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Old 01-24-14, 01:10 AM   #1
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Help needed identifying vintage bike

Hey all, I'm new to this site and was after some help.

I have just purchased a vintage bike to restore and need some help identifying what brand it is. It is quite rusty and the head tube decal as well as seat tube decals are very worn, the guards have been painted at some stage as well (I think). I have tried Google searching the letters that I can make out on the decals but am not having much luck. Being from New Zealand I know that there were a lot of Raleigh's, Phillips and Humber's around as well as a few New Zealand brands, So because of that I am wondering if it is from the UK?

There is also a serial number that is on the top of the seat stay.

Anyway here are some pictures of the whole bike and head tube and seat tube.

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Old 02-15-14, 01:32 PM   #2
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Hey all, I'm new to this site and was after some help.

I have just purchased a vintage bike to restore and need some help identifying what brand it is. It is quite rusty and the head tube decal as well as seat tube decals are very worn, the guards have been painted at some stage as well (I think). I have tried Google searching the letters that I can make out on the decals but am not having much luck. Being from New Zealand I know that there were a lot of Raleigh's, Phillips and Humber's around as well as a few New Zealand brands, So because of that I am wondering if it is from the UK?

There is also a serial number that is on the top of the seat stay.

Anyway here are some pictures of the whole bike and head tube and seat tube.

It's a Humber Sports, here's the head decal on one I just picked up this morning, frame, fork, headset, and crankset only. Mine appears to be late 30's or very early 40's. The top says "By Appointment" and beneath that is "King George VI" then on down with the Latin banner, the bicycle wheel, then Humber MF England, then The Humber. Haven't decided what I'll do with mine, but I got it for free. Can you post more pics of your Humber and we can compare details?
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Old 02-16-14, 06:34 AM   #3
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Yes, the guards would have been painted the same color as the frame. Yours has the plain chainring, while most have 5 people running in a circle around it. It could be a chainring from a ladies' bike which seems to be the norm. Here's one probably as yours came originally:

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Old 02-20-14, 08:28 PM   #4
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Hey there. Yes after a lot of unsuccessful research I found a local bike shop that could help me. The owner of the shop is Keith, and he has his own personal vintage bicycle collection. Just from looking at the bike he could tell me that it was late 30's, was a lightweight steel frame (for its time) and he had a feeling it was also a Humber. After 20 or so minutes of his own online research he was 99% sure it was a Humber.He also identified it by "The Appointment of" wording on the head badge. He said that it was weird however that it did not have the duplex forks, saying he had only seen one other without the duplex forks and that it was in his own collection. So I am wondering if the forks that are on it are not the original forks? Also I have been looking online and there seem to be a few Humbers for sale, here in New Zealand that have the standard chain ring.


Thank you for your help in identifying it, yours does look quite similar. I have attached 19 photos of mine so we can compare, it would be good to know some more about mine. And yeah it is a shame the guads had been painted... oh well. At the moment I am enjoying riding it as is. But I will start to restore it in the very near future I think.
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Old 02-20-14, 08:31 PM   #5
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Old 02-20-14, 08:36 PM   #6
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Old 02-21-14, 06:40 AM   #7
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Hey there. Yes after a lot of unsuccessful research I found a local bike shop that could help me. The owner of the shop is Keith, and he has his own personal vintage bicycle collection. Just from looking at the bike he could tell me that it was late 30's, was a lightweight steel frame (for its time) and he had a feeling it was also a Humber. After 20 or so minutes of his own online research he was 99% sure it was a Humber.He also identified it by "The Appointment of" wording on the head badge. He said that it was weird however that it did not have the duplex forks, saying he had only seen one other without the duplex forks and that it was in his own collection. So I am wondering if the forks that are on it are not the original forks? Also I have been looking online and there seem to be a few Humbers for sale, here in New Zealand that have the standard chain ring.


Thank you for your help in identifying it, yours does look quite similar. I have attached 19 photos of mine so we can compare, it would be good to know some more about mine. And yeah it is a shame the guads had been painted... oh well. At the moment I am enjoying riding it as is. But I will start to restore it in the very near future I think.
Good to hear back from you. Yes, some models were sold with duplex forks, some with single. Best I can figure out is that there were sport and touring models, what you and I have is the sport model, which carries the single forks and a small chainguard. The touring models had the duplex forks and the giant chainguard which was an enclosed guard to keep road dust out of the chain, since they just didn't have all that many paved roads back in the 30's. Mine differs from yours in that it has the "5 running people" around the chainring.

I love this frame, even though it's bent up, but I'll get it restored. Completely round fork tubes, heavy-duty seat-stays, built-in pump holder, seat-post mounted cable guidewheel, dropout eyelets for fenders. Great stuff. Here's my pics:


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Old 02-21-14, 06:50 AM   #8
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