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    Vintage Lemond - need help with year

    Hi, looking for some help on the year my Lemond was built... I've had the bike for 15 years but never knew what year it was made. Not sure what details to post, but here are a few... any info. much appreciated!

    Frame is painted blue with some yellow streaks towards the head. Columbus TSX, Speciali Superbutted, Elica Continua (made in Italy?) Size is a 56. Serial # stamp is 6 digits, starting with 28.

    Decals include Tour de France / Jr World Champion / Champion, Greg Lemond with rainbow colored sharp angled design. 'Hand Made' etched and etched signature on rear brake bridge. Also two etched signatures near seat post. 'GL' with same design on the head.

    7 speed, think it might've had tube shifters originally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimgrey View Post
    Not sure what details to post...
    I recommend starting with posting a bunch of photos.
    Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

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    Dropouts? Campy or Shimano?

    Like this one?

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    Yes that's the bike... dropouts yes, Shimano

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    1st time I see those colors in a lemond. 1st generation made in europe maybe? 1990ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    1st time I see those colors in a lemond. 1st generation made in europe maybe? 1990ish.
    Very close. I had a full Yellow one identical in all aspects except it had Campagnolo drop outs and it had 'Maillot Juane' decals. As far as I can tell TSX tubing was first used in 1989, the first Trek LeMonds were made in 1995. I think the Team Z bikes were first built in 1990.
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    This is the first time I've seen a frame that matches the bike I have... the drop outs are Campagnolo... is this a Billato bike? Anyone have a guess as to vintage? Kind of a mystery at this point.

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    What is the most recent date on the TDF decals? Can't be older than that. If you believe some the components to be original research the date codes on them. It wouldn't hurt to post a few pics or details on the components.
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    No camera at the moment, I'll see if I can borrow one... no year on the TDF decal, simply says (in this order top-down) - Tour de France, Jr World Champion, World Champion, Tour de France. Again there are no years on this decal, which certainly adds to the mystery. As for components, doubt the Shimano 105's are original but who knows. The Shimano 600 on the head, well that might be original. Just never seen this color scheme until Miamijim posted his, nor have I seen it anywhere else. Wish there was a way to look up by serial #, nothing online that I've found... detailed Trek stuff, but not old Lemonds.

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    the order of the victories sounds a bit funky but, according to this Wiki page he won his second TdF in '89 and the third in '90 so I would say your bike is a '90 model since a '91 would then have 3 TdF banners.

    If this is, as mentioned a 10 Speed Drive frame ( a company that imported contract made frames under various names) they could be painted any way the customer wanted if he was willing to pay. Is there by chance a little figure that looks like a bike rider viewed from above on the brake bridge?

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    Don't see a little figure/bike rider... but under the rear bridge is etched 'SILVA'. Who is Silva?

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    silva is the guy that did the lugs and stuff... silva is a company that manufactures lugs and stuff for bicycles.

    http://www.silvabikecomp.it/



    Quote Originally Posted by crimgrey View Post
    Don't see a little figure/bike rider... but under the rear bridge is etched 'SILVA'. Who is Silva?

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    Thanks for everyone's help/information... with some other research I've determined the bike was made & imported sometime after Greg's 2nd tour victory, and before his last (1989/1990). Sounds like the bike was a custom paint scheme, completed by the import shop in Florida (Ten Speed), as they received mainly unpainted frames (Greg was not happy with the quality of the paint in Europe, or at least Italy). Happy riding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimgrey View Post
    Thanks for everyone's help/information... with some other research I've determined the bike was made & imported sometime after Greg's 2nd tour victory, and before his last (1989/1990). Sounds like the bike was a custom paint scheme, completed by the import shop in Florida (Ten Speed), as they received mainly unpainted frames (Greg was not happy with the quality of the paint in Europe, or at least Italy). Happy riding!
    WOW you did some amazing research!

    It wasn't that Mr Lemond (sorry I am not on a first name basis) wasn't happy with the quality of the paint (but a lot of European paint was lousy at the time though) it was simply how 10 Spd Drive did it. having a supply of primed frames on hand and custome painting them here cut down on cost and turn around time. IIRC if the frame was stock you could have it in about 2 weeks and the shipping then was minimal. Custome painting in Europe would have required either waiting for a large quantity of frames to be painted or paying for individual frames to be shipped to the US.
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    Probably did cut down on cost, but he also felt the Dupont Imron paint which was used by Ten Speed was far superior to the paint material being used at the time in Italy (sourced from someone who used to spray the bikes at Ten Speed). At any rate, interesting stuff for Lemond bike history!

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    Hi that's my first post out there...anyways i'm a proud owner of a GL TSX but a bit mixed up like some owners! I found a catalogue showing a line-up but have no exact dating but suspect 91-92 by the paint scheme.Mine is red/yellow/blue but the yellow is fluorescent like early ones and the red is on top not the bottom.My BB has three lines cut out on the under side which i suspect is scapin but not really sure. I also dont have columbus stickers anywhere on the frame but the tubing inside is ribbed so TSX probably.My drive side chain stay is chromed with a yellow pin stripe near BB unlike some i've seen which are fully painted.The CF has better info i find since the design is very recognizable because of the shape. Sorry can't post my bike...pics too large but i gotta pic you will like
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    The Lemonds were beautifully crafted bikes, but I just cannot get myself to like the color combinations they used on the bikes......
    The yellow, black and baby blue on this bike just do not seem to naturally go together IMO.....
    I guess one can get used to it.
    Back in the 80's, I used to find the Celeste color on Bianchis really weird, but it eventually grew on me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimgrey View Post
    Hi, looking for some help on the year my Lemond was built... I've had the bike for 15 years but never knew what year it was made. Not sure what details to post, but here are a few... any info. much appreciated!

    Frame is painted blue with some yellow streaks towards the head. Columbus TSX, Speciali Superbutted, Elica Continua (made in Italy?) Size is a 56. Serial # stamp is 6 digits, starting with 28.

    Decals include Tour de France / Jr World Champion / Champion, Greg Lemond with rainbow colored sharp angled design. 'Hand Made' etched and etched signature on rear brake bridge. Also two etched signatures near seat post. 'GL' with same design on the head.

    7 speed, think it might've had tube shifters originally.

    I just bought one of these as well, from here (first photo):

    Greg Lemond Classic Road Bike (PRICE NEGOTIABLE)

    I cannot find much on it, but I've deduced it's a Lemond TSX from 1993 in the Gan colors off of Bicycle Blue Book. It's probably the last one in this color scheme and using TSX before it was made in EXCELL GLX tubing here (second photo).

    If anyone else can say definitively, please let me know. You've had it for 15 years? How does it ride? I haven't gotten to try it out yet as I'm not in town and haven't had the chance to demo it yet.
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