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Sixty Fiver 02-16-14 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by oddjob2 (Post 16500337)
That orange SJ exceeds the budget of $100, so not submitting.

But there is no theft test as part of the rules.

I don't know how Lascauxcaveman is going to bring that POS Redline in on budget as it needs everything. Did you miss the part about FMV on parts from your stash?

My first possibility is coming in under $50.

The bike I am looking at won't need a thing from my parts stash...

We have been considering doing a similar thing at the bike co-op with an even lower budget to see just how good it gets when you have just a little to spend.

cs1 02-16-14 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by oddjob2 (Post 16500077)
Why are they a money pit?

current inventory = 3 stumpys + 1 rockhopper + 2 hard rocks + 1 hard rock frame

All except the 1985 SJ Sport (shown as purchased) below were less than $65.

The bikes themselves aren't too bad to purchase as you've found out. But try piecing together a period correct XT bike.
It can get expensive. So why do I continue to buy them? Good question. :)

otg 02-16-14 12:07 PM

I took a few pictures of my entry, picked this up at a yard sale in town for 20 bucks, basically as it sits. It had a flat that I fixed using a used tube I had sitting around. I've done nothing to this bike yet except take it for a short ride last fall. I think I can easily make 100 miles on this thing with nothing more than a bit of chain oil.
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN0788.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN0785.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN0784.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN0787.jpg

dweenk 02-16-14 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16499836)
I see the stakes have been raised but folks should be aware that when you put a Scotsman on a tight budget he will be in his natural element... there should be bonus points awarded for how much beer you can buy with the leftovers from the $100.00 and in my case I think I will be able to afford a good bottle of scotch.

:)

The cheaper the beer or scotch, the more you can buy - right? That goes hand-in-hand with the clunker.

Sixty Fiver 02-16-14 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 16500494)
The cheaper the beer or scotch, the more you can buy - right? That goes hand-in-hand with the clunker.

I live in Canuckistan where there is no such thing as cheap alcohol.

browngw 02-16-14 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16500500)
I live in Canuckistan where there is no such thing as cheap alcohol.

Well I dunno 'bout that 65R. Just yesterday the New Liquor Store up there in Simcoe had "Fireball" Cinnamon Whiskey (750ml) on sale for $19.75 CDN!Keeps my blood thin in the long cold winters.:)

Lascauxcaveman 02-16-14 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oddjob2 (Post 16500337)
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I don't know how Lascauxcaveman is going to bring that POS Redline in on budget as it needs everything. Did you miss the part about FMV on parts from your stash?

I intend to cheat. ;)

But seriously, I think I'll be quoting the actual prices I paid for the parts I'm using, and throw myself on the mercy of the court. I'll be using some stuff that arguably has little or no resale value. Stuff like used shifter cables that came off other projects and was able to shorten and reuse for this one. I've got a set of nice used tires; have no idea what used tires are worth, but they were purchased at a yard sale in a box with a nice basket, two bells a rear touring rack and some clamp-on aero-bars for a grand total of $20. What's a slightly-pitted, no-name crank spindle worth, at bike swap? A buck? Who would want it, when there's another guy one table over who's got a box full of near-perfect ones for $5 each? That Redline frame, on the other hand, sure it looks like a zero-value item, coming out the dumpster covered in dead leaves and moss, but it's straight, and the rust (even in the BB) is actually not too bad. Now that I've got it stripped and cleaned, that Tange MTB Cr-Mo sticker on it and its fairly light weight might fetch $20 from a person who's always wanted to have a triple triangle frame.

Fudge factor, I guess.

Phil_gretz 02-16-14 02:33 PM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364597

1988 World for free, after complete rebuild. $59 in parts into it, inluding the hoods (a luxury item on a flip). Perfectfor this challenge except: 2 sizes too small, and saddle would become a torture device.

dweenk 02-16-14 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 16500727)
I intend to cheat. ;)

But seriously, I think I'll be quoting the actual prices I paid for the parts I'm using, and throw myself on the mercy of the court. I'll be using some stuff that arguably has little or no resale value. Stuff like used shifter cables that came off other projects and was able to shorten and reuse for this one. I've got a set of nice used tires; have no idea what used tires are worth, but they were purchased at a yard sale in a box with a nice basket, two bells a rear touring rack and some clamp-on aero-bars for a grand total of $20. What's a slightly-pitted, no-name crank spindle worth, at bike swap? A buck? Who would want it, when there's another guy one table over who's got a box full of near-perfect ones for $5 each? That Redline frame, on the other hand, sure it looks like a zero-value item, coming out the dumpster covered in dead leaves and moss, but it's straight, and the rust (even in the BB) is actually not too bad. Now that I've got it stripped and cleaned, that Tange MTB Cr-Mo sticker on it and its fairly light weight might fetch $20 from a person who's always wanted to have a triple triangle frame.

Fudge factor, I guess.

I like your strategy. Truth be known, I save old cables. Some are perfectly OK when cut back, and some can be, well, just made to work. The idea after all is to put together a bike that can be ridden for 100 miles. I have a $20 Schwinn World that I may enter.

Narhay 02-16-14 02:58 PM

We have some stuff competition on our hands. Saddle looks good, waterproofing seems tight. That bb has low friction orange red grease...no overhaul needed. That chain actually has shifting properties built in. Quite the gem...some people will throw away anything.

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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 16499827)
Just so you guys know you've got some worthy competition: I think my recent dumpster-sourced MTB is dead center in the spirit of this contest. It's my intention to turn this into a serviceable drop bar tourer.

For your consideration, a 1990 Redline Thirty (no, I've never heard of such a thing either)

(pls note the abstract masterpiece of rusted-in-time chainline. How does this even happen?)
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_2091.jpg

Let's take a quick look inside the bottom bracket, just to make sure everything is in order there, shall we? Very good. I'd say this is up to standard.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_2098.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_2097.jpg

Freewheel frozen stationary on the hub? Check.
Derailleur snaps into two pieces when removal is attempted? Check.
Possible areas to consider upgrading: freewheel, rear derailleur. Maybe the chain, too.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_2093.jpg

Once removed, the crankset feels a bit heavy compared to my better triples I have waiting in my parts bins. But underneath that silver-colored umm.... paint? powdercoat? ...is a functional crank that can be re-used.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_2092.jpg

Green (?) anodized rims? Was this a thing, back in 1990? Anyway, the front rim is true enough to reuse. We'll see about the back rim, if we can get the rusty axle free enough to spin.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_2095.jpg

Significant growths of moss are to be expected in my damp corner of the USA. Otherwise, one would suspect this bike has been coddled, safely tucked away in a woodshed, carport or hen house all these years
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_2094.jpg

I've started cleaning it up tonight. Cash outlay so far: $0.00


oddjob2 02-16-14 03:45 PM

Prospective Clunker Entry A
 
Here's the first of several I am considering. Wednesday looks like 40 degrees!:)

Total investment of $50.95

$40.00 Raleigh Sprite (acquired 11/7/2013) - some surface rust on the handlebars, otherwise paint, chrome, decals in A+ condition.

$10.95 for parts
Replaced front tire $8.41, front pads $.80, rear brake cable $1.10, front bearings $.20, (amount included for rear bearings $.44)

Before
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/isujwqg8x03...2009.09.35.jpg

After
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/qj9jnrxy23f...2016.35.17.jpg

non-fixie 02-16-14 04:33 PM

I'm in. I have quite a few bikes in the attic already that would fit the bill: bought for €20-40 and would need little more than a lube and an inner tube or so to be able to ride. But that would not be much of a challenge and why waste an opportunity to get me another bike I don't need? So I trawled the classifieds and found this:

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-EBGGADYB.jpg


The seller accepted my €40 offer, so I picked it up this afternoon. The good news is that it's my size and pretty much complete. The bad news is that it has lived outside for quite some time. There's a lot of surface rust and everything is pretty much stuck.
I may end up having to ride 100k with the saddle and stem in their current positions ...

Anyway, the expenditure so far is $54.83.

jish1969 02-16-14 06:50 PM

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Looks like the previous O upgraded the rear D to a Shimano STX IG compatible, which came into existence sometime in the mid-nineties. Does anyone know if this is index compatible? If it is and I can find an old rapidfire shifter at the co-op I may pull the trigger.

P.S. That Redline is gonna look sweet, please post some progress photos...
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364616

oddjob2 02-16-14 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jish1969 (Post 16501257)
Looks like the previous O upgraded the rear D to a Shimano STX IG compatible, which came into existence sometime in the mid-nineties. Does anyone know if this is index compatible? If it is and I can find an old rapidfire shifter at the co-op I may pull the trigger.

Yes, STX is indexed.

jish1969 02-16-14 07:29 PM

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Yes, STX is indexed.
Well then, with 17 bucks and some change remaining this could get interesting for me...

Savagewolf 02-16-14 08:05 PM

If I were in charge of this event (I'm not) and if I were responsible for picking the early winners (I'm not) and if I was the one making the rules (I'm not) I would give Lascausxcaveman the win by far for what he's starting off with. It's going to be interesting to see the final result, and I hope more people enter junk like this one.

Bholio 02-17-14 12:24 PM

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Since the rule is that the bike needs to be purchased after 2/14, this is my only entry. Got it Yesterday for $30(USD) on Craigslist. Missing rear tube & tires seem to be from 1970s. Quick bench testing shows that brakes and gears seem to work. Chain flexible, rims straight. Pretty sure it would ride with a new tube in back.

Weirdly customized by prior owners with turkey levers & universal side-pulls. Also barcons and suntour FD. Avocet soft seat. My first proper road bike since my last Peugeot was stolen 30 years ago. This one appears to be a higher-end model than my 1980s one was.

I plan to tear down, clean, oil, replace tires, check/replace cables and use as is. No plans to do the leave-it-unlocked test.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364709http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364710http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364711

Bikes and Jeeps 02-17-14 12:38 PM

That's a px-10.
You did pretty good for $30.

Daveyates 02-17-14 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bholio (Post 16503027)
Since the rule is that the bike needs to be purchased after 2/14, this is my only entry. Got it Yesterday for $30(USD) on Craigslist. Missing rear tube & tires seem to be from 1970s. Quick bench testing shows that brakes and gears seem to work. Chain flexible, rims straight. Pretty sure it would ride with a new tube in back.

Weirdly customized by prior owners with turkey levers & universal side-pulls. Also barcons and suntour FD. Avocet soft seat. My first proper road bike since my last Peugeot was stolen 30 years ago. This one appears to be a higher-end model than my 1980s one was.

I plan to tear down, clean, oil, replace tires, check/replace cables and use as is. No plans to do the leave-it-unlocked test.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364709http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364710http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364711

Wow excellent!

I should be picking my bike up tomorrow morning if all goes well.
It's 80 euros and so i don't have much money left if it needs anything replacing!

sloar 02-17-14 01:33 PM

i just slapped together a schwinn humpback vagabond. put together with junk parts laying around. i don't think i could ride it 1km let alone 100. purely pos material. the only thing going for it was a conversion bottom bracket for one piece to 3 piece cranks.

non-fixie 02-17-14 02:20 PM

Mrs non-fixie and I were invited to our niece's birthday party yesterday, so I was a little pressed for time when I picked up the Atala. No time for the usual niceties, so I just handed the money to the seller, threw the bike in the back of the car and raced back home. And it shows. :(

After a closer look tonight these are the preliminary findings:

The rear wheel is missing three spokes and two others are broken:

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-CDXSW48S.jpg

The bar stem came out after a little persuasion, but the seat post still won't budge:

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-RYHIXYE7.jpg

The teeth on the big ring have been shaved by the FD that is mounted too low (and there's a bolt missing):

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-GGUJDTZM.jpg

The dropout adjuster screws have gone AWOL, but that has been compensated for by a solid nutted rear axle. PO kept his chain well-oiled:

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZYFVNEN8.jpg

Found a tubing decal:

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-OKHSJJ6K.jpg

I may have been a little hasty in my earlier assessment that the bike was complete ...

Lascauxcaveman 02-17-14 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 16503404)
The teeth on the big ring have been shaved by the FD that is mounted too low (and there's a bolt missing):

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-GGUJDTZM.jpg

Nice! That is some kinda Clunkertown street cred there, my friend. That simply cannot be bought, but must be earned, by the kind of hamfisted, bloodyminded ignorance and don't-give-sh#t attitudes we clunkerphiles come to expect from our POs. Plus, it's on the big ring, so it doesn't really matter. In fact, it probably shifts better, for not having to make such a big jump to get over them big pointy-thing whatchamacallits. Missing bolts means it's lighter, for performance.

Great start!

crank_addict 02-17-14 05:52 PM

Nice. All you need is an aero bar add-on for style points :thumb:

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Originally Posted by oddjob2 (Post 16500888)
Here's the first of several I am considering. Wednesday looks like 40 degrees!:)

Total investment of $50.95

$40.00 Raleigh Sprite (acquired 11/7/2013) - some surface rust on the handlebars, otherwise paint, chrome, decals in A+ condition.

$10.95 for parts
Replaced front tire $8.41, front pads $.80, rear brake cable $1.10, front bearings $.20, (amount included for rear bearings $.44)

Before
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/isujwqg8x03...2009.09.35.jpg

After
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/qj9jnrxy23f...2016.35.17.jpg


vonfilm 02-17-14 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bholio (Post 16503027)
Since the rule is that the bike needs to be purchased after 2/14, this is my only entry. Got it Yesterday for $30(USD) on Craigslist. Missing rear tube & tires seem to be from 1970s. Quick bench testing shows that brakes and gears seem to work. Chain flexible, rims straight. Pretty sure it would ride with a new tube in back.

Weirdly customized by prior owners with turkey levers & universal side-pulls. Also barcons and suntour FD. Avocet soft seat. My first proper road bike since my last Peugeot was stolen 30 years ago. This one appears to be a higher-end model than my 1980s one was.

I plan to tear down, clean, oil, replace tires, check/replace cables and use as is. No plans to do the leave-it-unlocked test.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364709http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364710http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364711

A PX10 for $30.00. Stop the contest. We have a winner.

rhm 02-17-14 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vonfilm (Post 16504211)
A PX10 for $30.00. Stop the contest. We have a winner.

No! If he makes a PX10 into a clunker, he will be banned! If this contest inspired him to save that bike, then it willl have served its purpose admirably already; but he mustn't make it into a clunker, that wouldn't be right at all.


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