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Old 01-20-14, 02:49 PM   #1
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Score! 1985 Miyata 610

Picked this guy up yesterday. I had sold my 1983 210 a few years ago to purchase my 1995 Cannondale and have regretted the sale (not the purchase) ever since. I have been passively looking for a proper touring bike for a few months, full braze-ons, cantilever brakes, the whole 9 yards. This was posted on the local CL and it was mine within an hour for a cooooool price of a single Benjamin.

It was quickly stripped and sorted for cleaning, and here are the pics as it sits right now (cranks are still on, friend has borrowed my extractor).

First is a pic of my long gone 210. It left me with different bars, stem, seatpost and downtube power ratchet shifters


Here is the 610 as picked up (on my roof rack obviously). Bars were bent and stem is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life.


As it sits now, ready for further dis assembly and cleaning. Check out that








Plans are to upgrade the wheelset on my Cannondale and move the old wheels over to this bike. Get some nice x32 tires for those wheels, fenders, racks, etc. I already have an SR stem from my parts bin, and have ordered a B115 Nitto off Ebay to replace the bits that came with the bike.

Any suggestions for further upgrades? I am pretty excited to start a new build
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Nice score! I picked this one up a week ago for a Benjamin as well, but it included a Trek 1200 too. The 610 has nice canti brakes, but similarly equipped with crappy bars and stem.



I've also got another 610 in the work queue, but with side pull brakes.
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Nice find..........I am stilling pining for a canti version of the 610 after finding this '83 (I think) for $10 at a garage sale a few years ago. As found, I have since made several mod's and just recently pulled the tires for my daughters mixte.

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Keep those original Dia-compe 981 canti brakes! They have just enough adjustment to fit 700C wheels. I haven't been really lucky finding modern replacement brakes for these older touring frames for reasonable money.

Anyway, good find! Congrats! Maybe some bar-end shifters and Nitto Randonneur handlebars would look nice. I'd keep the "half-step plus granny" crank.

Edit- look like 960 cantilevers- Are you sure it's an '85? The '85's also had Mountech derailleurs front and rear. Somewhere there's a mnemonic about determining frame manufacturing year from the serial number's first letter... I believe 1985 was "M", 1986 was "N", etc.

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Congrats! You'll love it. I picked my '85 up last fall for $150 in pristine condition, including the stock tires. I switched over my Brooks B17, put on Brook tape (half price at, of all places, Nordstroms), suntour barcons and put on suntour cyclone mk II derailleurs in place of the stock shimano. It's a great, great bike. At this point I have no plans to retire the stock wheels, as they're in great shape.
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The previous owner said he bought it in 1985, and the specs seem to match up quite closely to the following catalog page from '85:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_whtVpXkKwl...0-h/img095.jpg

I ended up purchasing B115 bars instead of the randonneur model since I found an awesome deal. I have never tried bar ends before... Anyone have any laying around!?

Edit: why on earth are bar ends so expensive on eBay!? I am pretty sure I could get STI levers for these prices...

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Bar ends are used on time-trial bikes as well, so they can get really expensive. Look for older ones; 7, 8 and 9 speed that have a friction setting. I use the Suntour "power ratchet" friction bar end shifters for my touring bikes, but they're getting hard to find since they haven't been made in about a quarter-century. FleaBay sometimes has them for about $40, but you gotta jump on them.

Mine must be an '84 with the Mountech derailleurs. My bad. So "M" in the serial number is 1984.
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Yea I have seen them before for around $40 but I am seeing ones listed like this, which seems insane!

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=310709339045
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Yea I have seen them before for around $40 but I am seeing ones listed like this, which seems insane!

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=310709339045
Yeah, barcon prices are sometimes VERY overpriced. I got a pair on Craigslist for $20,but probably won't get that lucky again. And the bike does look like an '85.
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I have found them at swap meets as stem, bar, lever, shifter combo's when people are to lazy to break them down and usually at a good price. Also look for bikes on CL that sometimes have them.........if the bike and the price is right, you can get the shifters and recoup your money with the rest of the bike.
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Nice find..........I am stilling pining for a canti version of the 610 after finding this '83 (I think) for $10 at a garage sale a few years ago. As found, I have since made several mod's and just recently pulled the tires for my daughters mixte.
Hopefully you lowered stem.
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Replaced with a stem adapter and 1 1/8 headless stem
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Crank pulled. Headset next but I am waiting on another bike in the queue to get built/parts to come in before I get too deep into this one.



1987 Indiana University - Bloomington License, Assuming a 1986 behind it (my birth year). Should I remove these or leave them for history sake?



Any idea what this braze-on is for on the drive side chainstay?

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Crank pulled. Headset next but I am waiting on another bike in the queue to get built/parts to come in before I get too deep into this one.



1987 Indiana University - Bloomington License, Assuming a 1986 behind it (my birth year). Should I remove these or leave them for history sake?



Any idea what this braze-on is for on the drive side chainstay?

Protection from chain rub, I think.
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Ah, that is pretty neat then!
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Mailman came, brought the replacement bars, man are they nice looking. I the stem I have does NOT do them justice.





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Congratulations! It's going be a sweet, sweet bike!

Don't forget to post it in the Touring Bike thread.
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Just a little update. Seems like permafrost has invaded Kentucky so I haven't been able to go out riding lately.

Not riding makes me antsy, so I started the arduous task of cleaning EVERYTHING.. After a few hours in a hot sink and tons of dish detergent, things are looking good!

Crankset and Seatpost disassembled and scrubbed.



Back together and squeaky clean!



Next night's 'dishes' yielded more squeaky clean parts. This time, with careful lubrication after the process. (New brake pads too!)



One of the things that was disassembled for a proper clean/lube were the downtube shifters. I had noticed that the rear shifter had kind of a 'dead spot' in it when you went up a gear after going down, or down a gear after going up. Turns out it was a fubar'd clamp on shifter boss, seen below.



Well, this just isn't going to do. Ran by my favorite local bike shop to pick up a few parts for a friends bike I am building, and decided to 'poke' about some old bar ends. Low and behold, a tiny spare parts box came out and tada! A VERY VERY VERY good price later, and I was out the door with my first set of barcons. These are SL-BS50. Friction, and will index 7 speeds. Might be time to upgrade that stock 6 speed Shimano UG freewheel.



I have also ordered a set of Panaracer Pasela TG's for an extremely good price (sub 15/tire shipped) off fleaBay. Those should be here sometime this week.

I can't wait till warmer weather shows up.
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Very, very nice.
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Nitto 115 - same as OEM on my late '74 Fuji...

Gotta love Japanese bikes since just about everything can be upgraded/interchanged as needed/desired! I love barcons, too!

Oh, and '85/86 is just about the epitome of Japanese bikes (to me anyway), so congrats on your 610!

Your next quest is to find another '85 or '86 610 or 1000, but in 23"/57cm for me!
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I have also ordered a set of Panaracer Pasela TG's for an extremely good price (sub 15/tire shipped) off fleaBay. Those should be here sometime this week.

I can't wait till warmer weather shows up.
Looks like things are coming along great. And thanks for the alert on the Paselas. Went to FB and ordered two for myself to complete my Blue 1985 610. (Well, almost complete. I still need bottle cages and fenders, but those can wait a bit.) I was waiting for a deal on those, so this was perfect.

Spring and warm weather is nowhere in sight here in Minnesota, so I'll be biding my time before I get on the bike.
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Snowpocalypse is brewing outdoors, so here are some pics of the work completed tonight indoors. Pics show a mostly assembled bike on my workbench, including my new-to-me black Brooks saddle with Copper rivets. Still left to go: chain, cables, housings, bar tape, hubs/bearings cleaned/re-greased and Pasela TGs mounted. Still have a few parts coming in the mail, including a 7 speed freewheel so I can make the most out of my indexing bar-ends.





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Snowpocalypse is brewing outdoors, so here are some pics of the work completed tonight indoors. Pics show a mostly assembled bike on my workbench, including my new-to-me black Brooks saddle with Copper rivets. Still left to go: chain, cables, housings, bar tape, hubs/bearings cleaned/re-greased and Pasela TGs mounted. Still have a few parts coming in the mail, including a 7 speed freewheel so I can make the most out of my indexing bar-ends.





It's coming along nicely!

You probably should trim the hoods to allow the lever to pull. Just snip about a half cm on each side and across. It'll keep the hood from tearing.
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Yea I am not entirely happy with how the hoods ended up fitting. I will definitely take your advice though, make them last a bit longer.


These are shimano levers, anyone know of a different source for replacement hoods?
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