YoKev

American all the way. Two possible bikes on my chopping block are my Woodrup and a Motobecane GP.

Chombi

My grail bikes:
Masi 3V Volumetrica
Peugeot PY10FC
Alan Record Carbonio*
Vitus Carbone.*
Two of these* I already have and is making my C&V experience the best that it could be! thye hunt continues for the other two. Maybe I can still find and ride them before I die!
I tried to explain why these are my grail bikes, but I always ended up starting a novel...so this is the shortest post I can put together for this thread....Aaack!, Stop typing you fool!!...Stop!....Stop!....Stop!!

lenA

80ish Bianchi Super Corsa

I'm a man of simple tastes

xuwol7

Someday I would love to have a vintage french look steel bike.
They just look so perfect.

eastcoaststeve

Aim high T.

If anyone can snag that stable it's you.

Steve

repechage

This is about as close to the "Breaking Away" movie bike as you will find.
A few cm too big, but right era, color, almost same transfers, (NO idea why they put blue chainstay graphics on it)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Masi-Gr...item19e7d96967

AZORCH

I really enjoy the bikes I've got right now and could easily never add another without losing a minute of sleep. That said, I'd be very interested in a Toei or a Jack Taylor, very different but both are intriguing to me.

iab

1947-1951. And a Cino, not a Giotto.

gaucho777 

Oh, man, I wish I hadn't seen that. I was going to say a CA Masi is a grail bike for me. My size, too. I just don't have an extra $1500 at the moment. Must replenish bike fund!

iab

First, this is a commuter, not a randonneur. Typical rides of 30-60 minutes, occasional "long" ride of 90 minutes.

Condorino bars with an integrated stem. Condorino because they are narrow, easily integrate brake levers and looks cool. I can route the cable through the bars, into the stem, through the frame to the disc brakes. I would make custom rotors because I can, I want a certain look. The integrated stem would also contain a head light and electronics so I can dock my smart phone.

There will be a custom pcb to control lights and an on-board battery pack (in the seat post, maybe). I'm thinking an electronic di2 Alfine. Not so much for where I live now, but for where I live in the future, I may want the gears. In addition to the head light, I would put front and side-facing blinkies in the fork. I'll do the same in the back by integrating blinkies in the fender.

A rear rack for going to the grocery store. But the 1930s geometry will accommodate an integrated lock in the rear seat stays and a "tool box" between the rear fender and seat tube. No front rack to begin with, I don't like the weight up front.

Clinchers because I want a minimum of 32 mm, 35mm tires being ideal.

I am also thinking a belt drive put I am not 100% convinced.

Stainless because like a monkey, I like shiny things. Also, it requires little maintenance. And I am thinking about a variation of a cromovelato finish, but mostly bare stainless.

As for the builder, Wages would be cool but I really don't care. I just want the bike I want.

I'll post renderings sometime (a long time out) in the future.

ish

An early Ritchey MTB, a Rick Hunter custom, and a 1997 Kona Explosif are the remaining "grail" bikes I seek.

Grail bikes already acquired:
1979/1980 Ritchey Road Classic
1981 Stumpjumper
1981 Yoshi Konno-built Sequoia
1985 Rockhopper
1988 Merlin Mountain
Tom Teesdale-built Kona Hots (multiple)

kylarr

I recently found what I consider a grail in the 1951-52 Cinelli I just got. I didn't know what I had till it showed up and I saw exactly what it was. I am an ardent fan and collector of Cinelli Super Corsa's and this one, with the age and the fact that it came with a derailleur of which less than ten are known to exist made it pretty much the ultimate find for me. That said, while satiated now, I will be back looking for another bike sometime in the future.

The other bikes I want are an Ephgrave with #1 lugs and a Rene Herse racer from the early fifties. I also want a lever shifted Cinelli someday, its really all I have left to look for as far as Cinelli's go. I hope that when the next one goes for auction IAB has already found his.

That said, all the previous bikes are attainable with patience and money. The bike I want and will be looking for maybe forever is a truly rare maybe non existent one. There were reportedly ten of the prototype Campagnolo Gran Sport derailleurs with the twin cable actuation that were shown at the 1949 Milan bike show made. I would like to find a bike that has one of these derailleurs on it. I also could not afford to pay what that derailleur alone is worth so I need to find it in a situation where only I know what is being sold. I think this is going to keep me surfing eBay for at least the next few decades.

paulkal

I already have my grail bike, a custom made Nagasawa with C-record.
I now want another Japanese high-end bike, like a Level or Toei.

gomango

Your Nagasawa is one of my all time favorites.

Exceptional in every way.

DIMcyclist

Japanese, definitely. Maybe a 650b Cherubim rando...

Anything beyond that would be custom or purpose-built.

I should temper that by mentioning that I consider 'things' in and of themselves to be sort of philosophical trap, hence why I really don't bother much with the whole idea of a 'grail' bike; it fits under the label of illusions (like Lacan's "Objet A," if you feel like looking it up).

I think we can agree that what you do with the objects in your life is a lot more important than merely having them.

Sixty Fiver

I think my tastes lean pretty heavily to the British end of things since my collection is dominated by them...

Built one... my P20 touring bike ("Forrest")



From the first time I rode a Moulton I knew I needed to have one... it has become my daily driver when the weather is nice and spoiled me for wanting anything else.



There are many bicycles I have that I adore because of many things... some of them have a lot of miles and we have a history together and I would not trade them for anything.

My 1955 Lenton... not as easy to find as a Moulton.



From here on in any new bike I get will be built by myself save for the recumbent trike I plan to pick up in the spring although that too may serve as a template for a future custom build.

Sixty Fiver

As far as road bikes go... the Ron Cooper keeps my eyes from wandering. It is a little plain looking (as many racing bikes are) and well ridden but is absolute perfection on the road.

OldsCOOL

I'm simpler, cheaper than most. There have been the Campy grouppo Bianchi's and Treks that have been on my shortlist but nothing can move the C-Dale SR700 Black Lightning off my grail status search.

inamars

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