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Old 03-10-05, 04:12 PM
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Kotter-Albuch?

I recently bought a Kotter-Albuch cyclocross frame, columbus SL, 128mm spacing. I know it's German, and apparently the company is out of business, and they are known for the god-awful ugly paint colors (mine is kind of a sparkly orange-red, not horrible, but seems like 70s disco fever theme... Anybody have any more info on the marque? Looks like a nice quality frame, but havent built it up to test the ride yet-

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...snip... dont email me for closeup pics. buy it then you can look as close as you want ... snip...
Sounds like a seller that could leave a bad taste in your mouth. I hope it came in good condition... still, it looks pretty cool, although a closer look or a quick once over with the calipers to measure for parts might prove otherwise. I hope it rides nice for you.
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Sounds like a seller that could leave a bad taste in your mouth. I hope it came in good condition... still, it looks pretty cool, although a closer look or a quick once over with the calipers to measure for parts might prove otherwise. I hope it rides nice for you.
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Actually, it's a lesson in pre-judgement. He turned out to be a very friendly guy, even threw in extra parts (cool old style XT cantis, beat up turbo seat, campy seatpost, old dura ace headset) that werent part of the auction, and charged me very little for shipping, packed it well and sent it immediately after he got my check. He was suprised at how high the bids went, was really expecting to just dump the frame for 25 bucks. So that explains not wanting to deal with the inevitable stupid questions from non-serious ebay dwellers. I try to be very friendly to sellers, send payment the same day, the courtesy is returned. You might notice that even on an obviously nice old frame, people ask things like "will you ship to ___", or "can I put 26 in. wheels on this?" then never bother bidding as the auction closes with nobody having noticed. Ebay selling takes time and energy- he gave a reasonable description and didnt want to get ripped off by paypal fees. Good for him, good for me- it is a very nice frame, I have a fetish for cross frames and nice older steel ones are rare, at least in the US. And no problem with parts, british/standard threading/dimensions and easily found or replaced. I have no idea of the "market" value (does anyone, really?), but my $127 got me a frame that I will enjoy repainting and rolling it out on my favorite rough road adventure rides and even the occasional race. This might even be my bike of choice for my first thrashing in Yorkshire England's Three Peak cyclocross race. Check out the link, does that look cool or what? https://www.3peakscyclocross.org.uk/
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