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    @ Sixty Fiver - that's a great looking Peugeot. Orange too. Don't think I've seen an orange one before. I'm fond of unique colors like that!

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    Re-thinking my $80 initial buy. Have to do a complete tear down for sanity and survival. Tossed aside the 27" steel rims, Crapagnola high-flange wheels. Spokes bad or missing. Scary tires - checked rot. So I've got a set of old take-offs Mavic w/ Vittoria tubulars and a short stack SR freewheel finally get to use. Laugh at the miss-clocked cottered crank. Goodness sake someone rode it like this. Gooiest scuzz bar tape I've ever encountered. I have enough odd's and end's to make something good of it and my remaining budget will go for a new chain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocivixen View Post
    @oddjob - didn't you get a steal on 2 Stumpjumpers that you mentioned above? So you're not using them on this challenge?
    I have the Hardrock, but, as usual I spent $ on new cables, housing, brake pads, etc. so I'm over $100. Plus I'm not supposed to ride for awhile longer (surgery). The bike really only needed to have the front derailleur cable tightened, and I could have ridden it no problem. I still have the time to enter this challenge and get the riding done, but now I don't have a less than $100 bike!
    I could have entered the Stumpy or a 1989 Schwinn Tempo, but it appears that the spirit of this self policing contest is to rescue a POS and make a worthy 100km bike of it.
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    n + 3

    I hope I am not too late to the Party. I had a bunch of traveling to do. I stopped at the local bike seller to pick up a new bike for the Missus.
    $52 later this came home, a 27" wheeled Shimano shifted 6 speed step thru, it had some fairly wide fenders that got swapped to the hybrid and it's skinny fenders will be swapped onto this one.


    While I was wandering around the shop, I saw this a 28" wheeled Shimano IGH 3 speed - $42


    As I was looking further I found this compact frame hybrid 700c 7 speed - $42


    I swapped out the fat fenders from the 6 speed step thru onto the hybrid and dug out a 7 speed shifter/v brake combo from the bins, installed a $3 front rack, and put on some used panasonic 700x42 tires and so far ended up with this...

    The skinny fenders that were on the hybrid will go on the 6 speed for my wife.

    So for $136 I could fix them all up and ride 33 km on each????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocivixen View Post
    @ Sixty Fiver - that's a great looking Peugeot. Orange too. Don't think I've seen an orange one before. I'm fond of unique colors like that!
    Orange Peugeots are my favourites and are not uncommon... the UJ10 is a much less common bike and I have only come across two of them here and own one and refitted the other for a customer.
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    During the stormy evening, I was able to get some time into the 'heavyweight contender class'. Frame weight is just under 6 lbs..

    The steel Nitto Olympiad bar with the goopiest tape took two hours for dismantle, clean and reassemble. The original tape must have had a chemical reaction or something while in storage. It was like super glue sticking to my hands, tools and everything else.

    As much as I like the steel thing, there's way too much on this bike - LOL. Dolomiti 27" steel rims, steel bars, seat post, big heavy Universal brake levers and an aweful crankset (more about this disaster later).

    I'll restore the brakes tonight but replace the heavy levers with a Mafac dual brake - single control lever. I do like the center pull Universal cal's.

    The replacement set of wheels I've had will be a huge improvement. Sitting for ten years from a junker, now cleaned and trued 700C tubular - Mavic w/SR Sprint hubs, 32 hole, butted spokes. The Vittoria tubulars are aged but don't look that bad. I just hope they have enough life in them to complete the challenge. The old Campy skewers (non-curved lever) are heavy too but rule in the looks.

    Transmission - I'm retaining the Suntour Cyclone GT rear derailleur but scrapping the front Campagnola. Single lever Campy shifter and only going with the rear as a 6 speed - 13/18 fw short stack. Front bailout chainring will be removed and will run just the 52T large. Light and minimalistic. Not planning for many killer climbs so its good enough for my use.

    The crankset... a mess. First off, POS and I think it weighs more than the rest of the bike. Prior owner had somehow incorrectly forced the cottered pins and not clocked the crank arms. Ridden this way for years it partially sheared the chain side and is now like welded to the bottom bracket spindle. Even with drilling it, I'm unable to get the remaining out and its completely seized. I was lucky enough to get the chain ring side bearing cup and assembly removed the frame, but now have to figure if its salvageable and how to keep within the budget. (I only have $20 balance and that was going for a chain.)

    So what do I do? The bike came with a decent and fairly scarce early leather suede San Marco 312X saddle. I pulled it off and in place using a asshatchet vintage Perjohn. I was planning to keep the San Marco for a freebie Raleigh Twenty project, but now might have to trade or sell off to offset a crank arrangement.... if so lucky. OR, I'll clean and hopefully reassemble the original crank. Even though the pin is a disaster I might have to make the best of it for the challenge. I'm screwed if it bust on the road but can update later.

    Lastly, I don't have any handlebar wrap on hand and with not enough left in the budget, might go sans. But, I do have a single roll of Velox rim tape and an old pair of Velox plugs. Do you think going with rim tape is a bit 'tacky'....lol? With this Bottecchia, I'm determined to keep it in the C&V sense and complete the challenge but its going to be close to the wire.


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    @crank_addict, that Bottechia is really lovely, but .... are you aware that those parts you added from your bin are to be valued at 'fair market value'? You may need to start polishing all those nice steel bits ...
    Clunker or not, it's gotta have gears!

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    ^ Yeah, apart from the bodged cotter pin, I'm not feeling the 'clunk' on that one.

    It's too damn pretty.
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    Thanks for the comp's but you do realize this is the equivalent of an Italian like Schwinn Varsity....LOL. (Nothing against Varsity fans - scooz' me)

    Anyhow, interesting comment about 'market value' - past or present. I disagree with how some define it.
    In addition, who's market and who's wallet?

    Stuff is only worth what one is willing to pay for it at a given time. Even so and in the case of old bikes and what you call special parts, the majority of public still toss it to the curb. Every day. Where and how you shop is your choice. Today with ebay, its very easy to splurge and get some parts but with patience and good sources, its not necessary.

    I sometimes forget about things boxed away. Mostly picked up for pittance to nothing but also too stoopido and question what did I get this for?!. (True, there are special and rare pieces we all secretly desire and sometimes willing to stretch for them, but its more fun in the hunt. After theft and loss of my bikes bikes including the occasions of special parts ripped off while there parked, I'm much more conservative today.)

    'Market value' at a LBS's: I might add, a few LBS have been terrific, helpful and generous. Not many have the time for this old stuff anyways so if you're able to hunt a bit and ask, many are glad to see it go to good use. I've also dropped off parts to one LBS thinking they might have a customer like myself who might need them. One particular shop has been way cool and has freely given me obsolete tires and odd parts. Basically stuff only as I could use them and complete an old bike... not to hoarde or sell. I greatly appreciate them and thats 'market value'. I value that shop whenever I do spend my money there.

    Market value you say? Last month I received another set of vintage wheels from a fellow enthusiast for FREE. No trade, nothing expected in return but just appreciation that I could use them. To him, there's no 'market value' in them and screw fleabay hassles. To me thats the fun and always good kharma. A year ago I gave away an early set of Dura Ace brifters to a young rider. He had a crash and broke one of his levers. In that case, the levers had no value or use to me. I felt it was better someone like him could get back riding without another expense. Of course someone might have paid something for them but I didn't want to sell them. I enjoy riding along with that enthusiast and the levers were worth more as gifting. Thats my opinion of 'market value'.

    Bikes: The now obscure but at one time were mass produced 'run of the mill' bikes are easily found for minimal or next to nothing. In the last few months I've considered three older and interesting bikes all suitable for the clunk challenge. The cheapest is basically a free Raleigh of which I traded for sight unseen.

    There's also a super clean 1960 Huffy Sportsmn thats been sitting in a store for $35. Parts alone on it could sell far more than that but why ruin a survivor? Plus I don't have the luxury of time to do. Point being, nobody wants it.... thats market value. Its too good for me in this fun challenge and I'm only now thinking of it for a friend and swap the bars.

    Market value AND NEW: Funny to think at a Target I could have purchased for under hundred (incl. tax) a brand new Schwinn aluminum framed -compact frame- flat bar with index shifting and a jazzed up 700C wheelset. A $225 retail bike but now with multiple mark downs, clearanced to $145 and with my saved up wad of Target free with every purchase gift cards, I could have been easy rolling. NOT. Why would I even want it? Just for this novelty thread? Furthermore, I could pop the china aero wheels and rubber on it and get what I paid for the entire bike!!

    Lastly, take it for what its worth to you but in my mind the challenge is an excersise in what one could do at a minimal expense and under a $100 for a classic or old bike. Re-salvage someones junk or neglected bike and actually use it. I chose this particular bike off of CL because it fits my perspective of the challenge. I could easily sell some of the parts it came with and make all my initial expense back plus some, but I don't want to. BTW: It came with the San Marco 312x saddle, SR Cyclone GT rear derailleur, the Campy high flange hubs, front der. and misc. Campo parts.

    In reality, this thing would be worth nothing if I were to take in consideration the cost of time. The crank is a sorry situation and it only has to survive the miles. Thereafter, its getting some sort of a better crank. But for now, its coming back to life and with the spirit of the challenge its my entrant. Its all good and happy trails.
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    Was the crank pin like that before, or did you "massage" it to that state? And I wouldn't care if it's the Schwinn Varsity of Italian bikes, I'd ride it, with a big sheep eating grin on my face. Hell, I was smitten at the first glance of the chrome head lugs. The rest is gravy. Lustful gravy.
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    ^^ Both crank pins were mashed in AND the crank arms not clocked 6-12. Nasty. Was able to get the left arm off but the right (chain ring side) was partially sheared and almost seems welded to the bottom bracket. I resorted to drilling it out and hope it shears while I ride it. Because I'm unable to remove that arm, there's no way to remove that side bearing for service. I was lucky to sneak the bearing cup loose and pull the entire assembly from the frame.... not normal procedure. Lots of tedious cleaning and multiple rinse finally broke the ball bearings free. Now greased again and all back together. Leaving for out of town so I won't be able to finish the bike until next week.

    BTW: Same seller has this $50 German made Velo Schauff (includes wheels). Has some early Shimano goodies on it. I don't have time for another project. Here you go: Velo Schauff road bike frame


    Edit: The main problem has primarily been the crank chainring side (RH) but there's more. Upon installing the pedals, threads fully cleaned and fortunately not cross threaded but..... the LH side arm has the bore off a few degree! Unknown make and probably garbage from the factory - Q1 all the way - hehe. So when cranking a full revolution, one could slightly feel the pedal platform having a quirky feel. As soon as the challenge is done, this crank goes to scrap.
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    The MultiTrack was left outside overnight in the backyard, unlocked, and was still there in the morning. After the first 5 mile test ride, I tightened up the handlebars and adjusted the position of the levers and shifters. Everything else works fine on this pub bike. Rode down to the post office and then past the soon to be open Atwater Bier Garden. About 54 miles to go.

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    I've run into a snag!

    I got the Raleigh Olympian frame offered up by R0ckh0und, painted the fork (a previous owner had painted it orange!), and stated gathering parts from the piles of stuff in my cellar. I had to buy 40 spokes. Late in the game I realized the BB was rusted up, and getting the cups off was a major chore. A bench vise eventually got the fixed one off, and a Suntour freewheel puller got the slotted adjustable cup off. With the exception of the 40 spokes and shipping the frame, no money was spent. I even built headlight and taillight from parts on hand already, and a junk dynamo. It's all good.

    The snag? My son has adopted it and I haven't had a chance to ride 100 km on it. How long do I have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhm View Post
    I've run into a snag!
    My son has adopted it and I haven't had a chance to ride 100 km on it. How long do I have?

    Photos tomorrow.
    100 days from 2/12/2014, so I am using 5/22 as my cutoff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
    100 days from 2/12/2014, so I am using 5/22 as my cutoff.
    Ah, thanks for doing the math for me! I think I can do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
    100 days from 2/12/2014, so I am using 5/22 as my cutoff.
    Ah, thanks for doing the math for me! I think I can do this.

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    A little late to the game but I'll give it a shot since their is time left and I have put is some progress in.

    Found the bike laying in trash on the side of the road a little over a week ago. Shouldn't need anymore then $40 to get it rolling and ready to ride as a sleeper bike.


    Like any secondhand bike I get I tear it down to clean, inspect, and apply new grease/oil. Despite the drivetrain being caked in sand everything checked out OK except the shifter cables and the FD shifter being a little gummed up.


    Still up in the stand for new shifter cables but all the serious work is out of the way. Just got to add the cables and tune up the derailers, and of course find a saddle and seatpost so I have something to sit on.
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    Okay, so here's what R0ckh0und sent me:


    Here's the tail light I made. It's a 3/4" copper pipe cap with a red LED and lens in it.


    The headlight is the same thing, but a white LED and a different lens:


    Each LED has + and - solder points. I attach a wire to each. I ground the other end of the + wire of one light, and the - wire from the other, to the frame; and connect the other wires to the dynamo. The result is extremely simple LED lights that flash alternately. And cheap; like $12 in parts.

    The complete bike:

    Unicanitor-ish plastic saddle and 1960 Sturmey Archer AW hub from a dumpster bike, laced to an old Raleigh rim (but I had to buy the spokes). Front wheel, SR Laprade seat post, crappy steel pedals and swaged Sugino crank from another dumpster bike. Nitto technomic? stem from another dumpster bike. Dia-Compe side pull brakes and Shimano levers from, yes, yet another dumpster bike or two.

    The chain is not from a dumpster bike. It's from a garage door opening mechanism ... as ... wait for it... found in the dumpster.
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    Great resourcefulness Rudi. I think that Olympiasn should now be called a Raleigh Cobbler!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post


    Much less than $100.00, before you count the custom built wheels which are worth more than the rest of the bike.

    I could have thrown on some old Chrolux wheels to stay under the limit.

    Dangit.
    Well to be honest I think pretty much everyone cheated on the wheels and tires and your the only one to admit it.

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    I'm avoiding the whole cheating thing by using parts that were lying around disused in my cellar. I admit I must have paid for some of them (such as the tires) at some point, and traded good trade goods for others (I got the handlebar in trade, I think from Noglider; I have no idea what he got in return). I can't put a price on any of it.

    As I see it, you're only cheating if you willfully break the rules. Me, I don't mean to... I'm just ignoring them and trusting the referee(s) will call me out if they see me stepping over the line.

    One way or another, I think I already won: my son is riding a bike to school again.

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    wow - nice rides sixty-fiver and RHM!

    More clunkers spotted on Bloomington / CL: Vintage bikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhm View Post

    One way or another, I think I already won: my son is riding a bike to school again.
    I think you should win for the lights alone (and possibly the re-purposed chain-awesome!). Not surprising your son adopted the bike; I would ride the hell out of it. What is it about these old Raleighs? After years of fruitless attempts to have my daughter take an interest in bikes, she took one look at a beat up old 5 speed Sprite and practically had hearts in her eyes.

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    Thanks!

    I'm pretty pleased with the lights. Yesterday both my kids rode their bikes to school but they had a late night; both were in a dance concert that started well after dinner and it was pretty much bed time before they could head home. My daughter decided to bail on riding home, and called for a ride. I asked her to contact her brother so I could make it a twofer, and then I got in the car. Waiting at the end of the driveway, left turn signal on, I counted three headlights, which I assumed meant there were two cars that had to go by before I could make my turn. One car went by, and the third light turned out to by my son on his clunker. Pretty good, if the light was bright enough for me to think it was a car, huh?

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    No FiveBoro NYC ride for me this year. However, I did a 16 mile ride today to Belle Isle, including my first ride around the island. Some remarkable Art Deco architecture. GM HQ in the background.

    Fifteen mile sustained wind from the NW, with gusts to 27 mph. 22 miles to go and I will be complete on the metric century.

    Last edited by oddjob2; 05-04-14 at 12:21 PM.
    Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. Albert Einstein
    2014 Additions: 1985 Trek 560, 1992 Trek Multitrack 700 (my 2nd), 1994 Trek Carbon 2200, Peugeot PX-10, 1981 Schwinn Voyager, 1989 Bridgestone RB-1

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