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Old 02-12-14, 11:20 PM   #26
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Ok well like I said I caved in once I realized the price Wald sells bars for. Once again, if anybody wants DiaCompe brake levers with suicide levers and Sakae Road Champion Custom bars (custom is the name), please let me know here.

Here are some pictures of how it looks now. Like I said, it was $40 including bars, levers, cables and 8ft of housing which I didnt need, so maybe the price was a little lower (edit: and 12 beers). It definitely looks much cleaner without any tape on the handlebars. I only have yellow electrical tape and I used that anywhere the housings for any cabels touched the front basket, at least it matches. I also wrapped up the tape real real thick since the bar is 7/8" and I had extra tape. Im probaly gonna give it a short test tonight.

Sorry for the kinda messy kitchen and clutter in the living room, I stay in an apartment..

(edit 2: the rear brake cable housing is too long but Im filing the ends by hand with a file so I just left it there. It shouldnt get in the way of any loads in the front basket since it has plenty of room to move. Any problems with that setup?)






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Old 02-13-14, 12:20 AM   #27
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I suggest using dropouts but other than that, great bike! I have an '88 Schwinn Sprint that has done me well since! You did not go wrong buying it!

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Lookin' good!
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Looks good. I would dramatically shorten stem shifter housings, that would eliminate a lot of the clutter. Invest in a good set of cable cutters. Heck, even the Nashbar/Spin Doctor cutters are pretty decent, and often go on sale.

Check out the Schwinn catalogs or pictures on the web for guidance.

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Looks good. I would dramatically shorten stem shifter housings, that would eliminate a lot of the clutter. Invest in a good set of cable cutters. Heck, even the Nashbar/Spin Doctor cutters are pretty decent, and often go on sale.

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That really does look LEAGUES better.

I don't mean to be picky, and I'm honestly not trying to be disrespectful or anything to you or your bike, I understand that you want to protect your housing from contact with other metal things- hence the electrical tape. If you feel you really need that, perhaps some black electrical tape would be less obtrusive?

I think you may be able to trim your housing so that you don't need any reinforcement of your housing.



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Looks good. I would dramatically shorten stem shifter housings, that would eliminate a lot of the clutter. Invest in a good set of cable cutters. Heck, even the Nashbar/Spin Doctor cutters are pretty decent, and often go on sale.

Check out the Schwinn catalogs or pictures on the web for guidance.

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Im thinking good cutters is definitely what I need. I'm using cheap needlenose with the real small cutter, then filing by hand, which takes me a while. I think once I have good cutters I will shorten the shifter housings like you said. Thanks a lot.

edit: the shifter housings are original and they are cramped but worked, that's why they are too long in the first place. If I were to shorten I'm guessing I ould just get a new cable and housing.

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That really does look LEAGUES better.

I don't mean to be picky, and I'm honestly not trying to be disrespectful or anything to you or your bike, I understand that you want to protect your housing from contact with other metal things- hence the electrical tape. If you feel you really need that, perhaps some black electrical tape would be less obtrusive?

I think you may be able to trim your housing so that you don't need any reinforcement of your housing.



I would like you to have a bike that is not only utilitarian, but also something you can be proud of. You have ALL the makings for it.

Best wishes.
I couldn't think of a way to keep the housings off the basket, besides the shifter housings which I should trim like mentioned above. And I agree the yellow looks like it's just too much. I thought I would just be able to put small yellow strips where it touched but it touches in all those places as you turn the bars. I'm gonna pick up some black tape today and redo it. I'll probably just put the black over so and just one layer so I feel like I didn't waste all the other tape.

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You have a good thing going on now. Schwinn Travelers were decent bikes and I think it will serve you well. Just buy some good cable cutters (like others have said) and clean up the cable mess. Good work!
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Can you see if a LBS would cut your housing for free? That way you have managable housing lengths, you may not need to have much of any basket contact.

Where do your cables run down your downtube?

I just did the "cross cable" thing on my bike- so the shifter for the FD crosses to the right hand cable stop, and then crosses over the other cable on the way down to the BB and on to the FD. The right shifter crosses to the left cable stop and crosses on the way to the BB then on to the RD.

That may make a gentle enough bend that you can not hit the basket.
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Can you see if a LBS would cut your housing for free? That way you have managable housing lengths, you may not need to have much of any basket contact.

Where do your cables run down your downtube?

I just did the "cross cable" thing on my bike- so the shifter for the FD crosses to the right hand cable stop, and then crosses over the other cable on the way down to the BB and on to the FD. The right shifter crosses to the left cable stop and crosses on the way to the BB then on to the RD.

That may make a gentle enough bend that you can not hit the basket.
I think they run on top of the down tube and bb, it has those guides that the bare wire runs through so I think the approach of the wire would need to stay straight. I think I can keep the shift wires off the basket as is with shorter housings. The rear brake cable will probably have to touch no matter what.
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Im thinking good cutters is definitely what I need. I'm using cheap needlenose with the real small cutter, then filing by hand, which takes me a while. I think once I have good cutters I will shorten the shifter housings like you said. Thanks a lot.

edit: the shifter housings are original and they are cramped but worked, that's why they are too long in the first place. If I were to shorten I'm guessing I ould just get a new cable and housing.
Highly doubt it. While they may well be what was on there when you bought the bike, my guess is the former owner screwed them up. I've owned a lot of Schwinns from that era, including some with stem shifters. Cable housings were about 1/3 the length you have now.

As you can see from this link, the shift cables continued up towards the handlebars at approximately the same angle as the down tube, then they did about a 140 degree turn up to the shift levers. Yours dip down a lot towards the fork, creating a downward turn first, then they eventually loop up to the levers. No immediate rush job, its just one of those small details to keep in mind as you acquire some tools (or head to a co-op).

http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1...985Ltwt19.html
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Highly doubt it. While they may well be what was on there when you bought the bike, my guess is the former owner screwed them up. I've owned a lot of Schwinns from that era, including some with stem shifters. Cable housings were about 1/3 the length you have now.

As you can see from this link, the shift cables continued up towards the handlebars at approximately the same angle as the down tube, then they did about a 140 degree turn up to the shift levers. Yours dip down a lot towards the fork, creating a downward turn first, then they eventually loop up to the levers. No immediate rush job, its just one of those small details to keep in mind as you acquire some tools (or head to a co-op).

http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1...985Ltwt19.html
I think in my pictures it looks exaggerated because the basket forces them out to the sides and a little down. The picture on the first page before the basket was mounted kind of shows they aren't as long as they look, but still longer than the pic on the brochure you linked. Couldn't the assembly person have cut the housing maybe an inch or two longer? It wouldn't need much to appear to have a much bigger loop because the distance is so short.

Also the housings were kind of clear, or more of a green by this point. They were the exact same as the brake housing. Every single other thing on the bike was original, so I just think it would be weird to change all the housings for brakes and shifters and that's it.
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OK now I think I am all done for a while, unless I feel like polishing some aluminum. The brake cables were covered in black tape just to cover the yellow, and the shifter housings no longer touch the basket.

edit: you guys were right, the housing was probably twice as long as it needed to be. It is probably still a little bit longer than it needs to be, but not by much. It doesnt touch the basket, but still kinda slopes down towards the front wheel before it goes up to the stem shifter. Not much, and since it doesnt touch the basket I think it will stay this way.




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Well I for one am sad to see this. It's never a good feeling to see someone cave to peer pressure. One more sheep in the wall. If I wasn't such a drop bar fanatic, I'd put them upright on mine just to be recalcitrant.
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Well I for one am sad to see this. It's never a good feeling to see someone cave to peer pressure. One more sheep in the wall. If I wasn't such a drop bar fanatic, I'd put them upright on mine just to be recalcitrant.
Yeah well only one person said they didn't like them and that I look like I lost my license, but that's not why I changed them. I've always thought it would look better with a bar made to be upright. I also knew that a wider bar would give me more leverage when I have weight in the front basket. What I didn't know is wald sells bars out of lbs's in my area for $13. It was a waste of $10 only (used crosstop levers and road brake cables which I changed to the correct type for my new brake lever) so I'm not too upset. I'm happier with the bike now, and I actually don't like bein the guy who TRIES to be different (or looks like he is) anyway.
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It becomes a lot easier once you develop an overall foul taste for your native culture ^^
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There's also a culture native to the bicycles commonly parked by liquor stores.

I'm all for making your ride comfortable and work to the best abilities for what you need. There's just far more reasons to not ride with drop bars flipped upside down than to ride with them that way.
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There's also a culture native to the bicycles commonly parked by liquor stores.

I'm all for making your ride comfortable and work to the best abilities for what you need. There's just far more reasons to not ride with drop bars flipped upside down than to ride with them that way.
Well your only reason is you'll look like a bum or look like you have a DUI and suspended license. And honestly, I usually will check out a bike when I see somebody on one and Ive never seen a bum (or anybody that I can remember) with their bars set up how I had mine. They were flipped upside down and turned around, so it wouldn't be just a one tool fix. And you would need to buy new bar tape since you removed the old to get the bars out. So no, I dont think the bars like that are part of a culture of bikes parked by liquor stores.

Regardless of all that extra work and money required for tape and appropriate levers, who really cares what some people think about you or your bike. The only negative I felt when everybody was staring at me is that they might think Im doing it to try to be cool, rather than just being comfortable and making the best with what I had or was cheap, but like I just said I shouldnt really care about that.

This guy really seems to like it, and it looks like he is doing this to other peoples bikes too. http://domotion2011.wordpress.com/re...ification-dyi/
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Ok Im thinking I like the bikes where they have a painted line around the lugs of the frame. Are all of these from the factory like that? Or do some people use touchup paint or nail polish? Im thinking of doing either white or yello, or maybe a little of both if I can think of a nice way to do that.

Any suggestions? Just leave it? I would never paint the whole frame, but Im thinking just the little lines around the lugs would look nice.
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Ok Im thinking I like the bikes where they have a painted line around the lugs of the frame. Are all of these from the factory like that? Or do some people use touchup paint or nail polish? Im thinking of doing either white or yello, or maybe a little of both if I can think of a nice way to do that.

Any suggestions? Just leave it? I would never paint the whole frame, but Im thinking just the little lines around the lugs would look nice.
Both, some people around here do their own lug pinstriping.. I'd suggest practice and a very fine brush.
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Lots of bikes that I've seen here in Sweden have handlebars that are very similar to the Wald ones you used. I suppose the popularity is why Wald has made them for so long, even with such high manufacturing labor costs as you find in the USA.

I suppose the last modification barely took one bottle each of vodka and Jägermeister?
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Lots of bikes that I've seen here in Sweden have handlebars that are very similar to the Wald ones you used. I suppose the popularity is why Wald has made them for so long, even with such high manufacturing labor costs as you find in the USA.

I suppose the last modification barely took one bottle each of vodka and Jägermeister?
Haha I was wondering if anybody would notice that. I actually did have some of that Jagermeister, but I had some neighbors over and was helping somebody with their bike so it was a group effort. Just noticed in that pic I still had the napkins in my basket from the late night Carls Jr too!

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Thanks, Im gonna give it a try. Im thinking this work might be best done before the beer count gets too high. Hopefully I can do a good job.
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Well your only reason is you'll look like a bum or look like you have a DUI and suspended license. And honestly, I usually will check out a bike when I see somebody on one and Ive never seen a bum (or anybody that I can remember) with their bars set up how I had mine. They were flipped upside down and turned around, so it wouldn't be just a one tool fix. And you would need to buy new bar tape since you removed the old to get the bars out. So no, I dont think the bars like that are part of a culture of bikes parked by liquor stores.

Regardless of all that extra work and money required for tape and appropriate levers, who really cares what some people think about you or your bike. The only negative I felt when everybody was staring at me is that they might think Im doing it to try to be cool, rather than just being comfortable and making the best with what I had or was cheap, but like I just said I shouldnt really care about that.
I know I should just let you be-

I see bars set up like that, and I think "hobo." I don't care if they're configured minutely differently. I wouldn't give them a second look. Hobo. Bum. DWI. You, yourself referred to them as "bum bars." I live down the street from a liquor store. I see these bikes laying on the sidewalk in front of the liquor store. I do not see these bikes out and about on recreational rides.

As to who cares... I do. I work hard for my stuff- I deserve to have stuff that I'm proud of because I've earned it. It seems that you're proud of your bike. Cool. It's a cool bike to be proud of, and it's in great shape and it's an immensely practical machine with the baskets you have set up. You were proud enough of it to post pictures on the internet and ask strangers what they thought. That's awesome. I think you have a really cool machine that's worthy to be proud of. I would like it to look nice for you. You've gotten more than 4 people in this thread that have made mention of the DWI-ness of the bike. It would be really nice if no-one made any comments about "bum bars" or "hobo" or "DWI" or "assload of beers" or 'less than a bottle of vodka and Jaegermeister.' I would be most happy if people saw your machine and ONLY thought that it was a cool bike with a variety of purpose.

I wish you the best, and I sincerely hope you enjoy your bike and riding your bike.
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I know I should just let you be-

I see bars set up like that, and I think "hobo." I don't care if they're configured minutely differently. I wouldn't give them a second look. Hobo. Bum. DWI. You, yourself referred to them as "bum bars." I live down the street from a liquor store. I see these bikes laying on the sidewalk in front of the liquor store. I do not see these bikes out and about on recreational rides.

As to who cares... I do. I work hard for my stuff- I deserve to have stuff that I'm proud of because I've earned it. It seems that you're proud of your bike. Cool. It's a cool bike to be proud of, and it's in great shape and it's an immensely practical machine with the baskets you have set up. You were proud enough of it to post pictures on the internet and ask strangers what they thought. That's awesome. I think you have a really cool machine that's worthy to be proud of. I would like it to look nice for you. You've gotten more than 4 people in this thread that have made mention of the DWI-ness of the bike. It would be really nice if no-one made any comments about "bum bars" or "hobo" or "DWI" or "assload of beers" or 'less than a bottle of vodka and Jaegermeister.' I would be most happy if people saw your machine and ONLY thought that it was a cool bike with a variety of purpose.

I wish you the best, and I sincerely hope you enjoy your bike and riding your bike.
Well I called them bum bars because that's the closest name, I then went on to describe te differences from "real" bum bars.

Regarding the "who cares", the owner obviously does, but you are saying you care what others think. My bike wasn't dirty, stinky, unsanitary, but it also wasn't the "right" way. The only thing you are proud of is doing things the exact same way 99% of people have done before you. That's like being proud of buying a fashion style.

Im sorry you don't like people talking about beer and booze, but that's probably 50% of what the bike will carry, maybe a little less. Also, yes, I like to drink a little every once in a while, especially if I'm at home working on a bicycle or instrument or anything. Sorry somebody noticed I had empty bottles on my kitchen counter, and made a joke about it. Actually, sorry it bothers you.

also yes, people mentioned they're called bum bars/ DUI bars, they did not say their opinion, just what they're called.

After saying all that, you don't have to leave me alone. I just think it's surprising how much you hate them "just cause." Did you have a bad experience with alcohol? Serious question.

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