15
himespau 
Senior Member
 
himespau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Bikes:
Posts: 9,468
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
I don't have the room to display something as large as a bike for artwork (leaving aside whether or not my wife would go along with calling a bike art), nor do I have the money to buy a bike worthy of that title whether or not I chose to ride it. If you do, more power to you.
himespau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 11:58 AM   #16
The Golden Boy 
Blood And Steel!!
 
The Golden Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waukesha WI
Bikes: 1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra w/ Drop Bars
Posts: 7,300
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 60 Post(s)
There's a point in which you're a "caretaker" of your nice stuff.

I used to firmly believe that all my guitars were "players." Meaning I played whatever instrument I wanted to. Somewhere after the turn of the century, "vintage" guitars got all stupid priced- and suddenly I started thinking of the responsibility of owning a desirable piece. I still play out my old and nice stuff- but there's venues and situations that are accounted for that make me bring the 'not quite so nice' stuff.

I don't have any pieces that are "wall hanging" worthy- but if I did, that piece would be such a grail worthy piece. I recall a thread from a guitar forum about a guy who bought a new 1958 Les Paul Reissue. A nice guitar- but not the "top of the line" nice guitar. He talked about playing it at home- but I was struck by the amount of shock and surprise he appeared to have when people actually played their R8s at gigs and at practice and how he would NEVER consider taking it out of his house. It reminded me of a troll huddled up and stroking "precious."

Back to my initial point- if I had something that was a historically significant piece- yeah- you have a responsibility in your ownership. The use of that item becomes irresponsible.
__________________
*Recipient of the 2006 Time Magazine "Man Of The Year" Award*

"Go that way, really fast, if something gets in your way- turn." Charles DeMar
The Golden Boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 12:02 PM   #17
crank_addict
Senior Member
 
crank_addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 3,511
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
From being around rare vintage cars, some pre 1910, drive and enjoy them for what they are. If a classic car breaks, so what? Same with a two wheeler. Look at it, feel it, use it, it's all good. The problem I see are some having paranoia of patina. It's one thing to preserve the decals, paint and a little corrosion, but I prefer a clean frame and components. If you like dirt as décor, whatever floats your boat. Properly cleaned and done as it was supposed to be from the day it was built is just fine in my book. It's a great day and age to have the net bringing like collectors and interest together, many who are new to it. This goes for all kinds of collectables.
crank_addict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 12:09 PM   #18
randyjawa 
Senior Member
 
randyjawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Bikes: 1982 Tomassini, 1963 Peugeot PX10, and eight special issue Canadian lightweights...
Posts: 7,278
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Most of my vintage stuff now hangs on the wall, and I spend my riding time on either my Cyclops, which I upgraded to New School components, or my brand spanking new Trek Crossrip. I see aboslutely no problem with someone wanting to hang his, or her, bike on the wall and then appreciate the aesthetics of the machine.

I might even hang the made in China Trek on the wall and just look at it, now and again. I am impressed with the quality of the bicycle's construction, the overall appearance and more than impressed with the ride quality it offers.

I do like the ride quality of the older bikes, but I do not, necessarily, like the poor down tube shifting and the poor stopping capabilities. I make those comments as comparisons to riding newer school stuff that jut plain works better for me.
__________________
Learn how to find, restore and maintain vintage road bicycles at... MY "TEN SPEEDS"
randyjawa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 12:49 PM   #19
aixaix 
car guy, recovering
 
aixaix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Mount Vernon, NY
Bikes: Olympia Competizione & Special Piuma, Frejus track circa 1958, Dahon Helios, many others
Posts: 1,245
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I write this at a desk in the office of my shop, where I spend far more time than I do riding (or almost anything else). Directly above the monitor on which these words appear hangs a 1962 fillet-brazed Ephgrave track bike. Next to me is a Dahon Helios that I fold up and throw in the trunk of any car that gets dropped off locally so I can return to the shop without needing a lift. On the wall outside the office hang two Cinellis. In the shop itself are seven other ride-worthy vintage bikes and a 1901 Linwood which is unrideable. Of these bikes, I regularly ride two, though I've taken long rides on all but one of the rest.

Being able to admire the bikes while working is part of what gets me through my day. If I'm stuck inside, at least I can look at them and think about what else is in my life besides work. I'm fortunate to have the space to display them and don't feel the need to justify owning them by riding them all a certain amount. Unlike cars (and people), they don't deteriorate over time, if they are kept in a warm dry place.

Needless to say, I don't see anything wrong with having bikes you don't ride, or don't ride much. They are beautiful and evocative, which is enough justification for me.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg L1070047.jpg (101.9 KB, 58 views)
__________________
Michael Shiffer
EuroMeccanicany.com
aixaix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 12:58 PM   #20
Italuminium
Cisalpinist
 
Italuminium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Holland
Bikes: blue ones.
Posts: 5,557
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
"Why did you climb the mountain?" "Because it is there."

This discussion is perfect for a good deepity.
Italuminium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 01:02 PM   #21
20grit
Curmudgeon in Training
 
20grit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Rural Retreat, VA
Bikes: 1974 Gazelle Champion Mondial, 2010 Cannondale Trail SL, 1988 Peugeot Nice, 1992ish Stumpjumper Comp,1990's Schwinn Moab
Posts: 1,934
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Popeyecahn View Post
No different than guitars. If you can afford to hang them on a wall, who am I to argue. I can't, so what ever is in my possession is to be used for which it was designed. I don't own any museum pieces nor do I intend to, I leave that to the wealthy.
I have guitars worth 20x the value of my bikes that I still take out and play. Functional objects are fine as art, but part of their beauty lies in their functionality. Once stripped of their functionality, they lose part of their appeal. If I own something that works, I'm going to use it, no matter the value.
20grit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 01:08 PM   #22
daihard 
Senior Member
 
daihard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Seattle, WA
Bikes: Trek, Cannondale
Posts: 1,878
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 20grit View Post
I have guitars worth 20x the value of my bikes that I still take out and play. Functional objects are fine as art, but part of their beauty lies in their functionality. Once stripped of their functionality, they lose part of their appeal. If I own something that works, I'm going to use it, no matter the value.
+100.
__________________

The value of your life doesn't change based on the way you travel. - Dawn Schellenberg (SDOT)
daihard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 01:13 PM   #23
randyjawa 
Senior Member
 
randyjawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Bikes: 1982 Tomassini, 1963 Peugeot PX10, and eight special issue Canadian lightweights...
Posts: 7,278
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Quote:
I have guitars worth 20x the value of my bikes that I still take out and play. Functional objects are fine as art, but part of their beauty lies in their functionality. Once stripped of their functionality, they lose part of their appeal. If I own something that works, I'm going to use it, no matter the value.
Thanks goodness this is not an atomic bomb forum!-)
__________________
Learn how to find, restore and maintain vintage road bicycles at... MY "TEN SPEEDS"
randyjawa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 01:23 PM   #24
Velognome 
Get off my lawn!
 
Velognome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Garden State
Bikes: 1917 Loomis, 1923 Rudge, 1930 Hercules Renown, 1947 Mclean, 1948 JA Holland, 1955 Hetchins, 1957 Carlton Flyer, 1962 Raleigh Sport, 1978&81 Raleigh Gomp GS', 2010 Raliegh Clubman
Posts: 6,113
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Bikes hung on walls are like birds in fish tanks...just ain't normal

Velognome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-13, 01:30 PM   #25
ScottRyder 
Senior Member
 
ScottRyder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The other Cape, Cape Ann
Bikes: vintagefuji.posthaven.com
Posts: 2,932
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Root, you have a couple of bikes I'll hang on my wall for you! They'll be nice and safe!

That said, I have quite of few that I ride and quite a few that I hang.


Scott
ScottRyder is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:04 AM.